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Garfield hasn't had a good fight in a while.

1. He would use the fastest route to end the fight Which is Through his hacks. That's what I'm saying

2. That's Because VS wikis Rules back me up. Lasers aren't Automatically Light speed. As well. Dodging them (and the videos shown) are Relativistic at best. My edits were justified By vs wikis Basic rules on lasers. It didn't need a thread. And the reason I also edited hem was to help the person who made the page as they are someone o talk to on Google hangouts. They knew I was editing it. I even told them and they told me it was fine.

3. Oh yea, the claiming I barely read your comment (BS), claiming I'm trying to debunk what was never right (vs wiki basic rules on lasers)

4. But he does. And my edits are Correct. And ask the Orginal maker of the page. He can back up that he knew of my edits and was fine with them.
 
1. No he wouldn't because that's not how he opens up in-character. Look at most of his fights and he's not yeeting into next week or mind haxing, he's either using his claws or running away to find a vantage point to attack from. Neither of these strategies are hax.

2. This actually got defended on why it wasn't Rela and even then you'd still need to make a CRT, VBW backs you up depending on the distance of the laser but the editing rule goes against VBW's rules, I will quote again: "When making sweeping or significant changes to an established and/or popular character or verse, please create a content revision thread first, so that it may be evaluated by the staff and the community at large to ensure that it falls within our guidelines."

Since the laser feat was defened and would fall under FTL you'd need to make a CRT so we can ensure it falls under the guidelines you're trying to argue. The rules don't back you up whatsoever. Either pay attention to the defense before making the change or do a CRT like you were initially told by several people.

3. That's not a strawman whatsoever. A strawman is me attempting to use an agrument you never used, I made the claim beause you ignored parts of my comment in your refute so I can deduce upon that you barely read my cmment.

4. No it doesn't read 2. Your edits aren't correct as they go against the rules. The original maker, you mean Sixo? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Player_(Sunset_Overdrive)?action=history "(cur | prev) 09:53, April 14, 2019ÔÇÄ Sixo Bullets (wall | contribs)ÔÇÄ . . (12,618 bytes) (+12,618)ÔÇÄ . . (Created page with "400px ==Summary== The Player navigates the open world of Sunset City in 2027. The dystopian world has been overrun by mutants ca...")" The same guy that was defending the FTL feat and outright telling you to make a CRT if you disagree with it?


"Sixo Bullets

Okay uh, Player's page got remade and no doubt about it he's FTL. He dodges lasers casually and last second so no it's not as if he's aim dodging or seeing them coming, he's just being faster than lasers which I've already linked you the page to."

If you're talking about someone else they do not transcend the editing rules so this is irrelevant regardless you was told by several people to make a CRT if you disagree and you opted to make changes based off your own subjective view of the feat. Which greatly harpens editing rules.
 
1. He reacts with different reaction including once kicking someone so hard they flew into next week. Which kick is a common trope for him. He

2. No I don't. I confirmed With the maker of thrbpage himself about the edits which he was fine with. It was his page, and it was fairly new. He wanted my help so I helped him. So no I do not. As I confirmed it with him. And again. He was ok with. I will even bring him into the conversation when he responds to me to back me up

3. Even though I did refute them or said they were simply irrelevant like the difference in combat experience. Or You just simply ignored or tried to refute it back.

4. the orginal one who made the page and it was his page. Also when this thread was made. And no. Not Sixo. I'm talking about who made the page first. Like the one who made it and then this thread popped up based on. And no he isn't FTL. The range he even dodges lasers at doesn't make him FTL. It would be Relativistic at best, and 0 evidence to back up the laser to be light speed.

So no he isn't FTL. And don't drop that on me without actual proof. Cause basic Wiki Rules on Lasers is you can't put him at FTL without proof of lasers speed.
 
1. You can see every other kick he's done doesn't do that. So it's a specific power he does with the kick that he doessn't always do. So again, he doesn't open up with this in-character.

2. Again, the maker of the page does not transcend the editing rules, this is nearing appeal to authority.

3. Except no, that's not even what I went by so I have zero idea why you're trying to shift around your own argument. I was referring to you ignoring the speed portion of my refute again I will state this you treat the profiles stats as objective in the vs thread and if you disagree with it you make a seperate CRT.

4.The maker of the apge does not transcend the editing rules. You've been refuted on this, simply saying "no it doesn't" doesn't refute anything.

Make a CRT then. Shouldn't be diffucult whatsoever but you don't change a page because you personally disagree with it.
 
1. And again. For one, irrelevant do to the speed, for two, he likely will use a hack if not almost immediately to end the fight asfast as possible as being the laziest option. For three. This shouldn't even be argued anymore because this thread needs to be closed for several issues with the page for the player.

2. I had Permission from the Page Maker, to edit his page, as he needed help with it. The page wasn't fully right, and it held flaws, which is why I was there to help it. It was still being fixed up.

3. point 2.

4. Point 2

I didn't need too. I had permission, and he needed help. He can. It isn't I personally disagreed with. It's The Wikis own Rules Say it's wrong Stop acting like it's only my opinion. A page made by the runners of the wiki completely tears apart that argument. It's just how it works.
 
1. You literally repeated yourself and I already pointed out that Garfield does not open up with hax in character and pointed out severral instances. If you can show several instances where he consistently uses time hax that's not 3 seperate instances of the 1000s of instances Garfield's interacted and fought then please do.

2. The. page. maker. does. not. transcend. editing. rules. Several other people edited the page and grammar just fine.

The wiki's own rules do not say it's wrong and what? It's objectively your opinion what even is this argument? Stop using appeal to authority to justify your point. He does not transcend the editing rules. Quote any part of that page that says "You're allowed to edit a page and change speed jusitifcation cause your personally disagree with it" please.
 
1. Its honestly irrelevant that he doesn't use it that much because of the speed gap, he eventually would. Especially since he shows to use it more than once. He is just never put in the situation where he would need to use it. Also Again. Arguing this fight is pointless as this thread can't be used

2. The page, wasn't, done, that's why it needed so many edits. I was reviewing it for them. I was 100 percent justified for changing the page. I had the permission too do and was asked to help with it. Which I did.


This argument is me explaining I was helping someone who Wanted my help for the page as this was their first one. Funny how your using a quote from a page saying it's evidence when i have the same argument for speed. He can't be FTL as the vs wiki quite literally has rules that debunk it. I simply fixed the page for who gave me permission and wanted my help for the page
 
1. I've been over the speed gap several times, you're once again reapeating yourself. He has never used BFR into next week more then once.

2. The several edits before yours showed all the necessary edits were done. You wasn't one hundred percent justified and it goes against editing ruless. Already been over them not transcending editing rules, not doing this again.

Editing rules. Except no wwiki rule debunks that, and it was explained to you why it was FTL which you ignored. That's nice, breaks editing rules I could honestly care less how many times you attempt to use "this person gave me permission" especially since from the way the person made the page I can assume they don't even know about the editing rules.
 
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