Fairy Tail: Natsu Resistance Negation

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I'm surprised Natsu doesn't have this already, but Natsu should get Fire and Heat Resistance Negation

END Form Natsu was able to burn Gray's Ice Devil Slayer Magic, which was previously immune to Natsu's Fire in X791

FDKM Natsu is able to burn Madmole, who has Heat Resistance

Natsu uses Ignia's Power, which can burn water, which was immune to Natsu's Fire

Dragon Force Natsu is able to burn Aldoron and his Wood Dragon Slayer Magic, despite him saying that it was immune to Fire

All in all, he should just have this ability

 

[Zackra1799]

Currently leaning towards agreement, however some of the links are broken.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Currently leaning towards agreement, however some of the links are broken.

Only one was for me, I fixed it tho

 

[Zackra1799]

Only one was for me, I fixed it tho

The one that isn't working now is the 2nd scan. The others work fine for me now.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

The one that isn't working now is the 2nd scan. The others work fine for me now.

Fixed

 

[Zencha9]

Pretty obvious i agree

 

[Loyd]

i agree

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

i think we need to remove the damaging the book of END weakness in his other keys since the book of END was gone along with zeref btw i agree to this

 

[LordGinSama]

Most of these examples are off Natsu's heat surpassing the resistance of others, not outright negation such as Madmole

And none of the above characters have immunities, just varying resistance which Natsu can overpower with temperature.


Also the Merc one isn't a feat for his resistance, Fire Magic in FT has an inherent weakness to water magic and Merc has a lot higher AP than Base Natsu.


Disagree with the addition.



Resistance Negation is the ability to remove an opponent's ability to resist certain effects, allowing the user to then affect them with those abilities. In extreme cases, this ability can even override apparent immunity. Simply overwhelming with hax stronger than what they can resist normally doesn't qualify.


overwhelming a resistance via stronger abilities than they resist doesn't qualify, Natsu isn't removing their resistance just overpowering them via higher temperature.

 

[Delta333]

Neutral but leaning towards disagreement,from what I see Natsu’s fire can overpower/bypass normal heat resistance instead of actually removing resistance(like fire at 1,000,000 degrees Celcius can overpower heat resistance that can protect from 100,000 degrees Celcius instead of negating resistance)

Also none of scan above is immunity

 

[Zackra1799]

Most of these examples are off Natsu's heat surpassing the resistance of others, not outright negation such as Madmole

And none of the above characters have immunities, just varying resistance which Natsu can overpower with temperature.


Also the Merc one isn't a feat for his resistance, Fire Magic in FT has an inherent weakness to water magic and Merc has a lot higher AP than Base Natsu.


Disagree with the addition.

I agree with some of this, especially with the Merc and Madmole stuff.

However, Aldoron's statement about his leaves not being able to be burned is legitimate as he made a blanket resistance statement despite knowing who Igneel and Ignia both are and their flames. Natsu even confirms just that High temperatures aren't enough to burn Aldoron's attacks, but is able to do so anyways in DF.

My proposal is that only DF 100 years Quest Natsu should receive this addition

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Most of these examples are off Natsu's heat surpassing the resistance of others, not outright negation such as Madmole

And none of the above characters have immunities, just varying resistance which Natsu can overpower with temperature.


Also the Merc one isn't a feat for his resistance, Fire Magic in FT has an inherent weakness to water magic and Merc has a lot higher AP than Base Natsu.


Disagree with the addition.



Resistance Negation is the ability to remove an opponent's ability to resist certain effects, allowing the user to then affect them with those abilities. In extreme cases, this ability can even override apparent immunity. Simply overwhelming with hax stronger than what they can resist normally doesn't qualify.


overwhelming a resistance via stronger abilities than they resist doesn't qualify, Natsu isn't removing their resistance just overpowering them via higher temperature.

Hmmm, that actually makes sense

Guess it wouldn’t be Resistance Negation then

 

[LordGinSama]

And he isn't resistant to flames on the level of Ignia or Natsu's upper end feats, Aldoron was getting burnt as Natsu entered his DF and he even outright states "I just gotta turn the temperature up." meaning he overpowers the resistance via temperature. Also Aldoron shat his pants upon realizing that Natsu's flames were the same as Ignia's, so he clearly isn't resistant to Ignia's flames or Natsu's upper end temperatures.



Natsu is the same dude who can burn time and shit with his upper end fire, Aldoron's resistance obviously isn't going to compare to something like that. At best it scales above Natsu's sand vape feat, which is far from Natsu's highest showing.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

"Simply overwhelming with hax stronger than what they can resist normally doesn't qualify."

Natsu overpowering a resistance wouldn't be a negation.

 

[Zackra1799]

And he isn't resistant to flames on the level of Ignia or Natsu's upper end feats, Aldoron was getting burnt as Natsu entered his DF and he even outright states "I just gotta turn the temperature up." meaning he overpowers the resistance via temperature. Also Aldoron shat his pants upon realizing that Natsu's flames were the same as Ignia's, so he clearly isn't resistant to Ignia's flames or Natsu's upper end temperatures.

That statement itself is weird as Natsu immediately contradicts himself next sentence by saying "But there are some things you can't burn with high temperatures", perhaps it has something to do with a translation issue, idrk?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Regardless, I think LordGinSama have proven that this wouldn’t be Resistance Negation, I will close this CRT unless anyone else has anything to say