Fairy Tail: Erza and Ikaruga CRT

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Ok, so Ikaruga should scale to 2x Base Erza for the following reasons

The Flame Empress Armor reduces fire attacks damage by 50% and makes it so that they only deal half the amount of power, Ikaruga uses a fire attack against the Flame Empress Armor and completely shatters it, this means that Ikaruga's AP scales to 2x Base Erza

This would make Ikaruga "At least Low 7-B+ (4.8 Megatons)"

This would also scale to Strongest Armors Erza, Jura, and Azuma

Also Erza should receive Limited Spatial Manipulation or Resistance to Spatial Manipulation for being able to block and clash with Ikagura's swords which could cut through pocket dimensions

 

[Zackra1799]

Disagree, Ikaruga's attacks ignore Durability so reducing the power of the attack doesn't really matter.

 

[LightReinh12345]

Oh many people forgot about Ikarus sadly she was one shots erza's all strong armours with her mugetsu style

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Disagree, Ikaruga's attacks ignore Durability so reducing the power of the attack doesn't really matter.

I see that on her profile, but is it really just Durability Negation?

 

[Zackra1799]

I see that on her profile, but is it really just Durability Negation?

Erza states that the ability to cut space is based on Ikaruga's sword itself, meaning she can't just choose not to dura neg.

 

[Zackra1799]

If anything Erza should get a limited Resistance to Spatial manip as her armors and weapons can protect Erza from said slashes despite breaking, and in Alvarez she directly clashes with ikaruga without her swords breaking

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

If anything Erza should get a limited Resistance to Spatial manip as her armors and weapons can protect Erza from said slashes despite breaking, and in Alvarez she directly clashes with ikaruga without her swords breaking

I could agree to that

 

[senseikeleon]

I’m fine with Zackra’s proposal as well

 

[LordGinSama]

Erza states that the ability to cut space is based on Ikaruga's sword itself, meaning she can't just choose not to dura neg.

I don't see any mention of her cutting space there.

 

[Zackra1799]

I don't see any mention of her cutting space there.

That panel was just in reference to her sword being the reason for her spatial cutting and not her magic, her actual spatial cutting happens the next page.

 

[LordGinSama]

Pretty sure there's a better scan for her spatial manipulation literally 2 pages afterwards that's a lot more cut clear.

 

[senseikeleon]

Sho mentions the sword cutting through space here https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Fairy-Tail/0090-017.png

and here https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Fairy-Tail/0090-019.png

 

[LordGinSama]

this seems better than the pocket slashing statement. "Her sword is able to cut through altered space, Erza stated that her sword puts stress on space."

 

[senseikeleon]

Bump

 

[senseikeleon]

Bump

 

[senseikeleon]

Bump

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I agree with some kind of Limited Spatial Manipulation or Resistance to Spatial Manipulation

 

[senseikeleon]

That’s fine with me as well but don’t we need to make a new thread or can that be settled here?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Retitle or Repurpose the OP I guess?
Unless this is still an Stat Upgrade but with a Resistance/Ability Addition?

 

[senseikeleon]

I’m pretty sure the stat upgrade has been rejected but I’m not 100% sure

 

[CloverDragon03]

The stat upgrade's been rejected, but I think limited Spatial Manipulation for Ikaruga and limited resistance to Spatial Manipulation for Erza should be fine.

 

[Zencha9]

Yeah im fine with limited spatial manip for ikaruga and Erza getting resistance to it

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Personally I think the stat upgrade should still be a thing as she still oneshot FEA with fire.

That being said, should this not apply to Laxus in 100YQ since he one shot LEA even after Kyria cut his power so his base is at least x2 Clear Heart Erza who Kyria was stronger than.

 

[senseikeleon]

I’m not positive but I’m pretty sure Kyria cutting Laxus’s power didn’t actually work

and as far as I recall LEA doesn’t have a statement of lighting doing 50% less damage like FEA does for fire

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Occam’s razor says that an armor with the same name and same purpose but geared towards another element does the same thing as the other. Sea Empress is even stated to completely nullify Juvia’s water magic so the two armors with similar names and abilities with only an element change halve their respective element or neg it entirely.

 

[senseikeleon]

Occam’s razor says that an armor with the same name and same purpose but geared towards another element does the same thing as the other. Sea Empress is even stated to completely nullify Juvia’s water magic so the two armors with similar names and abilities with only an element change halve their respective element or neg it entirely.

Well that makes sense so I could see your point about Laxus

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Personally I think the stat upgrade should still be a thing as she still oneshot FEA with fire.

That being said, should this not apply to Laxus in 100YQ since he one shot LEA even after Kyria cut his power so his base is at least x2 Clear Heart Erza who Kyria was stronger than.

It would apply to Laxus, but we already scale Base Laxus to an AP Value 4x above Base Erza

So that’s already in effect

 

[CloverDragon03]

Basically what Mitch said, and that gap is consistent with him not just damaging her, but easily beating her back when she had that resistance.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This seems reasonable to me.

 

[senseikeleon]

So with everyone agreeing with limited spatial manip for ikaruga and Erza getting resistance to it

is it fine to apply(not me tho idk how to)

 

[CloverDragon03]

I think it's been unanimously agreed on so it should be fine, though Mitch should preferably give a final comment on it.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Limited Spatial Manipulation and the Resistance thereof to the respective profiles seem fine to me.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I have added the resistance and ability

I will now close this