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I mean the flames can cover his whole body.
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If it enters him.
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Will it enter him if he's covered by power null flames?
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Why should this power null affect Kakine? They are 2 completely different powers, and verse equalization makes Ogami a magic side character, unless he has a IB-like mechanism, he isn't nulling DM.
Also, Normal Kakine has an area around his body that he can control all phenomenons that happen inside that with his DM, if i understood that correctly, he should be able to create DM at any place inside this Area (i.e inside Ogami)
Also, Normal Kakine has an area around his body that he can control all phenomenons that happen inside that with his DM, if i understood that correctly, he should be able to create DM at any place inside this Area (i.e inside Ogami)
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He burns anything supernatural why would it not null DM?XDragnoir said:
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I mean, what do espers do? What makes them different from normal power users?
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Yeah so? That is just the medium. Ogami's verse has time and space hax.XDragnoir said:
Spatial Manipulation, Absorption, Electricity Manipulation, Hellfire Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Light Manipulation, Magnetism Manipulation, Acid Manipulation, Animated Shadow, Shadow Manipulation, Sound Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Acupuncture, Pressure Points, Air Manipulation
These are all the shown powers in the verse. The abilities being life dependant is a bit weird cus even people who have their life literally stolen from them (lack life) can use their powers and can have them nulled.
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Being able to null time and space hax only means that he can null... time and space hax, and since everything he does is equalized to index magic (because the mechanism is close enough), he can't null something which works in a completely different way, and if he can, there is still DM across the whole city.
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Again, you just said they can reality warp (which time and space hax do fall in the category). But not what kind of mechanism makes them so unique.
@Malox
He can create flames anywhere if he wishes to do so. Even several meters around his body.
Or fusing with his flames is also a thing.
@Malox
He can create flames anywhere if he wishes to do so. Even several meters around his body.
Or fusing with his flames is also a thing.
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I immagine It i saw the profile, but what he does normally an how long can he kept it up ?
Cause 1 if there is a significant gap between him and the barrier kekine can just create DM in that gap, 2 if he is on the ground the barrier obvs is not defending him from that so any attacks from bellow would pass 3 kakine stamina is infinite he can just wait till he puts the barrier down
Cause 1 if there is a significant gap between him and the barrier kekine can just create DM in that gap, 2 if he is on the ground the barrier obvs is not defending him from that so any attacks from bellow would pass 3 kakine stamina is infinite he can just wait till he puts the barrier down
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No he didn't.Malox1696 said:
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No, i never mentioned he'd power null those stuff. But again, he will not null prob, law and concept hax. Doesn't mean that he can't power null absorption from a dude who also has law hax in his arsenal.XDragnoir said:
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There is no concept hax here, and Kakine is far from using those or even coming close to it
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1. The flames can touch his body just fine, they don't affect him.Malox1696 said:
2. It's not a barrier, it's just him being covered in flames then again, what attacks?
3. I mean he knows about DM so he will just do some nuke shit even under ground just fine.
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Still no concept manipXDragnoir said:
And the probability is non-combat applicable
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Toaru Majutsu no Index New Testament 6 Chapter 7 Part 4Scrlk666777 said:
"Do you really not remember? You really are a heartless bastard. You took so very many lives yet you don't even bother to remember them?"
Something like a small thorn stabbed into Accelerator's mind.
But it was too late.
Kakine Teitoku who controlled Academy City's #2 Level 5 power of Dark Matter took his next action.
"Ha ha! This was one of those stages! This was one of the stages for those repeated experiments where you massacred human clones while going on about being the strongest or invincible or whatever!!"
"You don't mean…!!" shouted Accelerator as he recalled that Kakine Teitoku had the power to create anything that was lacking.
But the change had already begun.
Some white substance that could not be called a liquid or a solid suddenly spread out in every direction from where Kakine Teitoku stood. The substance's surface undulated, rose up, and took on new form.
Accelerator knew that form very well.
The form was modeled off of the clones who were themselves modeled off of a certain girl.
The Sisters.
The people Accelerator had once killed during those cruel experiments. They symbolized his sins.
He could tell his vision was growing unsteady. He could not stop it.
Several girls with the exact same face tilted their heads in puzzlement, stared at their hands, moved their eyes that held little emotion, and otherwise checked on their situation.
And their lips moved.
They moved.
"Misaka has encountered the food known as ramen. The best type is tonkotsu with thin noodles, analyzes Misaka."
"No, no. Shio ramen with soft noodles is the true delicacy. Does Misaka have to kick your ass? asks Misaka as she grabs your collar."
"Don't you dare confuse shio ramen with shio butter ramen, says Misaka as she joins the fray to prove which is the best."
It was so out of place.
The way those expressionless girls lightly hit at each other while inadvertently revealing their midriffs and flipping up their skirts wore horribly at Accelerator's nerves.
They were not just dolls.
They breathed, had a pulse, and had the warmth of life just like any other person.
And he had…
He had…
"Oh, it isn't like these are actually them."
The innocent scuffle suddenly ended as if some switch had been thrown.
Their heads turned and the emotionless camera lenses of their eyes stared directly at Accelerator.
Something huge had forcibly interfered to make them ignore their individual beliefs.
It was as if…
As if some kind of experiment had begun.
"Not even I can fix someone that has completely died. Nor can I make something completely identical to them," said Kakine Teitoku with a grin. It was the type of grin that would never have appeared on his face had he obtained what he truly needed. "This is why I chose this location. I suppose you could call it 'residual thought'. At any rate, I have taken in all the information remaining in these areas and given them shape. There are plenty of ways to read thoughts, but for me it's like a record or a CD. I run Dark Matter across the tiny ups and downs on the surfaces of materials to obtain the information. The event that once happened here left its mark in ways too tiny for the eye to see. The record of those vibrations allows me to replay their final moments."
They were nothing but imitations.
yes he did , here clones without powers of the sister, and later he create a new esper with power in nt 8 for othinus spears
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I didn't say he can't create clones, learn to read. I said he can't create clones with powers, that is not something he has been shown to do, not even in NT8. In NT8 it's Othinus that lends the "Holistic" Esper power not Kakine, he just creates it but he can't give it power. Try using things Kakine can actually do and not what he cannot do. And actually learn to read so you don't waste putting a bunch of useless text on here that means absolutely nothing.
He can creates clones but he can't create a perfect replica of someone and their powers, that is out of Kakine's reach.
He can creates clones but he can't create a perfect replica of someone and their powers, that is out of Kakine's reach.
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mmmhhh what ? no it's kekine that creates it, on order of othinus and bersi instructionsScrlk666777 said:
"Gh…gbh!? Gagugh!!"
"I see everything is on schedule."
"This is the scientific material needed to fill the gap magic left in the construction of the lance. Any pure specimen tough enough to withstand the development into a holistic esper can be used, so Fräulein Kreutune specifically is not needed. We do not need any combat ability from the device that produces the material."
The eyepatch-wearing girl and the gloomy man exchanged a few short words.
Dark Matter that resembled a carpet or flower petals spread out in the eight directions around a beautiful white girl. All of it, including the girl standing in the center, was a single system. Gungnir could not be completely constructed even with the use of every kind of magic. This was the result of reaching into the realm of science to forcibly fill that technical gap.
At its essence, it was a simple device.
It had a human form but no mind. It could not really be called a living being. There was no fire in the furnace. As soon as their objective was achieved, this hollow doll would be destroyed and disappear.
"My role is complete," said a gloomy man.
He went by two names: Bersi and Kihara Kagun.
He had just finished stabbing the final of countless cables into the eight giant flower petals stretching from the girl's feet.
"This holistic esper and everything else are Marian Slingeneyer's territory. I see nothing more I must do. Give me my next instruction."
othinus is the whole ritual acted only once to stop the holistic esper from dying before the ritual is complete that's it
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@Malox
Once again you have proven nothing. All this tells us was that he created a girl, nothing more. It doesn't say he gave her any powers, and the reason for this is because he couldn't. Now why don't you actually try and provide actual proof instead of this BS.
Once again you have proven nothing. All this tells us was that he created a girl, nothing more. It doesn't say he gave her any powers, and the reason for this is because he couldn't. Now why don't you actually try and provide actual proof instead of this BS.
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You really do need to learn to read. Where did I say he didn't do it at all? I said that he can't give clones powers which you have yet to proof otherwise. All you've proven is what we already know, is that Kakine can create clones but can't give them actual powers, as I said that's out of Kakine's reach.
No it's you who likes to over-hype kakine and give him abilities that he does not process. I mean you even tried to give him magic at one point.
Kakine has already got a lot of good powers that will work against Ogami, there is no need for you to make stuff up to suit your agenda.
No it's you who likes to over-hype kakine and give him abilities that he does not process. I mean you even tried to give him magic at one point.
Kakine has already got a lot of good powers that will work against Ogami, there is no need for you to make stuff up to suit your agenda.
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It doesn't matter what power Ogami has because Kakine won't be able to replicate it regardless when creating a clone.
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Why?
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Yes, if possible.
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He knows basic things about DM (powers, nature), sending DM underground isn't included in what he knows because it isn't a DM's trait to be underground, it is something Kakine can do, and Ogami would need to figure it by himself, but also how much he would need to nuke (i don't know how deep underground a country's territory extends) and when all the particles would be destroyed.Firephoenixearl said:
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@XDragnoir
What? I don't dislike Malox, I don't know what gave you that idea.
Doesn't Ogami have type 4 immortaility? Wouldn't that mean both Kakine and Ogami can outlive each other?
What? I don't dislike Malox, I don't know what gave you that idea.
Doesn't Ogami have type 4 immortaility? Wouldn't that mean both Kakine and Ogami can outlive each other?
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