Eustass Kid vs Yamato: Homicidal Captain battles the Oni Princess

[Kachon123]

Location: Punk Records
In-Character
Kid has access to as much metal as he did at his peak during the Onigashima Raid

Kid: 5 (@Kachon123, @That_moron, @ThanatosX, @Harith0cell, @Eminiteable )
Yamato: 8 (@TheMonkeMan, @SnookB, @Eseseso, @Veloxt1r0kore, @RoronoaxRobin, @Darkvie123, @Popted2, @Fireld )

 

[DaMonkeMan]

You crazy son of a female dog. You did it.
Anyway Yamato wins :troll:

 

[Kachon123]

Anyway Yamato wins

Reasoning?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Her AP and LS are kind of nutty. Also, can't she kind of speed blitz him?

 

[Kachon123]

Her AP and LS are kind of nutty

Higher than Kid's?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Higher than Kid's?

Arguably yes.
I mean his mostly stems from his DF while Yamato is mostly raw strength and Haki.
Also she resists his magnetism by having stronger Haki. Not really a huge wincon but it's worth noting.

 

[That_moron2]

Her AP and LS are kind of nutty. Also, can't she kind of speed blitz him?

Kidd: Tanks punch from Big Mom, hurts Big Mom severely. Restrains empowered Big Mom.
Yamato: Tanks hits from weakened Kaidou with enhanced defense and still gets hurt. Pushes back Kaidou.
Also no Yamato cannot speed blitz Kidd. He was able to react to Kaidou and Big Mom's attacks the whole rooftop fight. Yamato will need Thunder Bagua to blitz and it's not putting Kidd down. He can also steal Takeru.

 

[That_moron2]

Also she resists his magnetism by having stronger Haki. Not really a huge wincon but it's worth noting.

Big Mom has probably equal Haki and she couldn't really resist it.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Kidd: Tanks punch from Big Mom, hurts Big Mom severely. Restrains empowered Big Mom.
Yamato: Tanks hits from weakened Kaidou with enhanced defense and still gets hurt. Pushes back Kaidou.
Also no Yamato cannot speed blitz Kidd. He was able to react to Kaidou and Big Mom's attacks the whole rooftop fight.

I wasn't talking about Durability but yeah good point, both have good durability. Also wdym Kaidou was "weakened"?

He was able to react to Kaidou and Big Mom's attacks the whole rooftop fight. Yamato will need Thunder Bagua to blitz and it's not putting Kidd down. He can also steal Takeru.

Big Mom has probably equal Haki and she couldn't really resist it.

Big Mom wasn't outputting Haki to stop them IIRC. But, BTW, did you see him pulling Napoleon from her?
If not then Yamato can just output conq to stop him from stealing her Kanabo.

 

[Kachon123]

did you see him pulling Napoleon from her?

He stuck Napoleon to her.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

He stuck Napoleon to her.

When? Also I still think outputting conq stops him from stealing her Kanabo.

 

[Kachon123]

When?

Last page of chapter 1030:

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Last page of chapter 1030:

Eh. Like I said, she wasn't visibly outputting Haki in that fight, so it makes sense.

 

[That_moron2]

Eh. Like I said, she wasn't visibly outputting Haki in that fight, so it makes sense.

Do you think she wouldn't have been? She powers herself up, and he still traps her. She was serious during this fight.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Do you think she wouldn't have been? She powers herself up, and he still traps her. She was serious during this fight.

Riight. Which is why she didn't use Advanced Armament, Future Sight, or ACoC?

 

[That_moron2]

Riight. Which is why she didn't use Advanced Armament, Future Sight, or ACoC?

Which is why she used a year of her life.

 

[Darkvie123]

Riight. Which is why she didn't use Advanced Armament, Future Sight, or ACoC?

BM doesn’t have Advanced Armament nor Future Sight

 

[DaMonkeMan]

BM doesn’t have Advanced Armament nor Future Sight

Did you read her "fight" with Page One?

 

[Kachon123]

Hybrid Kaido + ACoC >= Hybrid Yamato + ACoC > Hybrid Kaido

Bigger Mom ~ Awakening Kid > 3 Homies Big Mom ~ Hybrid Kaido > Base Kid >= Base Big Mom

 

[Kachon123]

Kid has vastly superior AP: Most damage Yamato could do when given a head on hit to Hybrid Kaido vs Damage Kid could do with awakening to Bigger Mom who is stronger than Hybrid Kaido, with her even feeling the need to dodge

 

[Kachon123]

There's also the fact that Kid literally tanked a head on combined attack from 3 Homies Bigger Mom who is > Regular Bigger Mom who is > 3 Homies Big Mom who is ~ Hybrid Kaido. The same Hybrid Kaido that Yamato struggled to damage.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Don't know who has higher AP or Durability but they seem pretty relative.

There's also the fact that Kid literally tanked a head on combined attack from 3 Homies Bigger Mom who is > Regular Bigger Mom who is > 3 Homies Big Mom who is ~ Hybrid Kaido. The same Hybrid Kaido that Yamato struggled to damage.

That's heat, that seems to contribute to his heat resistance but not much else.

 

[Kachon123]

That's heat, that seems to contribute to his heat resistance but not much else.

So you're saying that the attack was all heat and no AP?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I mean the Homies are literally just balls of various Elements like Lightning and Fire.

 

[Kachon123]

I mean the Homies are literally just balls of various Elements like Lightning and Fire.

So then why does Killer's durability scale to Big Mom's due to him tanking Indra, despite it "just being lightning"?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

So then why does Killer's durability scale to Big Mom's due to him tanking Indra, despite it "just being lightning"?

I didn't write the profiles lol.
And it's probably because he might have took other attacks from Big Mom and Kaidou before?

 

[That_moron2]

I didn't write the profiles lol.

Go make a crt about it lmao. It's on the profiles.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Go make a crt about it lmao. It's on the profiles.

Nah it won't change the fact that he has other feats that validate his 6-A Durability.

 

[That_moron2]

he has other feats that validate his 6-A Durability.

I.E eating punch from Big Mom. I.E higher than Yamato

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I.E eating punch from Big Mom. I.E higher than Yamato

A regular punch from BM << Hybrid Kaidou's attacks that Yamato clashed with and took.

 

[That_moron2]

A regular punch from BM << Hybrid Kaidou's attacks that Yamato clashed with and took.

He still ate Fullgora, and probably several close combat attacks, after she powered up.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Collection of Yamato's feats and this Reddit post adds some that they missed:

 

[That_moron2]

Reminder of how Kidd and Law vs Big Mom went:

https://****************.com/chapters/380/one-piece-chapter-1038?2022-12-041654

https://****************.com/chapters/391/one-piece-chapter-1039?2022-12-047869

Proof Big Mom was serious:

 

[Kachon123]

Yeah, I'm voting Kid.

He has a higher scaling chain, busted endurance, can easily trap her via superior LS and df awakening.

Assign + Corna Dio and/or Damned Punk may kill Yamato as she has no way to get out.

 

[That_moron2]

Also going with Kidd.

 

[ThanatosX]

AP and Durability wise, I believe Kid have the advantage. He was able to take multiple hits and damage a Big Mom that powered herself up by giving up a year of her life, and as such she was stronger than the fight on the roof. Meanwhile, Yamato fought against a weakened Kaido, which before fighting her had to go throught all the Nine Red Scabbards, the five members of the Worst Generation which targeted mainly him and another fight against Luffy. So between the two I have to give it to Kid in that department.
However, the deciding factor for me is Kid's powers. His magnetic abilities will give a lot of problems to Yamato, especially considering she fight with a metal object. On top of this, if the situation goes really wrong for him he can just use his Awakening, pin her down and use a Damned Punk to finish her off.
Overall, I vote for Kid.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

AP and Durability wise, I believe Kid have the advantage. He was able to take multiple hits and damage a Big Mom that powered herself up by giving up a year of her life, and as such she was stronger than the fight on the roof. Meanwhile, Yamato fought against a weakened Kaido, which before fighting her had to go throught all the Nine Red Scabbards, the five members of the Worst Generation which targeted mainly him and another fight against Luffy. So between the two I have to give it to Kid in that department.
However, the deciding factor for me is Kid's powers. His magnetic abilities will give a lot of problems to Yamato, especially considering she fight with a metal object. On top of this, if the situation goes really wrong for him he can just use his Awakening, pin her down and use a Damned Punk to finish her off.
Overall, I vote for Kid.

None of that weakened Kaidou. In fact, after that, he was still boxing with Luffy and kept going for tens of minutes.
Kaidou even said he wasn't going to go easy on her.
Despite this, she could slam him and bypass his defense. She isn't weak. But, I suppose Kidd isn't weak either. Dude is kind of tanky and his metal structures aren't a laughing matter. HOWEVER, he did only hit Big Mom after she got her bones and organs broken/popped by Law, so I'm not sure he'd be great at hitting someone who's actually on guard and focused on him.
And it seems that Thunder Bagua would blitz him, though I may be wrong.
His Awakening is busted, I agree with that, however he wouldn't be able to pin her down if she uses Haki to resist the effects of his DF.
Plus Yamato can freeze him and use Narikabura to possibly pierce him or his structures a bit. She also took a beam from Kaidou, and though it slammed her into rocks, she was relatively fine after and could keep boxing with him.
I'm not sure who wins this, but I guess I'll vote Yamato for now until my points are disproven.

 

[Kachon123]

however he wouldn't be able to pin her down if she uses Haki to resist the effects of his DF

By the time she gets pinned down, it would already be too late. Big Mom despite using ACoC defensively still couldn't get free from Damned Punk's power and spamming capability.

Big Mom ACoC ~ Kaido ACoC
3 Homie Big Mom ~ Hybrid Kaido
Bigger Mom > 3 Homie Big Mom

Bigger Mom + ACoC > Hybrid Kaido + ACoC >= Hybrid Yamato + ACoC

Big Mom couldn't get free from Damned Punk


Let's also not ignore the fact that:

Kid Durability > Bigger Mom + 3 Homies Combination > Hybrid Kaido + ACoC > Hybrid Yamato + ACoC

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Reminder of how Kidd and Law vs Big Mom went:

https://****************.com/chapters/380/one-piece-chapter-1038?2022-12-041654

https://****************.com/chapters/391/one-piece-chapter-1039?2022-12-047869

Proof Big Mom was serious:

The weird part is that, despite them saying she went all out, she didn't use Advanced Armament or CoC.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

By the time she gets pinned down, it would already be too late. Big Mom despite using ACoC defensively still couldn't get free from Damned Punk's power and spamming capability.

Big Mom ACoC ~ Kaido ACoC
3 Homie Big Mom ~ Hybrid Kaido
Bigger Mom > 3 Homie Big Mom

Bigger Mom + ACoC > Hybrid Kaido + ACoC >= Hybrid Yamato + ACoC

Big Mom couldn't get free from Damned Punk


Let's also not ignore the fact that:

Kid Durability > Bigger Mom + 3 Homies Combination > Hybrid Kaido + ACoC > Hybrid Yamato + ACoC

Again, Big Mom was distracted. Yamato will have the time to actually react here, and that's the problem for Kidd.
Throughout his fight with BM he kept relying on Law hitting her and then he did a follow up on her right after. Law even pointed that out.