Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Spinoirr]

The training suits Goku and Vegeta use in Super's anime sink into the planet when they take them off, so can we calculate the amount of force is needed for that to find how much they weigh

 

[Ednaxel2]

The training suits Goku and Vegeta use in Super's anime sink into the planet when they take them off, so can we calculate the amount of force is needed for that to find how much they weigh

I reckon, it'll weigh a lot

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Ight I just posted this if anyone is free please drop by and support the argument.

Zamasu regen upgrade proposal.

Hello this crt goal is quite straightforward I wanna upgrade Zamasu regeneration. And I think he qualifies for “high godly; history”. High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after the erasure of body, mind, soul, and at least one other fundamental aspect of a character's existence. Such an aspect...

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Looks like you guys took the L.

 

[Spinoirr]

The training suits Goku and Vegeta use in Super's anime sink into the planet when they take them off, so can we calculate the amount of force is needed for that to find how much they weigh

 

[Fezzih_007]

Looks like you guys took the L.

Thanks to Omegabronic, as always doing a good job.

I was going to respond, but he beat me to It.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Lol

 

[Matrixxxx]

What are your views on the discussion opened for dbh time power

 

[Phsccarvalho]

What are your views on the discussion opened for dbh time power

?

 

[Matrixxxx]

?

?

 

[Fezzih_007]

What are your views on the discussion opened for dbh time power

What are you talking about?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

?

What discussion are you talking about?

 

[Matrixxxx]

What discussion are you talking about?

Nep2 and nature type 1 aspect type 2

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Nep2 and nature type 1 aspect type 2

Nep type 2 was rejected. But TP has non-existent NEP type 1 erasure.

 

[Matrixxxx]

Nep type 2 was rejected. But TP has non-existent NEP type 1 erasure.

Non-existent physiology type 2

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Non-existent physiology type 2

It was rejected.

 

[Ednaxel2]

Check it out please

ANOTHER Dragon Ball Super speed upgrade

It's currently accepted in this thread that the resultant fusion scales above the two fusers due to guide books with Base Vegito in the Buu Saga scaling above SSJ3 supporting said statements. We see a few other examples supporting this too, such as: Base Gogeta handling SSJ Broly who an hour...

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[RinneItachi]

The training suits Goku and Vegeta use in Super's anime sink into the planet when they take them off, so can we calculate the amount of force is needed for that to find how much they weigh

I've looked around but seems like there's too many unknown variables.

Honestly I'll never understand why the Pretty Black Hole isn't used. The characters literally ramble on multiple times about it being a black hole or a singularity and even mention specific properties and effects that black holes have. Just because it was a weird shape does not mean it isn't meant to be an actual black hole which it clearly is.

 

[RinneItachi]

Frankly if we can't count the Pretty Black Hole as a valid feat because it's shaped like a heart, we should just invalidate any feats that defy physics. Like why the double standards? These characters can literally move so fast that the speed of light is virtually immobile by comparison without any hazardous effects on the environment, or destroy the universe casually, but a black hole having a weird shape is just too much. Sometimes I just can't with this community lol.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

But muh weighted clothing

 

[Spinoirr]

I've looked around but seems like there's too many unknown variables.

Honestly I'll never understand why the Pretty Black Hole isn't used. The characters literally ramble on multiple times about it being a black hole or a singularity and even mention specific properties and effects that black holes have. Just because it was a weird shape does not mean it isn't meant to be an actual black hole which it clearly is.

Still can Calc the amount of force is being pressed down on them for lifting strength (only for ToP onwards

 

[FrolzeurX]

Does Vegeta heal the deep wound Granola inflicted on him when he transforms into Ultra Ego?
If this is the case this would logically give him a regeneration mid-low after transforming

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Did this guy cook?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Did this guy cook?

I really don't know what he's talking about, but it's definitely an OPM fan who says this, for them the quotes are just hyperbole.

 

[Quantu]

I'll give my summarized thoughts without too much bias!

an universe in dragon ball is not infinite and is size of a normal universe

Reasonable, infinite universe has arguments against it. Not being bigger than our normal observable universe... idk about that chief

theres only 12 universes and those universes doesn't have multiple space-times

No composite cosmologies = reasonable?

BoG goku and beerus clashes doesn't make them universal since their shockwaves coming from clashes got stronger each second meaning their raw powers alone doesn't scale to shockwaves

"Hitting each other with power capable of destroying the universe itself"

shockwaves was only stated to be destroying everything INSIDE the universe not the UNIVERSE ITSELF. Meaning at best it scales to high-uni

No composite cosmologies = no time dimension = no space-times = reasonable? since he's saying they aren't Hypertimeline level essentially

afterlife is not higher dimensional realm, it's just a place above living world in spiritual sense (it ain't a higher dimensional realm)

Reasonable

after BoG no character showed anything close to uni feat why? Because they are weak, they can't do anything to destroy even their universe. (Even moro stated to be galaxy level buster)

Cringe

ki control doesn't make sense for countering the argument above because broly is definitely not good at ki control especially after his full power ssj form. So broly is not universal even when he goes all out

Why didn't Broly just destroy the universe immediately and end the movie? is he stupid??

goku shooked an infinite nothingness (World of Void) scales to nowhere since it was a place without anything and he only SHOOK it. Doesn't mean he can destroy it

WoV never stated to be infinite anyway

Buuhan feat was only from anime + he was trying to chain reaction to destroy the universe not by his pure power. So he also not uni+

Ultima already cooked

Infinite zamasu feat doesn't matter since we saw goku always saying "i can beat this guy" and getting rag dollged after that. Doesn't prove he can defeat infinite zamasu

Good thing Goku's statement isn't the main scaling point!

jiren transcending time doesn't make him also uni+ since transcending time only means he is immune to time abilities

Reasonable

Goku never destroyed U7, so there's no way he could be universal

Low tier argument

Goku was surprised by Beerus' sneeze that destroyed a planet, so there's no way he can be universal if he's scared by a planetary attack

Nuke level Saitama??

Moro and Zamasu are said to be capable of destroying galaxies, so Goku is only galaxy level at most

I think Zamasu translation could refer to "all galaxies" or "cosmos" iirc

Zeno is bounded by space and times Logically if he is truly creator of all of Multiverses and Timelines and his existence beyond that, there should be no multiple version of Zeno, aka transduality existence. Fodder god is not even beyond Cosmology of Dragon ball, caps at 4D

No duh he didn't create every conceivable timeline, he is literally stated to be ruler of all 12 Universes

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'll give my summarized thoughts without too much bias!

Reasonable, infinite universe has arguments against it. Not being bigger than our normal observable universe... idk about that chief

No composite cosmologies = reasonable?

"Hitting each other with power capable of destroying the universe itself"

No composite cosmologies = no time dimension = no space-times = reasonable? since he's saying they aren't Hypertimeline level essentially

Reasonable

Cringe

Why didn't Broly just destroy the universe immediately and end the movie? is he stupid??

WoV never stated to be infinite anyway

Ultima already cooked

Good thing Goku's statement isn't the main scaling point!

Reasonable

Low tier argument

Nuke level Saitama??

I think Zamasu translation could refer to "all galaxies" or "cosmos" iirc

No duh he didn't create every conceivable timeline, he is literally stated to be ruler of all 12 Universes

I think that even if composite cosmology is dismantled we can still use the dimensions of lights to prove that the Universe is 2-C

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

But it would be interesting if we had quotes from Zeno having created all 12 Universes and the timelines, would that give him anything other than reality manipulation or creation?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I think that even if composite cosmology is dismantled we can still use the dimensions of lights to prove that the Universe is 2-C

How so?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

How so?

Soon you will see

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Hey guys, here's what I plan to do.

• Fix DBS' dogshit scaling
• Fix SSB's dogshit multiplier
• Bring 22nd Budokai Tien and Goku back to moon level. (And trust me, it will be easy)

In that order. I'm currently dealing with SSB's dogshit multiplier so let's hope that gets solved soon

All my plans for Dragon Ball have been accomplished. I am now at peace.
Told ya making Tien 5-C was easy as heck, dunno how that downgrade even got through.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

I think that even if composite cosmology is dismantled we can still use the dimensions of lights to prove that the Universe is 2-C

That sounds like a good idea. /hj

 

[Omegabronic]

All my plans for Dragon Ball have been accomplished. I am now at peace.
Told ya making Tien 5-C was easy as heck, dunno how that downgrade even got through.

Wait, the SSB's changed?

 

[Omegabronic]

That sounds like a good idea. /hj

Oh no, that war will start again?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That sounds like a good idea. /hj

Great, create chaos, I don't doubt that you will be targeted by everyone like I was for just trying to demote Zeno.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Wait, the SSB's changed?

Yeah, it was 10x, now it's 50x (for the manga, it was always 50x on the anime)

 

[Damage3245]

All my plans for Dragon Ball have been accomplished. I am now at peace.
Told ya making Tien 5-C was easy as heck, dunno how that downgrade even got through.

Nothing is ever set in stone really. Revisions that seem obvious at one time become contradicted at another time. Who knows how the profiles will look a year or two from now.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Nothing is ever set in stone really. Revisions that seem obvious at one time become contradicted at another time. Who knows how the profiles will look a year or two from now.

Unless new evidence comes to light, any re-interpretation of the current information will be targeted with the same arguments that selected our current interpretation as valid and more consistent.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Why does Gogeta always smile?

According to one theory, Godita always smiles out of nowhere, due to the fact that she knows it is a fusion.So he knows that Goku and Vegeta will get stronger. over time, reducing the chance of them fusing.Consequently, the time the fusion lives is reduced. He smiles looking at the horizon,feeling alive.

Do you think that about Gogeta too?

 

[Veronica]

Wasn't Cell Max attack compared to a black hole sucking everything?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Wasn't Cell Max attack compared to a black hole sucking everything?

No, it is actually said to be a black hole that would absorb the entire Universe

After declaring in a low voice, Gohan lightly pushed Cellmax's fist.


"Huh!"

He quickly delivers a powerful flying kick that sinks into its massive belly.

Okuyama Gekitotsu Cellmax was carried into the rocky mountain on the back and crashed into it.

"G-gaaaaaa...!"

Cellmax turned his angry eyes to Gohan, who was looking down on him. Migiteu

Raise your right hand.

A thunderous sound that loosened the air gradually turned into an intense heat. Gohan, who was observing the situation, suddenly opened his eyes.

「!?」

Cellmax noticed that a light bullet containing a huge amount of energy was forming in his right hand.

The dark bullet of light grows before you see it and becomes a huge amount of energy covering the surface of the Earth. The surrounding debris is quickly sucked in by the gravity of the Cellmax's air bullets, creating a huge vortex.

How about dinner? But Gohan remains unfazed.

On the contrary, for some reason he even smiled. He sat down: As a Saiyan who loves combat, would Gohan's instincts lead him to do this?

Cellmax, who produced a gigantic energy bullet, condensed the energy all at once.

Although it is large enough to be lifted with Uchu's right hand, Cellmax's super-powerful air bullet, like a black hole swallowing the universe, absorbs energy from the environment and becomes even more powerful.



Dark ball

 

[Veronica]

No, it is actually said to be a black hole that would absorb the entire Universe

After declaring in a low voice, Gohan lightly pushed Cellmax's fist.


"Huh!"

He quickly delivers a powerful flying kick that sinks into its massive belly.

Okuyama Gekitotsu Cellmax was carried into the rocky mountain on the back and crashed into it.

"G-gaaaaaa...!"

Cellmax turned his angry eyes to Gohan, who was looking down on him. Migiteu

Raise your right hand.

A thunderous sound that loosened the air gradually turned into an intense heat. Gohan, who was observing the situation, suddenly opened his eyes.

「!?」

Cellmax noticed that a light bullet containing a huge amount of energy was forming in his right hand.

The dark bullet of light grows before you see it and becomes a huge amount of energy covering the surface of the Earth. The surrounding debris is quickly sucked in by the gravity of the Cellmax's air bullets, creating a huge vortex.

How about dinner? But Gohan remains unfazed.

On the contrary, for some reason he even smiled. He sat down: As a Saiyan who loves combat, would Gohan's instincts lead him to do this?

Cellmax, who produced a gigantic energy bullet, condensed the energy all at once.

Although it is large enough to be lifted with Uchu's right hand, Cellmax's super-powerful air bullet, like a black hole swallowing the universe, absorbs energy from the environment and becomes even more powerful.



Dark ball

Can't we use just a regular moon sized black hole as a lowball?