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what novel
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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When Dragon Ball Super: Broly released, it also came out alongisde an official novelization of the movie which we use for the scaling on the wiki (things like Frieza being able to stagger and make Broly dodge his full power attacks, or that Swirling Lights dimension Gogeta and Broly fought as examples which come to mind). But the issue is that the novelization is Japanese only, and has never been officially translated into English or other languages to my knowledge.
A real shame since it seems to be a pretty solid adaptation of the movie, but in 2024 I highly doubt we'll see it ever be officially translated outside its home language
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I have it all, if anyone wants to translate it in full I'll send it
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Hi, I'm someone new to the wiki. Nice to greet you. Sorry, if my English is a bit difficult to understand, it's not my native language.
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Does anybody know any of any scenes where Ki Concentration is explicitly stated to increase Power Level, like when Raditz's analyzed Goku's Kamehameha?
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No one has bothered to translate it, I suppose. Although, also translating from Japanese is not something that is easy.
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From what I've found, super attacks = 100% of the Ki throughout the entire body x PL bonus from condensing Ki into a single point, which'll do nicely for me.
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What would we say is the minimum size of the neutral zone? Or more specifically, the part that separates universe 6 and 7?, I know it has a sun and can contain planetary, so solar system sized?
Killerdrone123
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It holds the 12 universes so it is bare minimum way bigger than this universes it is also an insignificant 5d structure if you want the minimum size of the space between the u7 and u6 it would still be unquantifiable tbh
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No, I am not interested in significance based on higher dimension attempts
2c can't go to 2b or 2a via multipliers because the distance between 2 universes isn't known according the the tier page
the space between the macrocosms in U6 and U7 in DBS is shown and it contains celestial bodies,, so i wanted to know if the size based on what it contains to can bridge that 2c to 2b gap
Killerdrone123
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I knew you were aiming for this but apparently there is no evidence or lack of evidence to concretely give us the distance between them taking the bare minimum won't help here I guess.
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That's a shame
I thought I saw a place in the site where they scale spaces to a size based on what they're shown to contain
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Our tier 2 rules suck ass we clown in this mfer
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It contains galaxies and several planets, so its size should be larger than several galaxies combined, I think the size is Universal
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A universe between 12 2-C universes
Vietthai96
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More like 18 2-C universes, it was originally 18 macrocosm until Zeno had mood swing and deleted 6
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So should we give size 2-C for neutral zone with count of 18 Universes?
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I just realized something, I think we have this wrong
The space between universes is the space between low2c universes, unlike dragon ball
A db universe is equivalent to a vsbattle 2c multiverse, so the space between low2c universes can also be the one between the living world and the Kaioshin realm
The space between universes is the space between low2c universes, unlike dragon ball
A db universe is equivalent to a vsbattle 2c multiverse, so the space between low2c universes can also be the one between the living world and the Kaioshin realm
Was this scene specifically in the space between u6 and u7 or after the camera zoomed out showing more wider view showing the realm with the two universes ?
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Just to note, I want referring to the total size, just the part in between 2 universes that seperates them
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Yes, the super Shenron is still shown between the Universes, he doesn't leave there, and it seems that all the galaxies are within that neutral zone that separates the Universe
Before you tell me that I'm upgrading the neutral dimension, that whole place is purple with planets and stars, which also shows galaxies (it's not in the normal Universe)
The space of the normal Universe is all blue, very different from the neutral dimension where purple predominates with blue
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He scales to an entire timeline, but is not accepted here, he manages to restore all 12 Universes together, quite capable of scaling to another 36 Universes
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What about the whole lifting strength business, like If Moro absorbed him would he gain his multi Galactic lifting strength?
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I think so, but I don't think Moro can absorb anything bigger than several galaxies combined, I'm aware that his absorption was capable of taking a solar system and 300 or so planets, but that's absurd.
Spinoirr
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I mean, in salad Saiyans Cell prime story he absorbed all of Universe 7's life + Beerus except whis and even abrohed Super shenron
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Serious?
Spinoirr
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I really wanted to see this, it would be timely if it happened in canon
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Spinoirr
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I can't edit
I don't have PC
Spinoirr
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Don't need to, I'm the one editing itI can't edit
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I understand bro
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No, he doesn´t?
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Goku vs Akatsuki
Goku Classic 🆚 Akatsuki The only restrictions here will be Obito Uchiha and the Edo Tensei forms. Goku will have blood in his eyes when he discovers that Akatsuki killed his friends and his grandpa, to find the Dragon Balls to have everything he wants
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Right there’s an area between dimensions in the macrocosm is called the Subspace. It’s an area devoid of concept of time and space and contains Sugoroku Space and RoSaT. So, that acts like an insignificant 5D axis, and the neutral space acts an insignificant 6D axis. Though on the wiki it wouldn’t qualify for anything since it’d need to be significant in size to be tierable.
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Ins´t the Subspace a Toei-only stuff?
Killerdrone123
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Composite cosmology plus it was mentioned in chozenshu guidebook for dbs iirc
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No, the Subspace is mentioned in the Chozenshuu. It isn’t Toei only.
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Yea, I know this
Multipliers taking people from 2c to 2b aren't allowed because the distance between those universes in a multiverse is unknown
If it can be quantified, then a multiplier can do so, since all 3 universal space times in each macrocosm are not connected to each other, they are seperated by a 5d space.
If we can quantify the distance between the living world (or even the big globe) to the Kaioshin realm, we can use multipliers to scale them up, all we need is a timeframe of a character going from the living world to the Kaioshin realm (or a timeframe for them going to the neutral zone which would be a larger distance and act as a lowball)
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