Doctor Strange vs Jason Voorhees

[Colonel_Krukov]

*Standard battle assumptions
*Speed Equalised
*Endgame Strange vs Jason X

Doctor Strange: 0 ()

Jason Voorhees: 0 ()

Mommy Therapy: 0 ()

Strange is 47.8 megatons and Jason scales to 43 megatons

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Is Mind Manip in character and how exactly does it work? The profile doesn't explain it very well. Same question for his absorption.

I'm leaning towards Strange for his significantly higher intelligence, versatility with flight and hax, far better range, and multiple ways to BFR to ultimately get rid of Jason for good.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I believe it's to do with someone being manipulated into eating his heart in Jason goes to hell.

I'm unfamiliar with Jason X (I'm only familiar with the movies) but there's links to the feats on his profile. (This and this)

 

[chosen]

Doctor strange starts with portals so he can just bfr Jason i Think
Even if we say he wouldn't just do shit that can't damage
+plus strange is at least 50 megatons
Looking at the profile Jason x also can't counter the stones time hax and transmuatation
Voting strange via bfr transmuatation and time hax

 

[chosen]

Doctor strange starts with portals so he can just bfr Jason i Think
Even if we say he wouldn't just do shit that can't damage
+plus strange is at least 50 megatons
Looking at the profile Jason x also can't counter the stones time hax and transmuatation
Voting strange via bfr transmuatation and time hax

Plus absorbtion seems Like it needs contact
Strange will just counter that via not allowing Jason to make physical contact

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Strange is 47.8 megatons

Strange is massively above 47.8 Megatons actually. Or significantly above baseline 7-B+

 

[chosen]

Strange is massively above 47.8 Megatons actually. Or significantly above baseline 7-B+

Honestly hulk and Thor should be City possible City+ (going by how much more damage they did than mk 6 lasers who is only 1,0460251046025 below City+ but that is another duscusion)

 

[Qawsedf234]

Strange is 47.8 megatons and Jason scales to a nuke which I assume to be 15 megatons

Jason scales to a 43 Megaton explosion.

As for Strange wouldn't the time stone be optional equipment? He's lost it longer than he's had it and the stone itself isn't a instant win without set up.

He still stomps but I don't think it's because of the Time Stone.

 

[chosen]

Jason scales to a 43 Megaton explosion.

As for Strange wouldn't the time stone be optional equipment? He's lost it longer than he's had it and the stone itself isn't a instant win without set up.

He still stomps but I don't think it's because of the Time Stone.

O yeah he lost time Stone in iw
He would still have transmuatation and bfr at least

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm pretty sure Strange should be able to one shot Jason with his magic here

 

[chosen]

I'm pretty sure Strange should be able to one shot Jason here

Via physical ap no there is no 7,5x difference
Via hax Yes

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Via physical ap no there is no 7,5x difference

There doesn't always need a 7.5x difference for a one shot. Strange massively scales above what Jason scales to. Strange would AP stomp

 

[chosen]

There doesn't always need a 7.5x difference for a one shot. Strange massively scales above what Jason scales to. Strange would AP stomp

Yes but 7,5x is the standard rule
The difference isn't even 3x difference so idk why to Assume one shot
He does ap stomp though

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Yes but 7,5x is the standard rule
The difference isn't even 3x difference so idk why to Assume one shot
He does ap stomp though

No, It's only the standard rule if it's like: Character A scales to 15 Megatons. Character B scales to 20 Megatons. Character B cannot one shot Characters A because he is not 7.5x stronger than Character A.

But if the case is (Such as here) is: Character A scales to 15 Megatons. Character B scales to one shotting someone who is 20 Megatons. Character B can one shot Characters A because he one shot someone stronger than Character A.

 

[Qawsedf234]

But if the case is (Such as here) is: Character A scales to 15 Megatons

Character A is two upgrades superior to his previous incarnation that took a 43 Megaton explosion to the face. The 15 Megaton thing in the OP is just an incorrect assumption.

So Strange isn't in one shot AP range.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I know that. I was giving an example.

Strange still scales on a much higher level of AP than Jason does.

 

[Popted2]

Strange FRA

 

[Qawsedf234]

Strange scales based on a WoG statement about not considering Ultron a major threat/general threat. That's not an example of "can one shot" that's just them thinking they're strong enough or haxed enough to be able to deal with Ultron easily.

So your example doesn't work in my view. You would need something better like comic Homelander vs Baku or something. He still wins due to magical BFR or soul hax but he doesn't AP stomp.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Strange scales based on a WoG statement about not considering Ultron a major threat/general threat. That's not an example of "can one shot" that's just them thinking they're strong enough or hated enough to be superior to Ultron.

So your example doesn't work in my view. You would need something better like comic Homelander vs Baku or something.

I didn't mention him and Ultron tho. Thor and Hulk easily scale above the Leviathan shells, which are completely durable against Iron Man's lasers. Ultron could easily overpower Thor, and Strange is stronger than Ultron.

Endgame Strange > Pre IW Strange > Ultron => Thor > Leviathan >>> Iron Man's lasers = 47.8 Megatons

 

[chosen]

Strange scales based on a WoG statement about not considering Ultron a major threat/general threat. That's not an example of "can one shot" that's just them thinking they're strong enough or haxed enough to be able to deal with Ultron easily.

So your example doesn't work in my view. You would need something better like comic Homelander vs Baku or something. He still wins due to magical BFR or soul hax but he doesn't AP stomp.

He also has some Current 'ew scaling via wong shields tanking attack that destroyed some leviathan easily

 

[chosen]

I didn't mention him and Ultron tho. Thor and Hulk easily scale above the Leviathan shells, which are completely durable against Iron Man's lasers. Ultron could easily overpower Thor, and Strange is stronger than Ultron.

Endgame Strange > Pre IW Strange > Ultron => Thor > Leviathan >>> Iron Man's lasers = 47.8 Megatons

Ultron slapped Thor
So he can slap an near 50 megaton being

 

[Qawsedf234]

Ultron slapped Thor

But he didn't one shot. Being more powerful than someone isn't the example Emirp brought up. The gap isn't enough for a one shot, especially when the Jason here is also much stronger than the one who preformed the 43 Megaton feat.

Also I don't think any of Strange's attacks have that much AoE so he'd have to get through the regen first.

But in my view this is a stomp, especially with the lifting strength advantage being in the quadrillions range and Strange's mirror portal being difficult/impossible for Jason to properly dodge.

 

[chosen]

But he didn't one shot. Being more powerful than someone isn't the example Emirp brought up. The gap isn't enough for a one shot, especially when the Jason here is also much stronger than the one who preformed the 43 Megaton feat.

Also I don't think any of Strange's attacks have that much AoE so he'd have to get through the regen first.

But in my view this is a stomp, especially with the lifting strength advantage being in the quadrillions range and Strange's mirror portal being difficult/impossible for Jason to properly dodge.

Ik pointed out ultron slapped as he put >= when ultron should be straight stronger

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah Strange has a better scaling chain

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Should this be closed then?

Would've fought teleportation would help dodge the portals but guess not.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Jason, if he does have teleportation, doesn't use it to dodge anything. More like to close the gap on his prey or ourflank them.

 

[OwenVaunman]

I say Strange, if for no other reason than with Time hax

 

[Qawsedf234]

if for no other reason than with Time hax

Endgame Strange doesn't have Time Hax

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Why is this thread still open? this is just a Strange bfr stomp.

 

[Daddybrawl]

So, is Jason X completely made of Nanite things or whatever? Cause Undead Jason has the ability to possess someone if he’s killed by Mind Manipulating them to eat his heart, and X says ‘all previous abilities’, so I assume this would extend to Jason X as well if he has one in the first place.

Idk how much that helps, but it does mean brute force won’t go well, since I don’t see a resistance on Strange’s profile (could just be blind, though)

 

[Qawsedf234]

So, is Jason X completely made of Nanite things or whatever?

Jason is infused with Nanites, but he isn't completely made of them.

 

[Daddybrawl]

Then that should help prevent a win via brute force. Now, how to dodge those portals…
What stops him from just… stepping out of them (Assuming they’re not some sort of portal-like projectile)? It’s not like Strange can decapitate him by closing them without getting subjected to that mind-Manip (or him just resurrecting), and Jason’s not gonna just sit there.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Strange doesn't do decapitation with them. He can make it show up under your feat, he can move it like a projectile, he can send it from different angles. etc.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Portals also aren't his only way of BFR. He can throw him into the mirror dimension (which is essentially unavoidable for Jason), or open up some weird energy tentacle shit from the ground to suck him in.

 

[Daddybrawl]

I didn’t think he would, just mentioning that he couldn’t. That’s still good information, though- how often does he start with just portaling people away? I recall him doing that to Thanos or something during IW iirc, but I don’t think he actually sent him somewhere else without following him.

And how does throwing people in the Mirror Dimension work?

I also apologize if I’m asking too many questions, but can you send a scan of that tentacle attack you just mentioned? I don’t remember that I’m afraid, and it’s not on the profile lol

 

[Qawsedf234]

And how does throwing people in the Mirror Dimension work?

He summons a weird wall and throws it. Once it hits the person, it will shunt them to the mirror dimension.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Loki, someone he viewed as a threat, he responded to immediately by opening a portal underneath him. Later once Loki drew out his daggers he threw the portal towards him as a projectile.

 

[Daddybrawl]

He summons a weird wall and throws it. Once it hits the person, it will shunt them to the mirror dimension.

Ah, and Thanos just breaks it with a single punch. Like, I know he used the Power Stone for it, but Strange is comparable to Thanos + Power Stone with his Magic in the first place, is he not? And Jason’s got pretty similar AP, so what stops him from just swatting away the projectile as well?

After all, Jason’s not going to just sit there, and Thanos doesn’t need NPI to break it, unless I’m blind lol.

Also thank you Qawsed.

Loki, someone he viewed as a threat, he responded to immediately by opening a portal underneath him. Later once Loki drew out his daggers he threw the portal towards him as a projectile.

Still, can you show me this or something? I have no recollection of this happening, although it could just be a lapse in memory. My apologies if I’m asking too much.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Like, I know he used the Power Stone for it,

Actually he used more than that. If you watch the gif frame by frame, you can see the IG's reflection in the mirror, and the power, reality and space stones were all glowing when he punched it.

Jason’s not going to just sit there

NGL he likely would. Jason's main form of attack is to charge directly at his opponent if they're both in an open field. He's more tank and spank than dodge and smash

Still, can you show me this or something?

Near the start of Ragnarok he does this

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Was going to respond, but Qawsedf beat me to it.

Here's the portal projectile.