Disaster-prone geniuses with a dark secret in a civilization of sapient animals (Wagstaff vs Marcy)

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Theoretically it could be my aunt velma : 0
♩Then I fell down a flight of stairs♩ : 7
Nothing bad ever happens to them : 0

Speed equalized
9-A Marcy with this calc used
Fight takes place on the highest floor on Hightower, 5 meters apart
Wagstaff has a Thulecite Suit, a Ham Bat, a fire staff, his visor, and 5 Coconades

Bonus round, what if the roles were reversed with Wagstaff ending up in Newtopia and Marcy ending up in the Pig City of The Constant

 

[Imaginym]

Wagstaff has a Thulecite Suit, a Ham Bat, a fire staff, and 5 Coconades

What do these do?

IDK what Wagstaff's combat experience is, nor what his physical activity is. But I do remember Marcy being shown to be fairly physically active & adept, & she kinda had some combat experience?

Wagstaff's AP justification for being Small Building Level says:
Small Building level with better equipment (Able to tank a considerable amount of hits from bosses capable of easily knocking down trees)
Low End: 2.41317*38000000 = 9.1700460e7 Joules, 0.022 Tons of TNT, Small Building level

High End: 16.27163 x 38000000 = 6.1832194e8 Joules, 0.148 Tons of TNT Small Building level+

Unsure which is used, but since his profile seems to lack a +, I presume that means he scales to the Low End.

Marcy in Small Building Level, according to the OP's linked calc is:

0.102 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level+)

0.102 / 0.022 = 4.6363636363636363636363636363636


If that's right, Marcy is not only the one who's more combat adept, but she has a significant AP advantage.
I dunno what Wagstaff's OP-specified Equipment does, but I sure hope it's helpful to him, lol.

 

[Peppersalt43]

IDK what Wagstaff's combat experience is

Mostly just fighting off armed soldiers

High End: 16.27163 x 38000000 = 6.1832194e8 Joules, 0.148 Tons of TNT Small Building level+

Actually he uses the high end since the feat was done rather casually (It took the aforementioned boss one hit to knock it down)

I dunno what Wagstaff's OP-specified Equipment does, but I sure hope it's helpful to him, lol.

The staff shoots fireballs, his suit just gives him the 9-A rating, the coconade is a grenade, and the Ham Bat does not degrade when used

 

[Imaginym]

Mostly just fighting off armed soldiers

Context? How he do it?

Actually he uses the high end since the feat was done rather casually (It took the aforementioned boss one hit to knock it down)

Then Wagstaff has an almost 50% AP Advantage, if I'm not mistaken. (Assuming Marcy only scales equally to Anne's bath bomb feat, & not below or above it. Anyone know how she scales to it?)

The staff shoots fireballs,

Range? Size? Limitations? Scans?

his suit just gives him the 9-A rating, the coconade is a grenade, and the Ham Bat does not degrade when used

Ham Bat is... a baseball bat? A what?

Scans might be helpful. No offense meant.

 

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Range? Size? Limitations? Scans?

Fire Staff

The Fire Staff is a Magic ranged weapon. It requires 2 Nightmare Fuel, 1 Spear, and 1 Red Gem to craft and a Shadow Manipulator to prototype. The Fire Staff can set targets on fire from up to 8 units away, setting them aflame and making them take Fire damage, at the cost of 1 per use. To get the...

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And the range is several meters based on the profiles

Ham Bat is... a baseball bat? A what?

Ham Bat

The Ham Bat is a Melee Weapon that inflicts 59.5 points of damage. It has unlimited uses within a 10-day period, after which it spoils. Despite being made from meat, it cannot be consumed by the player or other creatures in the game, and it won't provoke a hostile reaction from Bunnymen when...

dontstarve.fandom.com

Yes, you beat the shit out of people with meat
Yes, it is one of the stronger weapons in the game

Context? How he do it?

From fighting these dudes who have basic combat experience and can use a halberd properly

Also just a question, does Marcy's clumsiness hinder her in any way in combat? Because I might need to change something in Wagstaff's equipment if so

 

[Imaginym]

I don't remember how much her clumsiness hinders her. Been a while since I saw the episode where she was in fights.

It's mostly irrelevant, but she was clumsy enough that even her gem-powered form, in space, tripped over a rock. But I don't remember about base.

 

[Peppersalt43]

I don't remember how much her clumsiness hinders her. Been a while since I saw the episode where she was in fights.

It's mostly irrelevant, but she was clumsy enough that even her gem-powered form, in space, tripped over a rock. But I don't remember about base.

OK, and then what about the stuff I just told you?

 

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Marcy's Standard Equipment lists Potions. Is anyone informed on what those Potions do?
Also, does anyone remember Marcy's combat experience?

 

[Peppersalt43]

Marcy's Standard Equipment lists Potions. Is anyone informed on what those Potions do?
Also, does anyone remember Marcy's combat experience?

Wait, you don't?

 

[Imaginym]

It's been a while since I've seen her in battle, let alone given much thought to what her potions do; Not like she used them in her Gem-Powered form.

 

[De6DimensionalDream]

Onestly I don't know why you are using the soap bomb feat, considering that Amphibia has much better feats and also more straightforward in my opinion. Anyway, Marcy should have access to some basic spells and potion that she learned from Maggie, which seems to include transmutation. Also while Marcy is the weakest of the Trio, we have seen that humans in Amphibia, especially the three girls, are casually superhumans by our world standard, so she should take the physical stats imo, but I donìt know anything about Don't Starve, so I might be wrong

 

[Peppersalt43]

Honestly I don't know why you are using the soap bomb feat,

Problem is that's the only one that gives a usable AP for this match

transmutation

She can turn people to stone? And it's standard equipment? And does she start with it or uses it often in-character?

but I donìt know anything about Don't Starve, so I might be wrong

But what about skill. Also I still need the answer for the question I had

Also just a question, does Marcy's clumsiness hinder her in any way in combat? Because I might need to change something in Wagstaff's equipment if so

 

[De6DimensionalDream]

She can turn people to stone? And it's standard equipment? And does she start with it or uses it often in-character?

She never tried that because she learn it pretty late in the story, then all her other fights are against non living foes and then she gets stabbed and mind controlled, so she never had a chance to use it. But Maddie was able to transform peaple pretty easily, so Marcy should be able of the same. As for skills, she is considered smart enough to be a member of the Core, beat Andrias, a thousand year old king, at frog chess, build a bridge, fought pirates and beasts for three months, and is considered overall one of the smartest person in the series, probably in the top three

 

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She never tried that because she learn it pretty late in the story, then all her other fights are against non living foes and then she gets stabbed and mind controlled, so she never had a chance to use it. But Maddie was able to transform peaple pretty easily, so Marcy should be able of the same. As for skills, she is considered smart enough to be a member of the Core, beat Andrias, a thousand year old king, at frog chess, build a bridge, fought pirates and beasts for three months, and is considered overall one of the smartest person in the series, probably in the top three

OK, hang on a sec

 

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But Maddie

Wait, who was this?

As for skills, she is considered smart enough to be a member of the Core, beat Andrias, a thousand year old king, at frog chess, build a bridge, fought pirates and beasts for three months, and is considered overall one of the smartest person in the series, probably in the top three

OK then, Wagstaff's intelligence feats are mostly in his intelligence section. Most importantly in those feats are being able to deduce the origins of a creature with shrouded nature and outsmarting a person who regularly tricks people with average or above average intelligence. Oh, and being able to create a functioning AI.

For combat, he mostly just fights off giant monsters and the police

Also, the thing I changed was giving Wagstaff one of his glasses since he can't see without one

 

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[Imaginym]

I don't remember Marcy's skill feats, unfortunately, so can't vote AtM.

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[Peppersalt43]

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Done. Also don't worry, @De6DimensionalDream listed her skill feats here

She never tried that because she learn it pretty late in the story, then all her other fights are against non living foes and then she gets stabbed and mind controlled, so she never had a chance to use it. But Maddie was able to transform peaple pretty easily, so Marcy should be able of the same. As for skills, she is considered smart enough to be a member of the Core, beat Andrias, a thousand year old king, at frog chess, build a bridge, fought pirates and beasts for three months, and is considered overall one of the smartest person in the series, probably in the top three

 

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[Imaginym]

Marcy's feats are impressive, & I don't know Wagstaff that well. If you're going to ask me to vote/participate, I'll tentatively vote Marcy for now. She's decently agile, notably equipment, & has some decent equipment.