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Delta vs Bambietta Basterbine vs Big Mom vs Erza Scarlett vs Merlin Vs Dorothy Unsworth vs Ryuko vs Crona vs Esdeath vs Chrome Dokuro vs Issei

I am going to say this again.

Big Mom will be out of range of her illusions because she was already flying extremely high in the Glamour World.

Stop using the illusions against her, she will be out of range.
 
YungManzi said:
And if you believe them, then they affect you physically. Like; if she makes an illusion of you spontaneously combusting and you believe it, then you'll effectively spontaneously combust.
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Also, after Mukuro took control of the Rain Owl, Chrome could use mist flames to make the normal illusions look more real (not Real Illusions, but more... convincing) and then she used the lava attack again, so i really think this is her first move.
 
XDragnoir said:
I don't get it, Chrome can fool natural senses as well, i don't see anything here that is different from ESP, being able to fight without the 5 senses is nice and all, but to say this is an entirely different thing from ESP would need a bit more of detail.
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All mages in the Fairy Tail verse can sense Magic power, which is where they get their Extrasensory perception from Midnight's reflector illusions fools this type of sensing and Erza could see through it just fine. This is important as her other senses are treated differently than Extrasensory perception in verse and aren't considered in the same category as Magic sensing.
 
Loyd said:
She counters precog/normal illusion senses if i recall, apparently spirit/soul sense is enough which bambi has
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Then Bambi should be able to carpet bomb her or even use sklaverei and absorb her since she would literally be seeing a floating soul which would fuel her power. She could even make the bombs explode and get her with the aoe.
 
Good resistance to illusions, or something with far better or more sensory abilities than Tsuna's Hyper Intuition.

Don't think if soul senses is enough, since a lot of characters in KHR can sense DWFs which are made from life-force energy; and they're still susceptible to illusions.
 
KingTempest said:
I am going to say this again.

Big Mom will be out of range of her illusions because she was already flying extremely high in the Glamour World.

Stop using the illusions against her, she will be out of range.
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Once GW is gone everyone should be on the ground accept people who can fly can big mom fly?
 
KingTempest said:
I am going to say this again.

Big Mom will be out of range of her illusions because she was already flying extremely high in the Glamour World.

Stop using the illusions against her, she will be out of range.
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Chrome can kill her before she flies high enough tho, and i illusions should be at the very least sight based, so as long as Chrome can see it's fine.
 
YungManzi said:
Good resistance to illusions, or something with far better or more sensory abilities than Tsuna's Hyper Intuition.

Don't think if soul senses is enough, since a lot of characters in KHR can sense DWFs which are made from life-force energy; and they're still susceptible to illusions.
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Im not saying good spirit sense to neg illusion, is it enough jus to sense chrome
 
XDragnoir said:
Also, after Mukuro took control of the Rain Owl, Chrome could use mist flames to make the normal illusions look more real (not Real Illusions, but more... convincing) and then she used the lava attack again, so i really think this is her first move.
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kek; I'm one of the KHR peeps who believes that any mist flame enhanced illusion is a real illusion. It's just some "more real" than others.
 
Axxtentacle said:
Also uh... SBA range rules puts Merlin at 4km away, so the illusions won’t do anything lmao.
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* Rules
Stats are Equalized
No Reiatsu crush
No outside help.
Magic/Powers are Equalized based on verse Equalization
AP amps mot allowed
Characters start 150 meters apart.
Characters in character
 
Actually i do think bleach has some good spirit/soul sense though.IF sensing her soul is a counter then Bambi should be alright ig since literally every bleach character is proficient at seeing souls and reiatsu. Its like basic eyesight to them. If they grow further powerful and train they can even see the soul ribbons/reiraku which are attached to souls in bleach and interact with them which has an additional layer of invisibility and npi on top of the soul.
 
YungManzi said:
kek; I'm one of the KHR peeps who believes that any mist flame enhanced illusion is a real illusion. It's just some "more real" than others.
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Glo Xinia literally said even those amped illusions weren't real so it simply does not work, stop the downplay already Yung
 
Big mom in her current fight flew to the skies and spammed lightning bolts and flames, and her homies can fight without her being there.

She will be far out of range.
 
Torsin said:
Actually i do think bleach has some good spirit/soul sense though.IF sensing her soul is a counter then Bambi should be alright ig since literally every bleach character is proficient at seeing souls and reiatsu. Its like basic eyesight to them. If they grow further powerful and train they can even see the soul ribbons/reiraku which are attached to souls in bleach and interact with them which have an additional layer of invisibility and npi on top of the soul.
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I remember a upgrade thread for aizen his kyoka suigetsu negs this too feels good man
 
If Bambi is under an illusion by chrome her response would just be to spam harder. And let's get this straight, this is specifically Inheritance Chrome? Not CoTR with the Reality Glove?
 
Loyd said:
Im not saying good spirit sense to neg illusion, is it enough jus to sense chrome
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Probably not still. Takeshi Yamamoto, who can sense DWFs and killing intent, needed a special radar specifically made to counter illusions. Just to stop from getting wall'd.

 
KingTempest said:
Chrome handles Merlin and Bambi handles Chrome?
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Why would Merlin be out if the illusion doesn’t kill her though? Merlin is a genius and it’s very possible that she’d realize she’s in an illusion. I don’t see what stops her from just TPing away or shielding herself.
XDragnoir said:
Everyone is 4km apart from each other? why did we even treat as if Dorothy could BFR everyone instantly then?
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We were mistaken. It’s 150m.
 
Torsin said:
Actually i do think bleach has some good spirit/soul sense though.IF sensing her soul is a counter then Bambi should be alright ig since literally every bleach character is proficient at seeing souls and reiatsu. Its like basic eyesight to them. If they grow further powerful and train they can even see the soul ribbons/reiraku which are attached to souls in bleach and interact with them which has an additional layer of invisibility and npi on top of the soul.
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Would this be enough its basically another layer of extra sensory
I remember shunsui talking about it too
 
Merlin could probably survive with a Perfect Cube or teleporting away tbh.

I also just thought of a really funny way that Ryuko just gets ****** out of this fight.

So, Perfect Cube reflects damage onto the person that hits it. Ryuko gets trapped into the Perfect Cube and her passive shockwaves get the damage reflected onto her till she dies.
 
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