Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[BlackDarkness679]

Inb4 arguments of alien x species living in the forge of creation making them irrelevant speed and tier 1

 

[Crowman123]

So is Hal. Hal is a much higher into Universal if not Multiversal, in fact.

Not fast or strong enough.

The speed of Hal’s ring is massively faster than the Omnitrix, so technically they would’ve

Read the comments on the Lantern vs Ben 10 video. And the like-to-dislike ratio (before Disney and co removed it) disagrees with you.

That is my logic.

 

[greymerlion2]

Because comics have their inconsistency issues, tbh it might be possible that Hal loses to Alien X. But **** me I aint forcing anyone to read minimum of 40/60/80+ years of comics and that'd be without considering scaling lol

...At the same time tho at least GLs have bit more feats to back em up. Its not that unbelievable. Also Alien X probably gets wanked too so ehh.

We gonna sit here and pretend that Ben isn’t inconsistent as well lmao?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Read the comments on the Lantern vs Ben 10 video. And the like-to-dislike ratio (before Disney and co removed it) disagrees with you.

That is my logic.

This is a logical fallacy my dude: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

“You’re wrong because people disagree with you” isn’t a valid argument. 99% of people in that comment section don’t know anything about Hal.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Okay, while masses' dislikes can potentially indicate problems, it doesn't factually prove masses are right and DB is wrong.

 

[Crowman123]

This is a logical fallacy my dude: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

“You’re wrong because people disagree with you” isn’t a valid argument. 99% of people in that comment section don’t know anything about Hal.

Green Lantern has so mony versions, and people know a version where he is considerably weaker than Ben 10.

Why do you want Green Lantern to win, even thougt everybody else disagrees? Is everybody else disagrees, you are not right. It is not a fallacy.

 

[Thebrawlbro]

Goku vs Superman has a lot of dislikes too. Superman still wins, despite what DBZ fanboys say

 

[TMaakkonen]

We gonna sit here and pretend that Ben isn’t inconsistent as well lmao?

I was just gonna ask, didnt the Ben reboot have a HORRIBLE anti-feat for Alien X lol

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

 

[Crowman123]

This is slowly becoming a complete mess. I do not want to talk about Ben 10 anymore. Lets talk about Kirby for a change. Can Kirby defeat Thanos (comic version)?

 

[Crowman123]

Goku vs Superman has a lot of dislikes too. Superman still wins, despite what DBZ fanboys say

Fanboy is incredilbly toxic term.

 

[greymerlion2]

I was just gonna ask, didnt the Ben reboot have a HORRIBLE anti-feat for Alien X lol

Dude got his shit rocked by Fourarms, Wall level Alien X.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Comics are more inconsistent, ben 10 is more like retconning stuff, since original, ultimate alien force and omniverse had different writers changing the world from previous series

 

[TMaakkonen]

This is slowly becoming a complete mess. I do not want to talk about Ben 10 anymore. Lets talk about Kirby for a change. Can Kirby defeat Thanos (comic version)?

I'm gonna take a shot in dark and say Kirby beats Thanos in profiles here lol

But realistically? Probably not. Absolutely not with DB stats.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I was just gonna ask, didnt the Ben reboot have a HORRIBLE anti-feat for Alien X lol

Reboot isnt canon to anything of the prime series, not even cosmology, is its own thing

 

[greymerlion2]

Comics are more inconsistent, ben 10 is more like retconning stuff, since original, ultimate alien force and omniverse had different writers changing the world from previous series

Humongousaur changes size at least 3 times an episode, trust me, retcons are not the only inconsistent thing about Ben 10.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I honestly wonder if Vilgax is soft banned because fear of Ben fans lmao

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

So, I've talked about Max vs Rex, but what would you guys think about Max Steal vs Jaime Blue Beetle?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Dude got his shit rocked by Fourarms, Wall level Alien X.

Reboot aint canon to the prime series, even the other ben we see there are nothing like the eras they are suppose to be from

 

[greymerlion2]

I honestly wonder if Vilgax is soft banned because fear of Ben fans lmao

Vilgax doesn’t get wanked to the heavens, they’re probably smart enough to realize the problem was just Alien X.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Humongousaur changes size at least 3 times an episode, trust me, retcons are not the only inconsistent thing about Ben 10.

That can be animation stuff rather then anything else, 2d animation can have animation inconsistencies, unless you do it 3D

 

[TacticalNuke002]

When is the earliest that we can expect some news about upcoming episodes?

 

[TMaakkonen]

When is the earliest that we can expect some news about upcoming episodes?

Prolly 2 weeks before the ep, late August at earliest.

 

[TyranoDoom30]

I don't know, this might be a based mu

 

[Loh67867]

I don't know, this might be a based mu

"I like Bowser, he's great."

 

[TMaakkonen]

Oh hello r/DeathBattleMatchUps user, how ya liking it here?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Green Lantern has so mony versions, and people know a version where he is considerably weaker than Ben 10.

Sure. Hal in the movies and TV shows would get destroyed by Ben. But the DC Comics version is who we’re talking about.

Why do you want Green Lantern to win, even thougt everybody else disagrees?

Because he factually wins? This isn’t about bias or popularity, Hal’s feats and abilities simply indicate he wins.

Is everybody else disagrees, you are not right. It is not a fallacy.

That literally is a fallacy though, namely Argumentum ad populum. And that’s asinine logic.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I really wish Ben was stronger though, he’s a way better character

 

[TMaakkonen]

Oh, did a recent podcast say that T-Shirt ep and Vegeta vs Mewtwo dont count as real eps?

I wanna stop marking them in my DB data lol

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Oh, did a recent podcast say that T-Shirt ep and Vegeta vs Mewtwo dont count as real eps?

I wanna stop marking them in my DB data lol

Stupid question: who WOULD win between Mewtwo and Vegeta?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Stupid question: who WOULD win between Mewtwo and Vegeta?

Depends on which version of Vegeta we're talking about.

 

[greymerlion2]

Stupid question: who WOULD win between Mewtwo and Vegeta?

Mewtwo summons Spoon.png and spoons Vegeta.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Stupid question: who WOULD win between Mewtwo and Vegeta?

Under most interpretations Vegeta destroys with one punch.

High-end Mew2 technically wins via Infinite speed

 

[NotoriouSoda]

I really wish Ben was stronger though, he’s a way better character

Tbf Hal has his moments of being a well written character too

 

[greymerlion2]

Tbf Hal has his moments of being a well written character too

Facts, I loved it when he went on an insane rampage after losing Coast City.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

While Hal has had a rocky history I think his powerset is pretty cool though, being able to do forge dreams and thoughts into reality and shit

 

[TMaakkonen]

Vegeta vs Mewtwo joke ep happened in 2014, so Vegeta even with DBZ easy wins because Poke fans didnt go crazy yet.

 

[Tipper17]

Alright wat i miss
I skim and I seen B10/Hal Debate fiasco and Death Battle being idiots in old era which is true

 

[Tipper17]

Stupid question: who WOULD win between Mewtwo and Vegeta?

Unless we're using Rainbow Rocket Mewtwo Vegeta pushes Mewtwo shit in

 

[Crowman123]

I'm gonna take a shot in dark and say Kirby beats Thanos in profiles here lol

But realistically? Probably not. Absolutely not with DB stats.

Alright wat i miss
I skim and I seen B10/Hal Debate fiasco and Death Battle being idiots in old era which is true

I made a comment and it quickly got out of hand. I am sorry for this mess, and i do not want to talk about it anymore.