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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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My rational mind is expecting Galactus vs Unicron, or something of that caliber. I don't expect even Death Battle to end a season with something "weak", although the shittiness of their 150th episode does leave me worrying.

My devious mind is hoping for Son Goku vs Pegasus Seiya, just for the spectacle and sheer unintentional troll-factor of seeing Goku get spanked a third time.
 
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Death the Kid vs. Satsuki Kiryuin (Soul Eater vs. Kill la Kill)

Pros:
  • An underrated thematic MU
  • Soundtrack could be nice
  • A blend of combat that complements both opponents
  • The dialogue could be funny as well as intense and/or philosophical
  • A MU that could go either way
Cons:
  • A niche MU
  • Both have other MU's that most people have already accepted
  • People would say that it wouldn't work animation wise
  • It could be too much like Shadow vs. Ryuko for the wrong reasons
 
Tbf, DB has not been that good perfect variety. Season 7 had Miles, Gwen and Venom, and this season alone had 2 different comics rich armored guys fights.

Since Black vs RF was late addition, who knows if they had Goku originally planned?
 
Time to make this thing too
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Pros:
  • Brings 2 new series into DB
  • Have a nice dialogue potential(mostly thanks to Raz, but still).
  • High animation potential.
  • Both can be represented good thanks to each other's lore.
  • Music potential can be good enough (at bare least Meat Circus slaps and we have strong iconic Earthbound themes)
  • Debatable if you don't buy most of Ness's stuff which are reliant on statements (Omnipresence, 5-D etc.)
  • Ben likes it
Cons:
  • Frisk is more popular
  • Slaughter if you buy Ness's stuff which are reliant on statements.
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Pros:
  • Brings 2 new series into DB
  • High music potential considering Undertale's OST.
  • Debatable if you don't buy stuff for Ness's reliant on statements.
  • Animation potential can be good enough.
  • The most popular Ness/Frisk MU
Cons
  • Ben likes Ness vs Raz
  • Slaughter if you buy Ness's stuff which are reliant on statements.
  • Frisk on DB is problematic since it's hard to represent Undertale absolutely right, considering some of the stuff depends on context(research and animation wise).
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
What's the general consensus about madara vs aizen?
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Overall, Madara has no way to counter Aizen's immortality and Aizen in character uses his complete hypnosis at the beginning of a fight as compared to Madara who uses genjutsu only when the situation calls for it due to a "vegeta complex" of enjoying a good combat afaik and this basically makes his entire arsenal meaningless in the fight if Aizen has him on KS from the start.

Pokemonfan807 said:
I take one look at madara and see Resistance to soul, illusion, perception, and power nullification.
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Couple of things:

-Souls in Naruto function a lot different than in Bleach. For some reason, souls in naruto are tangible and you can legit pull it back from you when you get soul stealed which would grant you resistance to soul manip (Idk the specifics of Madara's souls manip resistance but this was the basis for Narutos resistance).

-Aizen's kyoka suigetsu does more than just distort your vision and create illusions. it hijacks control of all of your senses to the point that he can even mess with the way you perceive how much time has passed.

-Aizen's power null is a non-factor in this fight since they are verse equalized which would mean the specifics of how reiatsu and chakra systems wont matter too much . iirc aizen's kido that does power null is only usable on enemies that are significantly weaker than him.

Pokemonfan807 said:
Is that reactive evolution thing the reason why people say aizen wins and because of his low godly regen.
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Not the only thing, but they are certainly a huge reason as to why he would take the W.


But with how they butchered Ichigo's stats, scaling and abilities, anything is possible for DB.
 
Oleggator said:
Time to make this thing too
VI-maFVyoFE.jpg

Pros:
  • Brings 2 new series into DB
  • Have a nice dialogue potential(mostly thanks to Raz, but still).
  • High animation potential.
  • Both can be represented good thanks to each other's lore.
  • Music potential can be good enough (at bare least Meat Circus slaps and we have strong iconic Earthbound themes)
  • Debatable if you don't buy most of Ness's stuff which are reliant on statements (Omnipresence, 5-D etc.)
  • Ben likes it
Cons:
  • Frisk is more popular
  • Slaughter if you buy Ness's stuff which are reliant on statements.
teib2au0suk61.jpg

Pros:
  • Brings 2 new series into DB
  • High music potential considering Undertale's OST.
  • Debatable if you don't buy stuff for Ness's reliant on statements.
  • Animation potential can be good enough.
  • The most popular Ness/Frisk MU
Cons
  • Ben likes Ness vs Raz
  • Slaughter if you buy Ness's stuff which are reliant on statements.
  • Frisk on DB is problematic since it's hard to represent Undertale absolutely right, considering some of the stuff depends on context(research and animation wise).
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Out of curiosity, how does Ness get past determination just bringing ness back?
 
TMaakkonen said:
Just wait a couple months and Bleach will prolly get them back.

Bleach, as well as Alien X & DBS are always getting threads here it seems.
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Bleach is a special case.

Our cycle of revision goes like this.

Step 1: Bloated CRT about a controversial upgrade/downgrade is made

Step 2: Cue the 300-400 messages long clusterfuck of messages arguing the semantics and translations of the scans.

Step 3: CRT is concluded in favor of Bleach.

Step 4: Wait 3 weeks to 2 months, A new thread by someone who was not present in the original thread is made questioning the upgrade/downgrade.

Step 5: Supporters redirect the OP to the OG thread with the OP being skeptic while the doubters who were present in the OG thread re-emerge seemingly willing to argue again when a compromise was already made.

Step 6: Second thread goes nowhere. A new CRT is in the horizon.

Rinse and Repeat.

We can never keep things in Bleach.
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Out of curiosity, how does Ness get past determination just bringing ness back?
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I think I saw someone made a fight with them and they said Ness had a way to drain Frisk’s determination but I do t know for sure if that’s true, not an Earthbound guy. Though it does seem pretty simply some type of Emotional Manipulation would be able to make Frisk less determined.
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Out of curiosity, how does Ness get past determination just bringing ness back?
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Tbh no one ever brought up how Ness would be able to kill Frisk. But I guess if you buy 5D stuff Frisk won't be able to survive Ness..? Like I guess 5D means time shinenguns won't help, plus with buying 5D you're buying ToTU thing with which Ness can technically do same what Frisk does.

But I grow to not buying this kind of stuff so I basically see Ness dying to both Frisk and 51/49 to Raz.
 
Madara has the rain drop meteor feat.
Aizen? Fragor feat?

They didn’t scale Ichigo to Kenpachi’s meteor even thou he fought and killed Yhwach twice. Aizen did even less. They said Yhwach isn’t planet level because of the soul flow. What feat could they possible scale for Aizen? None. This is going to be a stomp in Madara’s favor.
 
AppleLord said:
Madara has the rain drop meteor feat.
Aizen? Fragor feat?

They didn’t scale Ichigo to Kenpachi’s meteor even thou he fought and killed Yhwach twice. Aizen did even less. They said Yhwach isn’t planet level because of the soul flow. What feat could they possible scale for Aizen? None. This is going to be a stomp in Madara’s favor.
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That was years ago though, their opinion most likely will change.
 
AppleLord said:
Madara has the rain drop meteor feat.
Aizen? Fragor feat?

They didn’t scale Ichigo to Kenpachi’s meteor even thou he fought and killed Yhwach twice. Aizen did even less. They said Yhwach isn’t planet level because of the soul flow. What feat could they possible scale for Aizen? None. This is going to be a stomp in Madara’s favor.
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i presume they'll update/fact check there bleach knowledge from 4 years ago.
 
Yomi_Schwarz said:
Overall, Madara has no way to counter Aizen's immortality and Aizen in character uses his complete hypnosis at the beginning of a fight as compared to Madara who uses genjutsu only when the situation calls for it due to a "vegeta complex" of enjoying a good combat afaik and this basically makes his entire arsenal meaningless in the fight if Aizen has him on KS from the start.



Couple of things:

-Souls in Naruto function a lot different than in Bleach. For some reason, souls in naruto are tangible and you can legit pull it back from you when you get soul stealed which would grant you resistance to soul manip (Idk the specifics of Madara's souls manip resistance but this was the basis for Narutos resistance).

-Aizen's kyoka suigetsu does more than just distort your vision and create illusions. it hijacks control of all of your senses to the point that he can even mess with the way you perceive how much time has passed.

-Aizen's power null is a non-factor in this fight since they are verse equalized which would mean the specifics of how reiatsu and chakra systems wont matter too much . iirc aizen's kido that does power null is only usable on enemies that are significantly weaker than him.



Not the only thing, but they are certainly a huge reason as to why he would take the W.


But with how they butchered Ichigo's stats, scaling and abilities, anything is possible for DB.
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i agree with this reasoning


Malomtek said:
My rational mind is expecting Galactus vs Unicron, or something of that caliber. I don't expect even Death Battle to end a season with something "weak", although the shittiness of their 150th episode does leave me worrying.

My devious mind is hoping for Son Goku vs Pegasus Seiya, just for the spectacle and sheer unintentional troll-factor of seeing Goku get spanked a third time.
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They'll probably think unicron wins.

But if we're going by vsbw. Galactus wins simply via dimensional tiering low 1-A > 1-B

though i'm suprised unicron got buffed.
 
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