DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Arceus0x]

I didn't find it funny that you weren't scared, there's your misconception. I found the irony of the statement funny.

No, I was making a simple joke. Do you want to continue over-reading me?

I am not trying to over-read you I am trying to understand the irony. Is it just that an internet nerd called others internet nerds?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Ngl I don't like the sonic scaling here on vsbw. I think anyone who isn't powered by 7 chaos emeralds is around the tier 6 area and super forms and such are 2-A to Low 1-C at most. I don't really trust the whole hyper-timelines thingamabob

I respect your opinion, but what about the Paradox Prism/Phantom Ruby feats? Or the Final Egg Blaster? Those are non-Chaos Emerald things that get way higher than Tier 6.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Is it just that an internet nerd called others internet nerds?

Yeah that's literally it, I admit my humor is a tad dry

I genuinely wasn't trying to go at you or anything, my tangent was just in the same message as my reply to you. If it came off any other way, or if you took it in a negative way, then I apologize and want to clear up the misunderstanding.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

She got turned into a block with the death egg

No she didn’t. She’s still alive. We see her in the post fight scene

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Classic man d is gonna complain about this regardless

 

[Arceus0x]

I respect your opinion, but what about the Paradox Prism/Phantom Ruby feats? Or the Final Egg Blaster? Those are non-Chaos Emerald things that get way higher than Tier 6.

I ain't saying they aren't somewhere higher, I am not a big sonic fan, I basically know f-all about the mainline 3D games. I'm just saying I think putting someone like Tangle in tier 2 is way too weird

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

The discord is apparently responding well.

 

[Arceus0x]

Yeah that's literally it, I admit my humor is a tad dry

I genuinely wasn't trying to go at you or anything, my tangent was just in the same message as my reply to you. If it came off any other way, or if you took it in a negative way, then I apologize and want to clear up the misunderstanding.

Nah no need to apologize, I didn't take it badly either I was just having a go at it as well. Sorry if I bothered ya too.

 

[Livinmeme]

I think DB should do what they did here and not use gorey deaths. I get that this is death battle but like, a death can be elegant. If characters are known to be brutal then its fair but when they aren't? I'd really prefer to see something closer to a dragon ball death.

What about the time Vegeta gored a saiba-men?

 

[WCMM]

Absolutely stellar episode. Wish we could have seen full versions of those alternate scenarios though, those looked dope.

Sage is totally going to bring back her father and brother.

 

[Arceus0x]

What about the time Vegeta gored a saiba-men?

I was thinking more of the classic evaporated by beam scenes. Basically stuff that is dignified. Gore just takes away from the immersion of the fights.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I respect your opinion, but what about the Paradox Prism/Phantom Ruby feats? Or the Final Egg Blaster? Those are non-Chaos Emerald things that get way higher than Tier 6.

I mean ngl they probably dont intend base characters scale to those feats.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Nah no need to apologize, I didn't take it badly either I was just having a go at it as well. Sorry if I bothered ya too.

No man, have a go at it, you're all good lol. Much love

 

[SamanPatou]

This episode was A M A Z I N G. The animation gave me real shivers, emotions and tension unlike any other before. Hands down best episode ever, who even cares about the result at this point. The track also skyrockets in the olympus of DB's music.
So many things to keep track of, so many turns of event, so many interactions, the expressivity of the characters, all of this was amazing, one hell of a ride.

 

[Redite250]

You know, now that the episode is out of the oven I really think this is the peak model Death Battle. No unnecessary gore, it's completely in tone for both series and I think seeing eggman get splattered would really have taken a bit of the episode's quality, I hope they go with things like this for the future and save gory deaths for series that make sense for it like Mortal Kombat or Invincible. This is probably the best death battle ever tbh, everything is just so... peak

 

[Arceus0x]

Will say though I am disappointed by the next lineup. DB will probably make enough money to make 50 new seasons off of it but at the same time I just wanna see some of the cooler matches ya know. Instead we will be getting a tier 9 match at most and its not even between interesting tier 9 characters

 

[Dust_Collector]

God I can't recall the last DB episode that had me watching the animation several times in a row like this

 

[ShakeResounding]

I'm just saying I think putting someone like Tangle in tier 2 is way too weird

Okay I actually 1000% agree with you and it's my main reason why I wished they kept IDW separate. IDW being "Game Sonic but Tier 8-6 and SoL/FTL" was heavily appealing to me because it allowed people to have a more grounded Sonic and could dump all the baggage of planetary-stellar arguments for the Base cast

 

[Chianli]

I do like how they had alternate scenarios not only to fit in bits of animation that wouldn't flow well with the main fight but also as a "Hey here's what would've happened if they did this instead" to show outcomes and the counters to different strategies visually as well.

sadly, one guy ain't too happy 'bout it being JUST alt scenarios.

 

[SuperMarioGamers3]

God I can't recall the last DB episode that had me watching the animation several times in a row like this

they gave bowser the RESPECT he deserves.

 

[Arceus0x]

You know, now that the episode is out of the oven I really think this is the peak model Death Battle. No unnecessary gore, it's completely in tone for both series and I think seeing eggman get splattered would really have taken a bit of the episode's quality, I hope they go with things like this for the future and save gory deaths for series that make sense for it like Mortal Kombat or Invincible. This is probably the best death battle ever tbh, everything is just so... peak

I had two fave battles before, that being Goro vs Machamp (animation, battle direction, music ect) and Kirby vs Buu (the fight felt like a SMBZ fight which is hype) and now I can proudly add this one to the big 3.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

God I can't recall the last DB episode that had me watching the animation several times in a row like this

GVS3's final sequence I've watched at least a hundred times deadass

 

[Tipper17]

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Bro the memes have been exquisite

 

[Arceus0x]

Okay I actually 1000% agree with you and it's my main reason why I wished they kept IDW separate. IDW being "Game Sonic but Tier 8-6 and SoL/FTL" was heavily appealing to me because it allowed people to have a more grounded Sonic and could dump all the baggage of planetary-stellar arguments for the Base cast

I love when a verse has a tier 7-6 side to it cause it leaves room for fun calcs. When its all tier 2 it just feels bland.

 

[Dust_Collector]

The IDW comics are so wierd in regards to the scale, like I play the games and buy that base characters could beat saiyan saga characters no issue, then I read the comics and as much as I love them, I can't imagine the likes of Tangle hanging with the old man version of King Piccolo

 

[TMaakkonen]

Id like to agree with Arceus0x's sentiment, but I feel like if I did some digging thered be vs shit just as bad as current VSW base Sonic character stats that Arceus0x thinks are fine sentimentally, surely not all T2 shit are bad

 

[Redite250]

Will say though I am disappointed by the next lineup. DB will probably make enough money to make 50 new seasons off of it but at the same time I just wanna see some of the cooler matches ya know. Instead we will be getting a tier 9 match at most and its not even between interesting tier 9 characters

Honestly, I like the next time for the meme of it but like what the hell even is that matchup? Tf is fall guy gonna do? There were so many more interesting battles from the vote like uuh idk Sans vs Judge or whatever, and honestly those two games aren't even hyped atm

 

[Tapkmiz]

I kneel. I have nothing to say. I just kneel.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Yeah, there is one curious thing. Is Fall Guys the brickest brick of all time in DB? Does he have any abilities & equipment?

 

[Dust_Collector]

It's great that it's confirmed that if they ever did Metal Sonic vs Cell for some reason, the bug man is getting folded like laundry lmao.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Yeah also wtf, Fall Guys Vs Amogus? Really?

I almost wanna shit on this DB just for that /s

 

[Gyra1524]

 

[Dust_Collector]

Yeah, there is one curious thing. Is Fall Guys the brickest brick of all time in DB? Does he have any abilities & equipment?

I genuinely do not think they have a single ability outside of superhuman characteristics

 

[Loh67867]

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

It's great that it's confirmed that if they ever did Metal Sonic vs Cell for some reason, the bug man is getting folded like laundry lmao.

Boundless Nappa scaling

 

[Redite250]

Yeah, there is one curious thing. Is Fall Guys the brickest brick of all time in DB? Does he have any abilities & equipment?

Maybe he has thick durability from surviving getting knocked around or something, or maybe the Fall Guys lore goes hard and he's fall guyversal or something

 

[Tahoy49574]

Sonic scales higher here than most other scaling circles due to the site ecosystem and other shit.

Ngl, it's pretty bold of the site to have an accuracy thread

 

[Arceus0x]

Id like to agree with Arceus0x's sentiment, but I feel like if I did some digging thered be vs shit just as bad as current VSW base Sonic character stats that Arceus0x thinks are fine sentimentally, surely not all T2 shit are bad

I think there's one that you can count as vshit here and that'd be pokemon. I think the current legendary ratings are for the most part correct and I think that in many cases scaling trainers to legendaries despite the discrepancies is correct. There's just some much inconsistent shit in pokemon that if you don't give it leeway then its literally impossible to scale. You effectively scale by chosing the lesser of two evils.

 

[koopa3144]