DDLC Speed Downgrades

[SSBXeno573]

The current justification is:

"Infinite (Could keep moving and acting despite time not flowing anymore and after the game's deletion for extended periods of time)".

However, I have some problems with this. Firstly, the void fits none of the criteria for Timeless Voids Standards. Giving her infinite speed for this would be like giving infinite speed for Zen'o

I could see Time Stop Resistance at best.

TL;DR: Infinite speed is justified and they should be downgraded to Normal Human level.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I agree with the downgrade

 

[DMB_1]

It's because the entire game, which is made up of multiple spacetimes was completely destroyed.

 

[SSBXeno573]

It's because the entire game, which is made up of multiple spacetimes was completely destroyed.

Ok... how does that justify infinite speed?

 

[DMB_1]

Because she was able to exist and move without spacetime.

 

[SSBXeno573]

Because she was able to exist and move without spacetime.

Many characters are able to do that. Dimentio, Zeno etc. Do they have infinite speed? No, because said void doesn't follow any of the criteria in Timeless Voids Standards.

 

[SSBXeno573]

Unless you're suggesting they too should get infinite speed. We can't have double standards.

 

[DMB_1]

It's because the WoV actually does have time, and it would be an outlier for many characters to suddenly have gained infinite speed. Same thing for the destroyed future. In fact, they still time-traveled to the destroyed timeline.

Then again, infinite speed is one of the most case-to-case based things in fiction, so I don't know that much about it.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Dunno why they don't have Infinite, as DMB says there's a few criteria, but Monika pretty blatantly said she didn't know whether time even existed and was still able to act. Infinite is justified.

 

[Jobbo]

Well. she does know. She pretty clearly states that time doesn't exist anymore when you try to fast forward.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So yeah. Infinite is fine.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

The Demon Realm has been stated to be outside time and a place where time doesn't exist a million times and that never went through

 

[Jobbo]

It should have. The fact that it's listed as an example of Type 2 is bunk.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

It was even said it should be considered type 1, and majority staff agreed with it. But for some reason it ended up as type 2

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Not really here to debate other verses. Just saying DDLC fits Infinite criteria.

 

[Jobbo]

Well, type 3. Type 1 is false voids.

Anyway, Bambu's right. It's a matter for another thread.

 

[SSBXeno573]

Dunno why they don't have Infinite, as DMB says there's a few criteria, but Monika pretty blatantly said she didn't know whether time even existed and was still able to act. Infinite is justified.

That's one out of the main three. Many characters fit this criteria yet don't have infinite speed. You need more than acting in a timeless realm to qualify based on what i've read/seen.

I don't mind if this is infinite speed. I really don't. But i do have a problem with having double standards.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So you're downgrading DDLC based on other verses context.

I'm closing this since this was universally rejected except by Zach, who tells me he really hates DDLC. If you'd like to upgrade other verses, feel free to make another thread for them.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Reopened, briefly, as Xeno wants Assalt to chip in. That said, I pray to some greater power that there is better evidence aside from comparing to Dragon Ball and "well why didn't they get that treatment".

 

[Schnee_One]

Zach showing bias again?

 

[SSBXeno573]

@Bambu

Actually, you can close this. I'll accept it as rejected.