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Idk why that's still need to be questioned, but yeah.
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Infinite-sized DC Comics universes
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The Source Wall exists on multiple dimensions, including the edge of individual universes.
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Scans?
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The one near the Promethean galaxy?
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The promethean galaxy is not stated to be literally a galaxy that's part of the universe as well
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I know. I was asking Firestorm to see if he was talking about the same thing
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Oh, that oneI think he's referring to this
Does the green lantern scan talk about this source wall or the main one?
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The one that features that giant dude? (I keep forgetting his name. Eos or some shit like that)
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While the Main Source Wall surrounds the entire DC Multiverse, separating it from the Overvoid. Versions of it also exist around universes.
- Countdown Vol 1 #39, August 2007
- Death of the New Gods Vol 1 #6, April 2008
- Green Lantern: The Lost Army Vol 1 #6, January 2016
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The Green Lantern comic doesn't mention or show anything about the source wall.
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Then why did you mention it when I asked for scans
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Scan doesn't work for me.
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I have updated it.
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When I said, "The 3600 Sectors don't touch the Source Wall," you asked why.
I answered that a comic (Green Lantern Vol 4 #11 June 2006) had the Lanterns travel past the 3600 sectors, and they did not encounter the source wall. There was more relatively empty space to travel.
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This scan doesn't work.
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We should, its been referenced and confirmed to be canon
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this is from where?
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DC Guidebook
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In any case, there are other comics I can reference. I'm sure that I have established that a Source Wall does surround the universes.
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I mean I ahgree but it's messy
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I am so lost on the current discussion, what is going on here?
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In regards to how big a singular universe in DC is, I'm showing that the Source Wall is a defined limit.
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Infinity can have a limit. If it didn't, then there wouldn't be higher infinities
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The Source Wall is at the edge, yes, but it's not a proper physical wall per se. It covers an entire space time continuum. It's the wall between two universe. It doesn't contradict infinite space.
It's a higher D structure, so seeing an infinity as less of infinity isn't a contradiction you think it is.
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I mean there are degrees of infinity right
It’s possible for one thing to be infinite and yet dwarfed by a higher infinity
that’s also ignoring the higher dimensional properties of the Source Wall which makes it less a physical barrier and more an incorporeal one
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The source wall that exists within the universe isn't the same as the one that blocks off the source and is beyond dimensions
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I agree with DC universes being infinite because there's many statements about it and it's also very consistent. There's only one statement that contradicts it afaik (100 trillion light years being half of the universe) and it comes from Superman who isn't a major cosmic being or very knowledgeable about universes.
Source Walls are higher-dimensional constructs that covers the entire 4-D spacetime continuums, so it doesn't contradict 3-D infinite space.
Source Walls are higher-dimensional constructs that covers the entire 4-D spacetime continuums, so it doesn't contradict 3-D infinite space.
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Agree too.
For the travel speed feats thought i'm conflicted, since Infinite Speed its still a large upgrade and it is technically inconsistent for most showing.
Personally i would have the characters at Massively FTL+, possibly Infinite as a good compromise.
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I agree with this rating.
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In Justice League Annual 1 (2018) it was stated that universe is infinite and expanding (scan is in the op). We can use that for Post-Flashpoint universes. Tbh i think that statement should be enough because it comes from narrator in a very cosmology-related issue and definitely isn't flowery language.
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Yeah this makes sense, I agree
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To play devil's advocate here are some scans that imply DC Universes may have finite 3-D space
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How so?
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A lot of them says far reaches - which don't mean edge of the universe. Far reaches can mean unknown distance. Or comes from people who don't know the universe as well as they think they do.
Especially Superboy. Yes, he is a genius in many ways, but the cosmos isn't one of them - at least not before he became herald of Oracle.
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I agree with infinite sized universe, seems blatant enough
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1: Already refuted
2: Infinity can have sides, imagine 1 infinite line combines with another, now you got 2 sides of it
3: No correlation
4: Same as 1
5: Same as before
6: Same as before
7: There can be corners of infinity for the same reasons there can be an edge to infinity
8, 9, 10, 11: Same as 7
12: Same as 2
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Mostly because to my knowledge we don't really have statements Post-Flashpoint universes are infinite to my knowledge beyond the Phantom Zone. Most of the statements above seem consolidated to Post-Crisis
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