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DC Animated Movie Universe Discussion Thread 2

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This was proposed by a user in one of our VS Battle threads, which is to potentially upgrade the Low 7-C as well as the 8-A+. This comes from a feat in Justice League vs Teen Titans in which Weather Man gets controlled by Trigon and takes hits from Superman. Robin then uses the Bat Plane to fly right into Weather Man which would cause a 3 Kiloton Explosion, which was enough to knock out Weather Man.

I propose that everyone listed as Low 7-C would get a slight upgrade to 3 Kilotons instead on Baseline Low 7-C and all the 8-A+ who can stagger these would get upgraded to Baseline Low 7-C.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
I don't mind it, but I don't know who exactly scales to it other than Superman. Since he's the only one who damaged any of the possessed people as far as I remember.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
I don't mind it, but I don't know who exactly scales to it other than Superman. Since he's the only one who damaged any of the possessed people as far as I remember.
Doomsday and Darkseid would be the only one who directly scales to him. Though my guess is everyone else scales to Flash's 8-A+ feat?
 
Yeah, I don't mind Darkseid and Doomsday scaling (along with the trident and WW's sword), but everyone else has consistently been bodied by Superman level duded in the DCAFU. Like even in this case, Superman casually bodied an amped Flash and Wonder Woman.
 
Well Darkseid and Doomsday are obviously going to be affected anyway. This will be good if someone wants to make a profile for Weather Wizard.
 
While I'm here let me ask something

Why is Starfire 9-A for fighting WW who is several tiers above her going by the pages?
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Yeah, I don't mind Darkseid and Doomsday scaling (along with the trident and WW's sword), but everyone else has consistently been bodied by Superman level duded in the DCAFU. Like even in this case, Superman casually bodied an amped Flash and Wonder Woman.
So my guess is everyone besides Supes, DD and Darkseid will scale to Flash's 8-A feat?
 
Hellbeast1 said:
While I'm here let me ask something
Why is Starfire 9-A for fighting WW who is several tiers above her going by the pages?
Starfire barely was able to damage her, the only time she was able to land hits was when she was distracted, legit the only damage we see being caused is on Titan Tower. Not forget to mention she never destroyed it and only caused visible damage to it which gave her the 9-A rating.
 
So if that's the case don't mention her fighting WW on the page

Also the 8-A would scale to everyone but Supes, DDand Darkseid

I also remember the Supermen making huge craters which could be calced
 
Hellbeast1 said:
So if that's the case don't mention her fighting WW on the page
Also the 8-A would scale to everyone but Supes, DDand Darkseid

I also remember the Supermen making huge craters which could be calced
It says on her page that she was causing damage to Titan Tower while fighting WW and only staggered her, doesn't say she damaged her. It even says that she lost completely.
 
Flash's 8-A feat is non applicable, being both a case of calc stacking and apply KE where none is suggested. To my knowledge at least, it was only used because it was consistent with their current ratings.
 
Starfire might be put to "At least 9-A" if we really want to note her feat about WW (and even then, it should be precised that she was only able to stagger her).
 
I mean, it wasn't calc stacking. We used the lower-end of the feat which DMUA accepted.

I don't think the Justice League are that far behind Superman. Green Lantern harmed Superman with his constructs, Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter both took hits from Doomsday, most of them took hits from Darkseid, and at the very least they wouldn't be weaker than a Kryptonite-weakened Superman who has an 8-B+ feat.
 
I agree, they're not that weaker, at least not members like WW or Aquaman. Maybe At least 8-A for the strongest ?
 
The calc uses the values from a completely separate speed feat to get its KE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is calc stacking. DMUA pointed this out in the blog himself, the only reason he was fine with using it was because it was consistent with other feats.
 
That's the higher end. Using the value for real-life lightning wouldn't make it calc-stacking, since it's a scientifically calculated speed.

Whether it means kinetic energy standards, I'm not sure, especially since iirc they've been changed not too long ago.
 
How does that work? Flash only gets those values from a completely seperate feat. It was to my understanding that you could only use information from outside the specific calc in question when said information is stated outright, like "Flash is legitimately faster than a bolt of lightning" or whatever.

Granted, either way, it doesn't seem to follow our new KE rules.
 
Btw, I want to finish making the profiles for JL Dark, the only one left is Etrigan. Should Etrigan be 9-A scaling from Destiny's first body?
 
I think so. Maybed "At least 9-A, likely higher" ? (i mean, Destiny overpowered him but he was still able to put up a good fight against him so....)
 
Also, in Justice League Dark, there is a feat by Swamp Thing in which he instantly showed up next to Destiny when a tree caught fire. Does this give Swamp Thing Nigh-Omnipresence or Omnipresence since he can appear almost anywhere on the planet?
 
I remember that. Maybe Nigh-Omnipresence since he can appear more or less anywhere from the Green but still should have some degree of limitations.
 
Guys, quick question, in Wonder Woman Bloodlines, there is a scene where WW is resisting Medusa's mind control, though she was getting gradually overpowered. Does this give her Resistance to Mind Manipulation?
 
Possibly. We saw that Medusa can control people to force them to look her in the eyes. From what i remember, Diana managed to resist for some time but she would have succomb had she not decided to burn her own eyes with acid.
 
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