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- Speed Equalized;
- Shen Wulong- At least 88,5 Kilotons of TNT;
- Yujiro Hanma- At least 15,25 Kilotons of TNT;
- Both are in character
- Place of battle: Underground Arena.
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Really?
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Yujiro: 15,25 Kilotons
Shen: 88,5 Kilotons.
The gap appears to be like, 5.8. Can someone explain to be what stops Shen from one shotting?
Shen: 88,5 Kilotons.
The gap appears to be like, 5.8. Can someone explain to be what stops Shen from one shotting?
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In fact, it's not that scary.
While Shen is ridiculously stronger than 88 KT, but is still capable of receiving serious injuries from characters of this level, being relaxed, Yujiro has gone far beyond 15 KT
Not only does he have the Back of a Demon, which improves his stats so much that the characters who were his in normal form become simply helpless against him, but he is also getting stronger every day.
Yujiro is much stronger than himself, who accomplished the feat of 15 KT. I will say more, half of the characters in the verse surpassed that version of him, and he is now above all of them.
So the AP difference is not as big as it might seem.
However, Shen has much more experience and looks at things like pre-initiative as child's play.
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For one shot, you need to have a difference of 7.5x. And also Yujiro's layers are much higher than his 15 KT feat. So much higher that the current Yujiro would probably oneshot his earlier version
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Shen also has his own Statistics Amps and Momentum Manipulation.
Maybe increase the starting Distance so Yujiro has more time to buff himself?
Maybe increase the starting Distance so Yujiro has more time to buff himself?
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The fight takes place in character, so Shen will definitely let Yujiro prove himself. What happens when Yujiro starts copying the point of power and principles?Yujiro tries to punch Shen and Shen just grazes him on his cheek to instantly knock him out like he did with the Bodyguards. Any physical attacks can just get negged with Point of Force redirection, and Shen can read Yujiro's every move like an open book.
He's cooked.
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Shen is in character, so he will give Yujiro the opportunity to show himself, as it was with Mukaku
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Yujiro has copied moves only one (1) time, and that was in New Grappler Baki, and the move he copied he never uses again. It's not an in-character decision. Shen would probably still be better than him anyways.
Not to mention, Yujiro wouldn't interest Shen in the same way Mukaku interested Shen. Mukaku spent decades planning and training just for the opportunity to kill Shen, which is what amused him. Yujiro's just an ass, so Shen would just be annoyed at his arrogance.
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Ok then. I am still am leaning towards Shen due to more experience, and Stats Amp, while already being much stronger.
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Though Xiao Lee and Attack Reflection might be able to do something.
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Yujiro exudes an aura like Shen, and is also ridiculously strong, much stronger than the value to which he scales. This is more than enough to interest Shen, who is interested in Kuroki, who is an Orochi Doppo 2.0
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Playing Devils Advocate for Yujiro again, does Shen have any answer to Yujiro's fear hax? Which happens on the Celluar Level
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He didn't stand there and let Kuroki amp himself when he became interested in Kuroki. If he sees Yujiro as close to his level, he's going to attack.
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Shen should have fear resistance (that should probably be layered), but the profile is really bad, so it's not there quite yet. Either way, the aura has never functioned on anyone near Yujiro's level, so it's just a harassment tactic for weak randoms.
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It happens at the Celluar Level. He need resistance to something like Biological Manipulation to overcome it
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Yujiro is many times superior in terms of hax, and the difference in strength shouldn't mean anything(at least because of Shaori, which even when performed by bum Shunsei cancels damage completely, and afterwards he just needs to give all the damage back to Shen). Wulong doesn't have anything to counter soul manipulation
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Even Beginning of Asura Ohma's casual bloodlust can awaken a man's dormant survival instincts and force him to reproduce without him even knowing it, biological fear hax is nothing special.
No, he's not. Anything Yujiro can do on his profile, Shen can also do it.
Basic redirection kata level feat.
Not soul manipulation. He just knocked them out. Literally says as much in the panel.
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Shen FRA
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He also has non-physical attacks such as vibration manipulation (he literally damaged a building with it), nothing prevents him from directly targeting Wulong's organs, such as the heart, creating resonance(which according to the wiki can also be destructive) and destroying it from the inside out
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Building level vibrations vs Town level character.
Shen either moves his organs out of the way, negates the force of the blow with redirection, or just dodges it with his vastly superior analytical prediction.
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No, Itagaki always draws it consistently, Musashi losing his soul(literally dying after kissing Tokugawa's sister) lets out the exact same thing
Proves
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We're talking about dura of the insides, many fighters have trump card attacks with a similar principle
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He could move them, but not remove them completely, Yujiro was spreading his aura literally across the entire skyscraper at an insane frequency
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Read your own scans. Every Boxer in Baki who knocks a person out doesn't have Soul Manipulation.
Yujiro literally hasn't even DONE that before with his vibrations. It's just him making things shake when he's angry— there was literally a guy standing in the room when he made the building shake and he was completely fine.
Yujiro isn't damaging Shen's organs with his aura to begin with. Straight wank.
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He doesn't have soul manip on his profile. So I don't even think that can be used here unless you do a CRT
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It's a simple comparison, but nevertheless, in the baki universe there's the Ki energy that Nomi no Sukune uses to damage souls, we also have the moment where Hanayama kills a soul with a single punch (and none of those blows actually do any damage to Yujiro's soul).
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First one is purification, which isn't a soul attack, second one is Non-Physical Interaction for being able to punch disembodied souls. Either way, nobody in Baki hurts each other's soul when they fight. This ain't soul eater.
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Is it? I actually remember such an RCT discussing soul manipulations, however, if feats outside of the profile are allowed, I'll take heed
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Yujiro has too big a scaling chain for it to be a stomp
15 KT > casually Yujiro >>>> serious Yujiro > Doppo Orochi > Katsumi > Retsu >>>>>> early Jack >>>>>>>>> Pickle Arch Jack >>>>>> Pickle > Baki > Yujiro Son of Ogre >>>>>>>>>>> The current Yujiro >>>>>>> The Back of the Demon
15 KT > casually Yujiro >>>> serious Yujiro > Doppo Orochi > Katsumi > Retsu >>>>>> early Jack >>>>>>>>> Pickle Arch Jack >>>>>> Pickle > Baki > Yujiro Son of Ogre >>>>>>>>>>> The current Yujiro >>>>>>> The Back of the Demon
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Multipliers work strangely in Bakiverse If Baki in Prison has 7-C, then Demon Back has 30 KT, which is how Olive scales. Scale scale Sukune is higher than Olive, but was easily defeated by Baki, so that the current Baki DB scales above 60 KT. Yujiro is much higher than that
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In fact, the size of the chain matters, so the difference in AR can always be significantly reduced by this
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