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Cole MacGrath Electricity discussion

TeenAngel101

TeenAngel101

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I just wanted to make a couple of statements about Cole regarding his electricity.

1.Cole is immune to electricity. Not resistant, immune. Cole has been electrocuted several times, and shown no sign of damage or even discomfort. The only reason that Kessler's Lightning affected him was because Cole's Lightning can injure foes immune to electricity, and Kessler is Cole's future self. I mean, think about it, why would the same thing that powers him and heals him hurt him?

2.Cole's electricity can injure foes immune to electricity. Shown in his fights with Kessler, his own future self, and David Warner, a frickin' electricity-vampire who lived solely on the stuff.

3.Cole is immune to having his energy siphoned or drained by Electrokinetic enemies. Again shown when Kessler uses Bio Leech on him in their fight after he overpowers him, and he lost no energy. He was also in the grasp of David repeatedly in their fights. Note that David was a electro-vampire and could instantly siphon the electricity completely from a human by TOUCHING them, and Cole was in his grasp repeatedly for long periods of time, yet he was still able to fight him with everything he had. He wouldn't have been able to do that unless he LOST NO ENERGY.

4.Finally, Cole's energy storage. This one is a little difficult to determine, but I measured it using a power from inFAMOUS 1, the Gigawatt Blades. When Cole activates them, they consume three battery cores. Now, since their called the GIGAWATT BLADES, that can be that they are comprised of that much energy. Since he makes TWO Blades every time, that means each blade is comprised of a Gigawatt, meaning Cole uses two Gigawatts of energy. Three battery cores are two Gigawatts of energy, and with the fully collected Blast Shard upgrade, his maximum battery core storage is 28 battery cores. That means Cole's maximum voltage and energy storage for two Gigawatts with every three cores is... 20 Gigawatts. Now, keep in mind, a SINGLE Gigawatt is 1 billion volts of energy and can power 700,000 homes for five years.

And that's it. Everyone please let me know what you think of these.
 
1) That doesn't constitute immunity, it just constitutes resistance. If someone shocked him with a 9 Quadrillion volt lightning bolt (not that this would be naturally possible), it's highly likely that he would be fried given that it's far above anything he's experienced.

2) He could be simply overwhelming their own resistance rather than immunity. If you're immune, that connotes the ability to be capable of dealing with any amount of electricity and thus Cole's attacks wouldn't do anything no matter how much voltage he puts in.

3) Again, resistance. There are much more powerful vampires in fiction who are able to do stuff like this.

4) Not sure what to make of this last one. However, according to the Infamous Wiki, it's a pre-order bonus and DLC content. Thus it's not part of the story of the game or Cole's naturally gained powers.
 
The Gigawatt blades are actually legit. He used them in the comics. And did argue a case for that in another site but I'm not sure if that's the right value.

Resistances are standard and agreeable although I think it's a very high level of resistance considering Cole absorbs lightning bolts from storms, so wouldn't that also give off heat resistance? Guy gets manhandled by a giant flaming Doctor Manhattan after all.
 
@TeenAngel101

What about my statements does not make sense? Immunity is a very strong word on this site. Being able to withstand something beyond any normal human doesn't make you immune, it just makes you resistant. Immunity is an absolute, resistance is not.

@Core

I don't know a thing about Infamous, so any scans with these Gigawatt blades would be greatly appreciated.

As for Heat Resistance, it would probably only have to do with electricity-based heat, since he can still be hurt by explosions and such, right?
 
@TeenAngel101

Comic book inconsistency is rampant and you can't use examples from other franchises to make your argument when you're talking about Infamous unless it's to explain something.

The amount of energy in twenty gigawatts of lightning is nothing compared to any comic book Superman's feats and it's only being done for drama here.
 
The Beast was made of FIRE AND LAVA and he crushed Cole between his molten hot hands. Also, the Beast can throw a 1,000 Ton statue across a city with one hand effortlessly. Cole was also able to easily resist toxic acid from the Corrupted that can melt through cars and steel. The Gigawatt Blades are also able to cut through electrically resistant enemies such as David Warner, who also shrugged off a block-busting missile like nothing. Cole also was able to survive being at Ground Zero of the Ray Sphere Blast, which vaporized all the thousands of people in it's path and even his own future self was afraid he wasn't going to survive.
 
@Reppuzan I'll find a scan of it but not right now, in a rush.

And well not really. Guy took on MCB explosion early on when he unlocked his power and recovered pretty easily. Nowadays he just shrugs off explosions.

https://youtu.be/N-9QgtkqXv8?t=436

He's being crushed too while he's at it.

@Teen

Don't use feats from another verse for one verse
 
@TeenAngel101

First off, calm down. I'm not trying to agitate you, but you asked someone to evaluate your points and I'm giving my honest criticism and opinion

Second, I don't know anything about Infamous, so you'll have to treat me as a newbie and give me all the details so I can make a fair judgment.

Third, it does sound like he has resistance to heat, but not so much that he'd be unaffected by missiles and rockets. His feat of withstanding the Beast's attacks would make it notable enough to add to his profile.

The statue throwing feat will have to be evaluated by a calc team member.

As for the acid, are you sure that he's canonically tanked it and didn't just dodge it?

What's the Ray Sphere Blast? Being more durable than ordinary people isn't much of a durability feat without context.
 
@Teen

Gonna agree with Reppuzan and go this on you -->

Take it easy man
But all kidding aside, seriously, calm down.

@Reppuzan

Actually for some cases on the acid he had to hold up the jaws of a Devourer, which is the heaviest monster in game probably next to Beast or equal as tanks.

The Ray Sphere blast varies but the strongest one wiped out the city, while the one he was subjected to at base form blew apart Multiple City blocks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Te2CrQsjE


And the Statue feat is pretty standard, should be in the video I linked above but earlier.
 
If want my opinion, damaging with electricity a someone supposed to be inmune to electricity sound kinda contradictory, what I can say is that: the electricity isn't electricity at all, that other guy has a weakness or he isn't inmune to electricty at all, just resistent.

About the Gigawatt blade, if it say that produce 20 Gigawatt of power, that is just a little higher than the average power output of a lightning, but since he convert it in blades, that would be unquantificable, would be needed to watch some scans.
 
@COB, that scan don't tell me much tho, would need something like: "blades can cut through X meters of Y metal" or something similar.

@Teen, to be fair, electricity ignores conventional durability, however, some lightnings aren't quatificable in fiction, and I remember Superman resisting and even no sell against lightnings several times; better drop the topic about Superman, and come back to Cole.
 
@Core

That feat in and of itself would probably top out around the higher end of Wall level at best, but I'm going to leave that evaluation to the calc group.
 
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