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Cell vs Buzzwole 2

what
what the heck?
transcend physics? Bro tf you smoking?
They can punch holes in space, that is all they can do, they have never shown to transcend physics and if they did they'd be like high 3-A for being higher dimensional or sth
 
no...it would not. It's not like they can just erase someone out of space, it is just a hole in space, essentially the same as a normal strong punch. The only possible argument is a theoretical bfr that idk if it will work. Either way Cell stomps with hax and this is gonna be outtdated due to tier upgrades very soon
 
if you can recreate your complete body from a singular cell and you get shot through the gut you can regenerate it easily. Space manipulation just makes the hole stay in that place so all you do is just move
 
wait I just noticed that I never completed the argument here

1. Buzzwole drinks Cell like Cell drinks people

uhh, Cell could just drink him right back. Buzzwole has nothing in his arsenal capable of negating Cell's regen other than drinking
Plus, Buzzwole's drinking doesn't even make sense. IIRC he drank Snorlax in the anime, but all Snorlax had to do was eat a few berries (which don't have insane regenerative properties) and he was pretty much good as new.

2. Cell doesn't passively grow in power

Yes he does. You listed a bunch of examples where it didn't happen, while I listed examples where it did happen. Why do you then automatically assume it must NOT happen?
Plus, Saiyans do get stronger in the midst of battle. In the ToP, both Goku and Vegeta were constantly breaking their limits despite not actually being near death in any scenario. Even when Goku was exhausted and injured, he was still much stronger than he was at the beginning of the ToP, only about 20-30 minutes, just from constantly breaking his limits. And he's considered a Saiyan with one of the least levels of potentials. Every other Saiyan in the verse (Gohan, Goten, Kid Trunks, Future Trunks, Cell) has shown far higher levels of potential than Goku and Vegeta have. They had to train their asses off in the Cell Saga just to be able to keep up with Cell, and he was able to surpass them every time with no training whatsoever, only through absorption. Plus, he has Frieza's cells, and you know how strong he can become. Goten and Trunks at the ages of 8 and 9 respectively became so powerful just from regular training that they were stronger than their fathers were in the Cell Saga, approaching Teen Gohan in power, despite not even mastering the Super Saiyan form. Gohan and Trunks were able to reach 3A levels of power despite never going through the God Ritual, only through grit and effort. And don't even get me started on Broly, he's the concept of Saiyans adapting in the middle of battle

Overall, Buzzwole's ONLY advantage is AP, which isn't even enough to 1 shot even wITHOUT factoring in Cell's regen (assuming I'm not stupid and I compared the numbers right, it's only a 2.7 times difference, and that's even before you consider the fact that the 4B feat is Necrozma's, and he is much stronger than Buzzwole iirc). His moves aren't enough to put Cell down for good, since he has nothing that can destroy every cell in his body, plus he doesn't have anything to specifically target his core Cell. Not to mention that Cell is smarter, more versatile, has more range, has more hax, can absorb him right back, and has limitless power boosts.

I don't see how Buzzwole wins here. He would have to drain him so fast and so thoroughly that nothing would be left, which I find extremely unlikely to happen
 
Mickey1940 said:
wait I just noticed that I never completed the argument here

1. Buzzwole drinks Cell like Cell drinks people

uhh, Cell could just drink him right back. Buzzwole has nothing in his arsenal capable of negating Cell's regen other than drinking
Plus, Buzzwole's drinking doesn't even make sense. IIRC he drank Snorlax in the anime, but all Snorlax had to do was eat a few berries (which don't have insane regenerative properties) and he was pretty much good as new.

2. Cell doesn't passively grow in power

Yes he does. You listed a bunch of examples where it didn't happen, while I listed examples where it did happen. Why do you then automatically assume it must NOT happen?
Plus, Saiyans do get stronger in the midst of battle. In the ToP, both Goku and Vegeta were constantly breaking their limits despite not actually being near death in any scenario. Even when Goku was exhausted and injured, he was still much stronger than he was at the beginning of the ToP, only about 20-30 minutes, just from constantly breaking his limits. And he's considered a Saiyan with one of the least levels of potentials. Every other Saiyan in the verse (Gohan, Goten, Kid Trunks, Future Trunks, Cell) has shown far higher levels of potential than Goku and Vegeta have. They had to train their asses off in the Cell Saga just to be able to keep up with Cell, and he was able to surpass them every time with no training whatsoever, only through absorption. Plus, he has Frieza's cells, and you know how strong he can become. Goten and Trunks at the ages of 8 and 9 respectively became so powerful just from regular training that they were stronger than their fathers were in the Cell Saga, approaching Teen Gohan in power, despite not even mastering the Super Saiyan form. Gohan and Trunks were able to reach 3A levels of power despite never going through the God Ritual, only through grit and effort. And don't even get me started on Broly, he's the concept of Saiyans adapting in the middle of battle

Overall, Buzzwole's ONLY advantage is AP, which isn't even enough to 1 shot even wITHOUT factoring in Cell's regen (assuming I'm not stupid and I compared the numbers right, it's only a 2.7 times difference, and that's even before you consider the fact that the 4B feat is Necrozma's, and he is much stronger than Buzzwole iirc). His moves aren't enough to put Cell down for good, since he has nothing that can destroy every cell in his body, plus he doesn't have anything to specifically target his core Cell. Not to mention that Cell is smarter, more versatile, has more range, has more hax, can absorb him right back, and has limitless power boosts.

I don't see how Buzzwole wins here. He would have to drain him so fast and so thoroughly that nothing would be left, which I find extremely unlikely to happen
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He uses confusion and cell kills himself
 
Garchomp777 said:
He uses confusion and cell kills himself
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how would he kill himself

The only way he can is by self-destructing, and that isn't gonna work

Punching himself in the face isn't gonna work

Blasting himself isn't gonna work

Plus once Confusion wears off, now Cell has a free x2 attack boost. Cell can just continuously regenerate himself to heal off the damage and then he can murder Buzzwole
 
Mickey1940 said:
how would he kill himself

The only way he can is by self-destructing, and that isn't gonna work

Punching himself in the face isn't gonna work

Blasting himself isn't gonna work

Plus once Confusion wears off, now Cell has a free x2 attack boost. Cell can just continuously regenerate himself to heal off the damage and then he can murder Buzzwole
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Damn so cell claps
Unless buzzwole adapts and realises it needs to erase space to erase cell
 
Buzzwole is gonna be 3-C cause scaling to necrozma. Necrozma's lighting up the universe feat got re calculated and accepted and soon to be applied. The old calc was based on some random scientific study or sth i don't remember, either way it got recalculated and accepted off-blog
 
Arceus0x said:
Buzzwole is gonna be 3-C cause scaling to necrozma. Necrozma's lighting up the universe feat got re calculated and accepted and soon to be applied. The old calc was based on some random scientific study or sth i don't remember, either way it got recalculated and accepted off-blog
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It actually scales to the general "lighting up the solar system" feat that green lantern planet thing did. I forgot his name

But alright. Someone close the thread
 
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