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This is the official thread for requesting calcs to be done by the members of the Calc Group and other senior editors.

However, this help is entirely optional, and the people who do the requesting cannot expect that anybody will somehow be automatically interested in doing the requested calcs.

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Importance/Priority: 3 (scales to the top tiers of the verse with a massive buff to AP and speed

Name of Verse: DCAU

Description of Feat:

In Justice League vs The Fatal Five, Emerald Empress sends her Emerald Eye, which had just absorbed all the energy within the Green Lantern Power Battery, from Earth's surface to the Sun to blow it up/tear it apart, stating it would take it 3 minutes to reach there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00_m6kSiZw

After Jessica Cruz (Newest Human Green Lantern) frees the League from the Five's bonds, Superman flies from Earths Surface to the Sun before the Eye has reacahed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00_m6kSiZw&t=188s Conservative estimates suggest that at the absolute most it took him only 3 minutes for him to do this, and considering that both the 3 minute timeframe was given to the eye specifically and that Superman was being held captive before Jessica freed him from the Five, he more than likely took less than 3 minutes to fly from Earth's surface to the Sun.

That should be easy enough to calc, however the most impressive part of this feat was that Superman comes just short of catching the Eye before it detonates in his face; the explosion is quite big if I don't say so myself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00_m6kSiZw&t=242s

Both Antvasima and I would greatly appreciate if one of you can calc how powerful that explosion was.
Priority: 3

Verse: Conan the Barbarian

Description: In my thread, I argued since Hercules is considered 9-A because of toppling a big statue I argued since Conan has several similar feats of strength he should be as well. However, Antvasima requested to have some proper calculations before anything can be determined.

So you can pick a feat (or feats) from above which you can calculate to see just how good they are.

Antvasima and I would appreciate the help very much.
Priority: 2 (scales to all god-tiers of the verse)

Verse: Red vs Blue

Description: Atlus destroys the Moo of a planet with a similar environment to Earth. This scales to the other Cosmic Powers, as well as the strength of Chrovos, who they needed to band together to defeat. The feat itself is eerily similar (read: practically the same) to another Moon-shattering feat from the God of Darkness in RWBY, but I'm unsure if there are any variables I don't see that might change the exact scale of Atlus' feat.
Priority: 2 (Scales to RotS top tiers and those beyond them, most notably Darth Sidious)

Verse: Star Wars (EU)


- Darth Sidious shakes and flares the stars upon killing Darth Plagueis. > "Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world's core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves." > "Yellow eyes lifted to the night sky, he saw the trembling stars flare, and in the depth of his being he felt the power of the dark side anoint him."

- He also causes the constellations to reform. > "His eyes sought and found an ascending constellation of stars, one of power and consequence new to the sky, though soon to be overwhelmed by dawn's first light." > "To some the stars and planets might seem to be moving as ever, destined to align in configurations calculated long before their fiery births. But in fact the heavens had been perturbed, tugged by dark matter into novel alignments."

These feats have been in use for a while, but I think it'd be nice if they could have calcs backing them up.
Priority: Would scale main character and upscale others in the future

Verse: Heart Gear

Feat: Reacting to artillery fire at close range and casually tanking explosion

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610358865514594306/610359931111079946/image0.jpg | The actual feat

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610358865514594306/610531601268604965/image0.jpg | Evidence that it is artillery fire

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610358865514594306/610532198621118465/image0.jpg | The explosion from the shell
Reposting from the previous thread:

  • Importance/Priority: 2 (scales to practically everyone who fought Geralt of Rivia)
  • Name of the Verse/Character: Witcher
  • Brief Feat Description: Kayran's strength and durability
Video for reference:

[1]Witcher 2 How to kill Kayran FIRST FEAT:

As shown in the video (01:37 and 02:10), kayran can remove lurge chunks of the ruins of this hudge bridge. Geralt, by his own admission (04:19), can take hits from kayran.

My question is: what is kayran's Attack Potency and on what Durability level taking hits from it puts Geralt at?


As shown in the video (03:12), after hitting the bridge for the third time, the structure collapses on kayran, crushing the beast. Despite this (and despite having three of it's tentacles already choped of by Geralt), the beast is not only alive, but still fights back, throwing massive bulders with enough force to shatter them.

My question is: on what level of durability surviving the crash puts kayran and does Geralt's ability to chop off the beast's tentacles puts him on the same level of Attack Potency?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.
  • Importance/Priority: 2 (Affects all of Thanatos' statistics, and The Player's durability. Must be done in order to make profiles for both. Obscure verse with one profile at the moment.)
  • Name of the Verse/Character: Endless Ocean / Thanatos, The Player (Endless Ocean)
  • Brief Feat Description: The Player survives a direct tail slap from Thanatos with only minor injury. (Around the 8:52 timestamp.) Would entail pixel scaling for Thanatos' length from nose to the tip of the tail, based off of the John Dories in the background of this picture (The game says they're 30 centimeters in length in the Marine Encyclopedia, and they appear to be the same distance from the Player as Thanatos is), then using proportions to calculate how much a great white shark of that length weighs. After that, would need to analyze the video to determine the velocity of Thanatos spinning around and hitting the Player (assuming Thanatos spins around in a perfect circle with the tip of its head at the center), in order to calculate the kinetic energy of Thanatos tail-slapping the Player.
EDIT: I've figured out Thanatos' length based off of pixel scaling, and an estimate for weight based off of Megalodon length and weight. I will be writing a blog post for these shortly. All that's needed now is an analysis of the video to determine how fast he spins around, hits the player, and a calculation for the kinetic energy of the tail-slap.


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Priority: 2

Verse: Coiling Drago

Feat: Leylin creates a continent that is bigger than our Planet over a period of 10 to 15 days but in the process of creating it has vibrations that can be felt for a range of 100,000km. I have tried and calculated the moving of the rocks but I don't know how the summoning of lava from the seabed works and the effect of vibrations. The entire information can be found here -BLOG.
Priority: 1

Verse: Owari no Seraph


first chapter bullet timer: https://imgur.com/a/VAse5GB

Later on the series, he casually dodged bullets again: https://imgur.com/a/HotDn23

Another bullet feat but not the same character: https://imgur.com/a/AsSN3Ab

Reacting to bullets (it seems they aimed at his blind spot): https://imgur.com/a/l3RdTBS

(Scale and references) Yuichiro Hyakuya blitzed the same vampire who reacted to bullets: https://imgur.com/a/OKWdM2F

And he commented on how good he is (Vampires rarely praise their opponents): https://imgur.com/a/wGg1KqF

Shinoa escapes Explosions (she's mid tier in verse) : https://imgur.com/a/mEYVN6G https://imgur.com/a/2noRTXX

Also Yuu's Sword negs high Regenerationn ability: https://imgur.com/a/TbfvlKu

Yuu Regenerated from his heart being completely destroyed:


Pls notify me (comment on my wall) if you guys calced those feats so I can add them to the pages. Thanks.
Priority: 2

Verse: Drakensang: The Dark Eye



I'm going to create profiles for a video game inspired by a tabletop game rpg and I would need calculations to justify AP and Tier.
The last two aren't really thing you'd calc here. They are just abilities that can be evaluated in CRTs.

I suggest making a CRT with them after you got the results to the calculations you wanted so that you bring everything in one single CRTs.
Priority:1 (Applies to all verses in this site)

Verse: Various

Description: Surviving other vehicle crashes while inside including a plane.
Priority: Will later help scaling for the verse

Verse: Yozakura Family

Feat: kyoichiro reacts to multiple drone's bullets https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/615332639888375827/615335233683718172/image0.png Description: So basically what I want to be calced is the drone that's closest to him to see how fast his combat and reaction speed is. As for the drones bullet speed I was assuming to just use a regular glocks bullet velocity which is 375 m/s . I only think this should be used as the family are all spies and most of them use military grade weapons. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock
@Sixo Bullets

How did you get that low?

Average distance between Mars and Earth is 225 billion meters, divided by 1 is 2.25e11 meters per second or 750,519214195842c, Massively FTL
I got 3 calcs (2 and 1 recalc request). Oh boy it will be long:

Verse: Black Clover

Calc 1:

Priority: 3 or 2 (I think we need calc 1 to determine calc 2's speed which will also determine recalc's)

Feat: Asta Reflects 3 beams of light. It takes place in a small bedroom.

His distance from the mirror (not from the beam btw. That beam was just to awaken Asta): https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:20190830_122818.jpg

Calc 2:

Priority: 3

Feat: Asta who stopped beams of light, couldn't react to that


Priority: 2, likely 1 (Scale to most of the characters)

Original Calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Meroleona_The_Lightspeed_Woman_-_Black_Clover

Apparently the angsizing wasn't correct. Also these attacks should be faster than light, going by calc 2.


The Sword and Shield of AKM Sama
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Priority: 2

Verse: Ninja Gaiden

Description: During the final battle of Ninja Gaiden 3, Ryu overpowers a Building Sized Goddess with just a sword, which should upgrade his Lifting Strength. At 2:51 and 8:03.

Priority: 1 (The Low 7-C ratings scaling from the Sword of Tengu are questionable at best, so we need other feats)

Verse: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (4Kids)

Feat: The Wind Ninja turns into a Tornado, which the Sword of Tengu can disperse.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2w0FuCxxEV0?start=743 and later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w0FuCxxEV0&feature=youtu.be&t=858

Bumping from the previous thread
  • Importance/Priority: 3 or 4 (May upgrade the Attack Potency &/or Striking Strength of a single character. May only be Striking Strength.)
  • Name of the Verse/Character: The Fairly OddParents!/Timmy's Dad
  • Brief Feat Description: By playing bongos, Timmy's Dad causes a "bongoquake".
Effects include: Knocking a water-filled fishbowl off of a nightstand, setting off car alarms, creating a hole big enough for a house to fall into, & shaking things enough that Timmy & Chloe (Near the source.) are bouncing on the ground in a way that Chloe describes as both tickling & hurting at the same time.

He later plays the bongos undersea (At least one while within a space with air.) & causes underwater rock slides, disrupts whales' sonar, breaks an undersea pipeline.
Priority: 2 (not sure how to label this tbh but this might affect some characters)

Verse: General calc

Feat: Destroying the Earth from its surface as a side effect of a fight or an attack not directed at the Earth

I was not sure if the inverse square law would be appropriate so I want a second opinion, or a more informed one


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Importance/Priority: 2-3

Character/Verse: Starfire (DC Comics)

Brief Feat Description 1: Starfire unleashed all her stored energy into a pseudo-nova blast. It is believed to be as hot as the sun itself. (WoS?)

Brief Feat Description 2: Starfire flew light years through space in short amounts of time. (WoS?)

Importance/Priority: 1 (scales to potentially all DC street characters)

Character/Verse: Mr. Freeze (DC Comics)

Brief Feat Description 1: Mr. Freeze built a castle in seconds.

Brief Feat Description 2: Mr. Freeze vs Superma

Brief Feat Description 3: Mr. Freeze invented a machine that could freeze an entire Kryptonian city in minutes

Brief Feat Description 4: Mr. Freeze vs Darkseid

(please note me on my wall if anyone has made such calculations already)
DemonicDude said:
GojiBoyForever said:
Please be patient and wait, this is optional after all.
Thank you so much ÔØñ´©Å honestly that means a lot.
He is not really doing any calc to, he just saided to wait. But i am willing to help. I'm no calc group member, but i know how to calc some things. Just post the feats in question
Drite77 said:
DemonicDude said:
GojiBoyForever said:
Please be patient and wait, this is optional after all.
Thank you so much ÔØñ´©Å honestly that means a lot.
He is not really doing any calc to, he just saided to wait. But i am willing to help. I'm no calc group member, but i know how to calc some things. Just post the feats in question
I know he just said to wait,I never said he's doing calc too I was thanking him but it's okay I'll thank you too for helping me and replying to me people like you is why I love vsbattle always willing to help thanks I need help with this

Verse: Ben 10

Description: Nanomech energy attacks blow up weapons,needs Attack potency ?

at 14:28


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Priority: 3, at most 2 (Supporting feat for the Carrion Spike's laser cannons, which scale to virtually every other capital ship's laser cannons in the series. If this reaches into the megaton range, it'll probably be priority 2).

Verse: Star Wars

Description: The Carrion Spike uses its laser cannons to destroy an asteroidal-base. The Spike is a Corvette with a diameter of just under 150 meters

  • At just under 150 meters in length, the corvette fit neatly between the old Judicial cruisers and Corellian Engineering's new-generation frigates. Heavily armed with turbolasers, ion cannons, and proton torpedo tubes, and featuring a Class One hyperdrive that made it the fastest ship in the Imperial Navy, the Carrion Spike had been designed specifically for him—and to meet many of his personal specifications—by Sienar Fleet Systems.
Priority: 2 or 1

Verse: Inhumanoids

Description: A character named D'compose pulled an entire town underground. It happened off screen and the town itself was shown throughout the show but never in its full size nor in any way that's actually scale-able. So I just assumed the next best thing to do for something like this is to see if someone could take the size/mass of a really small town (just to be safe) and calculate how much energy it would require to move said town (to simulate it being pushed/pulled of course.)
Priority: 2 (not quite sure but should scale to several protagonist mechs)

Verse: Mazinger Z

Feat: The fake island Saluud is rammed into Mazinger Z who catches it and reportedly "swings Saluud around like a toy" according to Baron Ashura

https://imgur.com/a/LsE2okO < Saluud itself full scale





Saluud is a base used by Baron Ashura so it has an interior and the mountain top part can be opened up to allow mechanical beasts to get out
Priority: 3

Verse: The Chronicles of Narnia

Feat: The White Witch disintegrates a huge door with a spell (Now with a picture since we found one):

" They came at last into a hall larger and loftier than any they had yet seen. From its size and from the great doors at the far end, Digory thought that now at last they must be coming to the main entrance. In this he was quite right.The doors were dead black, either ebony or some black metal which is not found in our world.
They were fastened with great bars, most of them too high to reach and all too heavy to lift. He wondered how they would get out. The Queen let go of his hand and raised her arm. She drew herself up to her full height and stood rigid. Then she said something which they couldn't understand (but it sounded horrid) and made an action as if she were throwing something towards the doors. And those high and heavy doors trembled for a second as if they were made of silk and then crumbled away till there was nothing left of them but a heap of dust on the threshold.
Verse: Ratchet & Clank

Priority: 1 (scales to Ratchet, Clank and most of the important characters)

Feat: Chairman Drek blows apart small mountains with an energy blast in (which Ratchet can take hits from without any armour)

Two instances

Instance one: https://youtu.be/zLylJJvlTZw?t=78 (to show the hill size) https://youtu.be/zLylJJvlTZw?t=113 (Drek blows it apart)

Instance two: https://youtu.be/zLylJJvlTZw?t=139 (to show the hill size) https://youtu.be/zLylJJvlTZw?t=213 (Drek blows it apart)

Also the pieces seem to fall down after being blown apart, like the bottom parts are destroyed or something. Could just be acting as floating platforms though.
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