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Bleach vs One Piece

LordGinSama

LordGinSama

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Just making this thread to possibly implement a new rule. Now to be clear this isn't over spite threads or because they cause chaos or anything like that but i want to suggest banning matches between the two series.


Now why would i want to do this? Verse Equalization of course. It's been a known fact that we cannot equalize Haki in versus matches due to how different it is from other "Chi" groups etc. Recently in a Bleach vs One Piece thread this was pointed out by a former Administrator Lord Aizen Sama. Matches between the two would be essentially impossible since we cannot equalize Haki Bleach character are able to Soul Crush them thus making it a stomp. It was suggested that we should not allow One Piece vs Bleach threads to be made until One Piece characters show good resistance to Soul Manipulation.


I'm neutral on this matter but I'd like to hear what everyone else has to say.
 
Actually about the whole Soul Crush thing, I'm kinda pointing that first.

If OP don't Equalization something(any energy and not just Haki) with reiatsu then Bleach ppl can just reiatsu crush them to oblivion.
 
Thing is One piece doesnt have any other energy. Devil fruits dont count either so... yeah.

It's a shame really.
 
Was the problem here? The wording is confussing on the OP thread. What are you proposing? Energy equalization includes all energy from both verses.
 
I just explained it. Don't see what's confusing about it.


What I'm proposing is that we ban match ups between One Piece and Bleach. Verse Equalization is the main reason, since we cannot equalize Haki to things such as Reiatsu meaning Bleach characters automatically are able to Soul Crush One Piece characters.
 
It doesn't work like that. Reiatsu is always equalize to the energy in other verses, otherwise, character outside of Bleach will not be able to harm Bleach characters. And Reiatsu has only shown to work on weaker characters than the user. Soul Crush has never been use on someone that's on your level. As long as you don't make a stomp match everything should be fine.
 
Again I'm telling you, we've literally have a rule here that we cannot equalize Haki to other Chi Group's like Chakra or Reiatsu. The whole invisibility thing isn't an issue since Kenbunshoku would still allow One Piece characters to see Bleach characters.


I am just going off what one of the Bleach experts told me about the entire Soul Crush thing. However if this isn't true I'd like to hear more input from others.
 
Read the bottom, everyone agreed to make it so Haki cannot be equalized. Now it's not important enough to be added to the rules however the mods and normal users agreed to it.
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
Read the bottom, everyone agreed to make it so Haki cannot be equalized. Now it's not important enough to be added to the rules however the mods and normal users agreed to it.
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Every rule is added. Just ask the mods to add it, and link the thread. The rule is as official as any other when I see it in the official page.
 
No need to ban anything.

Lets ban One Piece vs digimon threads becausw the tier 2s stomp.

Let's ban One Pice vs Saint Seiya because divine cosmos stomps.

If OP gets stomped by bleach via an inverse mechanic its not a reason to ban anything.
 
Both of those examples are incredibly stupid with all respect due.


"Lets ban One Piece vs digimon threads becausw the tier 2s stomp." Nobody would create any thread like that so that's just a really bad example. A tier 2 fighting a 6-B is obviously spite.


"Let's ban One Pice vs Saint Seiya because divine cosmos stomps." Same as above.


And i am suggesting banning matches between One Piece and Bleach is because fights between the two series are quite literally impossible due to One Piece characters not possessing Reiatsu thus instant Soul Crush. This is not to stop hax stomps or AP stomps as you are suggesting. This is literally impossible.
 
That's like asking banning Bleach vs anyverse, because no other verse has reiatsu. Therefore, instant soul crush. I made a thread about reaiatsu a long time ago, and the conclusion was that it doesn't work as people say it does.
 
I'm gonna quote this from LAS.


"Because the matches don't allow verse equalisation because of hakis mechanisms. Which means instant soulcrushing

So unless they can resist soul manipulation (a pretty good soul manipulation resistance at that) its a stomp"
 
Seems like people arent really understanding.

Haki was DECIDED by the people who follow one piece on this site to not be a in verse equivalent to reiatsu,ki,nen,chakra due to how different it is.

So what does this mean?

This means every bleach character is invisible and the Reiatsu they exert destroys their souls. Virtually destroying any bleach vs one piece threads having the potential to not be a stomp

Essentially this is just to save the time and effort. One thread I went to had about 100 posts and all i did was mention theres no verse equalisation and that's it. Thread became a stomp and waste of everyones time.
 
Is this site accepting no verse equalisation for One Piece as a general rule or was that only made for that thread?
 
" In addition, most Bleach characters are invisible to those without spiritual powers (though they are considered visible in vs matches) and can fly. They can also cross into different realms, making BFR hard if not impossible to use against them. Shinigami are able to use Kidō to seal and bind. Quincy can absorb surrounding energy and can use Blut to enhance their defense or offense capabilities."

in bleach verse page

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/535335 Burning Full FingersIt should be banned for sure. It'll only invite room for wanking and NLF. And it hasn't even been shown to work on someone on the user's level or higher. Sounds identical to the Conqueror's Haki issue.

thread about the same topic and all saying that reiasu crush is only in verse

And then ,we are saying that ichigo 7-C could destroy the soul of whitebeard 6-B nice,and whitebeard can´t even see him,perfect
 
I dont really understand what hes saying but the verse page is obviously referencing verse equalisation.

The thread you linked was before when it was equalised. Also scroll down. Guess who it was who settled that thread.
 
@Knight, no,, those werent bad examples. Those are exactly the same cases, if OP vs Bleach is a mismatch, its a mismatch, end of story, we dont ban verse matches because they are mismatches. We ban them because of controversy. If its accepted that OP cannot resist Reiatsu crush, its just that, 0 controversy, they are mismatches as my other examples.
 
@Pachi


No those were pretty bad examples. Yes the meaning you were trying to say was decent however the examples you used ( Saint Seiya and Digimon.) Was pretty ridiculous. You are literally comparing One Piece vs Bleach to One Piece vs higher dimensional beings with a shit ton of hax. Yeah doesn't really seem like a good example.


Again you don't seem to understand why this needs to be fixed. I'll repeat myself again. One Piece characters are unable to fight Bleach characters due to how Haki and Reiatsu interact. Nobody in One Piece posses anything like Reiatsu thus instant Soul Crush. As LAS pointed out creating them would only be wasting everyone's time.
 
We have nothing in OP to equalise to reiatsu from bleach and thus OP characters can't interact with Bleach characters.

Seems pretty simple to me.
 
Blanked said:
We have nothing in OP to equalise to reiatsu from bleach and thus OP characters can't interact with Bleach characters.
Seems pretty simple to me.
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^This. You guys are making this harder than it should be.
 
That's basically what I've been trying to say. Then again I've been up for the past 20 hours.


In short Bleach vs One Piece threads are gonna waist everyone's time.
 
Then Ichigo againts a Dinosaur is reiatsu crush,Ichigo vs The Thing is reiatsu crush and Ichigo vs Captain Underpants is reiatsu crush

They dont have a "chi" power in they universe (except marvel, but The Thing doesn´t use it),so it can´t be equalized,so that battles are all mismatches and bleach can´t never be use in battles except with some verses like dragon ball
 
^This. You guys are making this harder than it should be.

is that a reason to ban a matchup? Because there are plenty of verses which should get the same treatment as OP, OP is not an excemption, which is what Im trying to get through.

"Again you don't seem to understand why this needs to be fixed. I'll repeat myself again. One Piece characters are unable to fight Bleach characters due to how Haki and Reiatsu interact. Nobody in One Piece posses anything like Reiatsu thus instant Soul Crush. As LAS pointed out creating them would only be wasting everyone's time."

I do understand that, that's what makes them mismatches, nothing else. Again, mismatches are mismatches, doesnt matter the reason for which they are, be it higher dimensional stuff, speedstomp, etc.
 
I understand the point you were trying to make but the series you used as an example was pretty ridiculous. Especially since this is a mismatch for a completely different reason. Just a nitpick on my end i guess.


However this should still be dealt with somehow.
 
They were ridiculous on purpose, of course. Because that same train of thought taken to an extreme would lead you there.

People just need to understand that they are mismatches.
 
I mean whether we put it as a rule or simply consider them mismatch when they are made and remove those that are already made for me is the same.
 
Then why not make a temportal bann? If the author introduces later a type of energy with the One Piece treasure or something, we can use it.
 
One Piece characters can interact with Bleach characters if you say they can though... I don't understand why this is an issue. Just say 'Bleach characters can be seen in this match-up' and there are no problems. Reiatsu crushing almost never actually matters in the Bleach series as well for deciding fights, so you can ignore that too in match-ups.

Also, we know that One Piece characters possess souls and therefore have an unknown amount of spiritual energy; therefore it's impossible to say they'd be Reaitsu-crushed because we don't know how much spiritual energy they have.
 
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