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Kon >>>>>>>>>>>true shikaiAppleLord said:Bankai Urahara and Yoruichi God of Thunder > True Shikai Ichigo
Orihime's Breasts >>>>>>>>>>>>> True Bankai IchigoAppleLord said:Bankai Urahara and Yoruichi God of Thunder > True Shikai Ichigo
You started itAppleLord said:Can people stop joking?
I wasn't joking. Manga speaks facts. Any special argument you want to bring him that would classify Askin vs Ichigo as PIS, CIS, OR AIS?TOAAPRESENCE1 said:You started itAppleLord said:Can people stop joking?
Yes AppleLord is a joke around these parts.Damage3245 said:Didn't Askin beat him through hax?
Are you implying Askin could take down Yhwach in the same manner?Damage3245 said:Didn't Askin beat him through hax?
Depends. If Askin made the air poisonous and we assume that Yhwach can't get ahold of Askin in time to kill him, then logically Yhwach would eventually die from poisoning, no?AppleLord said:Are you implying Askin could take down Yhwach in the same manner?
If you mean base maybe but Yhwach just as easily could take away his powersDamage3245 said:Depends. If Askin made the air poisonous and we assume that Yhwach can't get ahold of Askin in time to kill him, then logically Yhwach would eventually die from poisoning, no?AppleLord said:Are you implying Askin could take down Yhwach in the same manner?
Yeah. That's a relevant factor too.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:If you mean base maybe but Yhwach just as easily could take away his powers
Because is already stated that TSI is = to dangai ichigo that is whyArc7Kuroi said:Ichigo isn't able to do anything notable against Yhwach until he busts out the Horn of Salvation; so, why does Ichigo in just his Shikai have to be above everyone else in the series? All we see of TS Ichigo is him no diff the Femritter, prepare to fight eight sternritter but not have to fight them, get haxed by Askin, and get toyed with by Yhwach. We can place TS Merged Hollow Form Ichigo above Kenpachi easily cause he damaged Yhwach but why does Ichigo in shikai have to be faster than Kenpachi when he has no good backings for that form (when compared to other God Tiers and Ichigo's later forms).
You do realize that you're talking about Kenpachi in a different arc? That Kenpachi is rated as Relativistic.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:Because is already stated that TSI is = to dangai ichigo that is why
Not to mention that the femritters basically spanked kenpachi and ichigo was playing around with all of them even worried that a single attack would kill/hurt them badly
Didn't the Femritters catch Kenpachi off guard after having to fight Gremmy? Because being able to beat a weakened Kenpachi doesn't put you above Kenpachi's full power. Unless Kenpachi was in tip top shape when the Femritters arrived, then I concede my point to yours.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:Because is already stated that TSI is = to dangai ichigo that is whyArc7Kuroi said:Ichigo isn't able to do anything notable against Yhwach until he busts out the Horn of Salvation; so, why does Ichigo in just his Shikai have to be above everyone else in the series? All we see of TS Ichigo is him no diff the Femritter, prepare to fight eight sternritter but not have to fight them, get haxed by Askin, and get toyed with by Yhwach. We can place TS Merged Hollow Form Ichigo above Kenpachi easily cause he damaged Yhwach but why does Ichigo in shikai have to be faster than Kenpachi when he has no good backings for that form (when compared to other God Tiers and Ichigo's later forms).
Not to mention that the femritters basically spanked kenpachi and ichigo was playing around with all of them even worried that a single attack would kill/hurt them badly
TSI is below A Yhwach not baseArc7Kuroi said:Also, if the author is talking about Tier 5 Ichigo then his statement that Ichigo is above Hikone requires less asumptions because Tier 5 > Tier 6 so of course Tier 5 Ichigo > Tier 6 Hikone. While I agree that personally I feel TS Ichigo should scale above Base Kenpachi we have no feats or statements that require zero assumptions to confirm that without a shadow of a doubt. TS Ichigo is below Yhwach, Gremmy is below Yhwach, Kenpachi was able to match pace with Gremmy in base so maybe he could match pace with TS Ichigo. Saying TS Ichigo should be faster than base Kenpachi makes sense to me but it has not logical backings besides Ichigo is the main character and is going to face the final boss so he should be the best.
Exactly, so what's so wrong about TS Ichigo being At least FTL, possibly MFTL. When, we know without a shadow of a doubt that TS Ichigo > Base Hikone because of what Liltotto said and that it can be argued (but not with 100% certainty) that TS Ichigo > Full Power Hikone because of what the author said.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:Dude Yhwach is 5-B, ofc Ichigo didn't do shit. Come on man.
I think it could be goodArc7Kuroi said:Exactly, so what's so wrong about TS Ichigo being At least FTL, possibly MFTL. When, we know without a shadow of a doubt that TS Ichigo > Base Hikone because of what Liltotto said and that it can be argued (but not with 100% certainty) that TS Ichigo > Full Power Hikone because of what the author said.