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When I began the series I loved how most characters thread past the boundaries of light speed so early in the anime. After years I found myself very dissatisfied with the speed scaling. On this wiki, characters who are supposed to blitz other characters still have the same speed tier as the characters they speed blitz. In vsthread debates I found myself annoyed having to make chains upon chains upon chains of scaling to show why a certain character massively upscales from a tier shared by vastly inferior characters. I have made up my mind to correct this situation. This is a 3 part upgrade series. Enjoy the ride, be respectful and have fun. Thank you.
NAAMAH AND LILITH SPEED UP
Enjoy the twin's speed progression
Naamah and Lilith go about their normal day at work.
Suddenly, they were attacked by Asta
Naamah and Lilith found it hard to tag Asta.
In the end, Asta took Naamah down fairly easily.
Lilith decided to fuse with Naamah and they became Naalith.
Nacht describes the fusion's magic power as greater than the sum of their power.
Asta, who was able to easily evade attacks and take down Naamah easily, could not catch up to Naalith as a result.
In this thread, it was accepted that a magic boost leads to a speed boost
In conclusion, Naalith becomes more than 2x faster than before, allowing them to outpace Asta who was previously comparable, if not faster, than them. I propose the acceptance of a 2x multiplier as a low end. We will discuss who scales to what later.
DEVIL MANIFESTATION MULTIPLIER
In this same thread, it has been accepted that if a mage increases their magic then it leads to an increase in their speed as well. With that said, Lucifero's complete manifestation should be 2x faster than his half state. Also, Megicula's incomplete form is 1/3rd of her complete manifestation, therefore her complete form is 3x faster than her 1/3rd state.
LUCIFERO:
Let us look at Half Manifested Lucifero's speed progression from his Base to his Full Power.
A Base Lucifero limits his magic use. If Lucifero is forced, he can increase his magic use until he reaches full power thus amplifying his speed and power in the process. For instance, when Zora absorbed and doubled his magic, Lucifero matched Zora's speed and power. It's clear Lucifero raised his own magic to Zora's amped level. Next, we know that Yami's magic grew due to an unknown reason and Nacht was using double Devil Union (Felis Mode and Canis Mode). On top of their magic amps both Yami and Nacht begin to use Mana Zone: Full Power in hopes of keeping up with Lucifero (Their mana zone created a space where they could utilize stealth on top of all their amps). Lucifero decides to use his Full Power and we have seen that he is still faster than everyone in the fight, implying his speed has increased. His opponents could not keep up even with Kids Playground's stealth. Teammates could only provide support after the damage has been done and they needed to stay in the shadows to avoid death.
At Full Manifestation, Lucifero at Full Power will be 2x faster than his Incomplete State at full power because he would have access to all the magic his other half possesses in the underworld.
MEGICULA:
Megicula was 1/3 of her manifestation when she killed Noelle's mother. As shown with Lucifero, Full Manifestation would've increased her magic by 3 folds allowing her to be 3x faster than her incomplete state.
Sally's Dark Magic Item
It has been accepted that a magic boost grants a speed boost as well. This magic item grants Sally a 10x magic boost for 10 minutes. She used this to fight Henry although she did not need to move as her plan was to restrain henry by letting him strike the salamander. She only lost because she was blindsided by the other members of the black bulls.
Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, Dereck03, CloverDragon, SuperStar, Panache_x, Speedster, Aether (agrees with the rest), Reio35, Saef, Arkenis. Popted, Testarossa, Spinoirr, Lugh_Tauthe_De.
Neutral: Epsilon (spectating), Life_of_King (spectating), Wagy (leaning towards agreeing), Nierre.
Disagree: Aether (Naalith)
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Please note that I do not wish to talk about the nitty-gritty parts of the scaling until the end of this 3 part series. This thread is simply to get multipliers accepted.Imgur stopped working for me half way through making this so sorry for the quality of the scans
When I began the series I loved how most characters thread past the boundaries of light speed so early in the anime. After years I found myself very dissatisfied with the speed scaling. On this wiki, characters who are supposed to blitz other characters still have the same speed tier as the characters they speed blitz. In vsthread debates I found myself annoyed having to make chains upon chains upon chains of scaling to show why a certain character massively upscales from a tier shared by vastly inferior characters. I have made up my mind to correct this situation. This is a 3 part upgrade series. Enjoy the ride, be respectful and have fun. Thank you.
NAAMAH AND LILITH SPEED UP
Enjoy the twin's speed progression
Naamah and Lilith go about their normal day at work.
Suddenly, they were attacked by Asta
Naamah and Lilith found it hard to tag Asta.
In the end, Asta took Naamah down fairly easily.
Lilith decided to fuse with Naamah and they became Naalith.
Nacht describes the fusion's magic power as greater than the sum of their power.
Asta, who was able to easily evade attacks and take down Naamah easily, could not catch up to Naalith as a result.
In this thread, it was accepted that a magic boost leads to a speed boost
In conclusion, Naalith becomes more than 2x faster than before, allowing them to outpace Asta who was previously comparable, if not faster, than them. I propose the acceptance of a 2x multiplier as a low end. We will discuss who scales to what later.
DEVIL MANIFESTATION MULTIPLIER
In this same thread, it has been accepted that if a mage increases their magic then it leads to an increase in their speed as well. With that said, Lucifero's complete manifestation should be 2x faster than his half state. Also, Megicula's incomplete form is 1/3rd of her complete manifestation, therefore her complete form is 3x faster than her 1/3rd state.
LUCIFERO:
Let us look at Half Manifested Lucifero's speed progression from his Base to his Full Power.
A Base Lucifero limits his magic use. If Lucifero is forced, he can increase his magic use until he reaches full power thus amplifying his speed and power in the process. For instance, when Zora absorbed and doubled his magic, Lucifero matched Zora's speed and power. It's clear Lucifero raised his own magic to Zora's amped level. Next, we know that Yami's magic grew due to an unknown reason and Nacht was using double Devil Union (Felis Mode and Canis Mode). On top of their magic amps both Yami and Nacht begin to use Mana Zone: Full Power in hopes of keeping up with Lucifero (Their mana zone created a space where they could utilize stealth on top of all their amps). Lucifero decides to use his Full Power and we have seen that he is still faster than everyone in the fight, implying his speed has increased. His opponents could not keep up even with Kids Playground's stealth. Teammates could only provide support after the damage has been done and they needed to stay in the shadows to avoid death.
At Full Manifestation, Lucifero at Full Power will be 2x faster than his Incomplete State at full power because he would have access to all the magic his other half possesses in the underworld.
MEGICULA:
Megicula was 1/3 of her manifestation when she killed Noelle's mother. As shown with Lucifero, Full Manifestation would've increased her magic by 3 folds allowing her to be 3x faster than her incomplete state.
Sally's Dark Magic Item
It has been accepted that a magic boost grants a speed boost as well. This magic item grants Sally a 10x magic boost for 10 minutes. She used this to fight Henry although she did not need to move as her plan was to restrain henry by letting him strike the salamander. She only lost because she was blindsided by the other members of the black bulls.
Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, Dereck03, CloverDragon, SuperStar, Panache_x, Speedster, Aether (agrees with the rest), Reio35, Saef, Arkenis. Popted, Testarossa, Spinoirr, Lugh_Tauthe_De.
Neutral: Epsilon (spectating), Life_of_King (spectating), Wagy (leaning towards agreeing), Nierre.
Disagree: Aether (Naalith)
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Please note that I do not wish to talk about the nitty-gritty parts of the scaling until the end of this 3 part series. This thread is simply to get multipliers accepted.
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