Battle for the 11th strongest non smurf 2c- Grand priest vs Wang ling

[Killerdrone123]

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Grand priest

Vs

Wang ling

EL Grande Padre:

Wang ling:

Incon

 

[Omegabronic]

Huh, in the Grand Priest Profile:
"Angels are forbidden from interfering too much in worldly affairs, such as using their angel power against mortals and engaging in combat outside of training. If they break this rule, they are punished by having their existence erased."

How is a fight even possible to happen here?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Huh, in the Grand Priest Profile:
"Angels are forbidden from interfering too much in worldly affairs, such as using their angel power against mortals and engaging in combat outside of training. If they break this rule, they are punished by having their existence erased."

How is a fight even possible to happen here?

G.p can use his haxs perfectly fine without getting erased literally he erased meerus and was perfectly fine

 

[Omegabronic]

G.p can use his haxs perfectly fine without getting erased literally he erased meerus and was perfectly fine

Merus is an angel, so it wouldn't count as "worldly afairs" since merus is a deity

 

[Killerdrone123]

Merus is an angel, so it wouldn't count as "worldly afairs" since merus is a deity

He literally power nulled mortals plus warped the wov they are not allowed to use there full power we can assume the level of power they have shown without getting erased

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Huh, in the Grand Priest Profile:
"Angels are forbidden from interfering too much in worldly affairs, such as using their angel power against mortals and engaging in combat outside of training. If they break this rule, they are punished by having their existence erased."

How is a fight even possible to happen here?

Whis knocks out Beerus in one chop.
Grand Priest stopped Beerus and Quitela fighting with two fingers.
Grand Priest also has various non-combative hax he can apply such as teleportation. Which he has used to teleport people into different realms such as the World of Void or Zeno Realm.
Merus also fought Moro at length before he started being erased and fought various other opponents. He only starts being erased if he starts using his full power.

 

[Omegabronic]

He literally power nulled mortals

Doing that erased Merus, simply by using his abilities ina fight makes him start yo get erased

plus warped the wov

So? That wasn't a fight, the law is against them fighting, and for them to be impartial at all times, both of which his role in the ToP do not violate

they are not allowed to use there full power we can assume the level of power they have shown without getting erased

Merus after using a simple ability like powernull was enough for him to start to get erased......pretty sire trying to actually harm or kill someone else is far more constituiting as a fight than that, let alone hax like Existence Erasure

Whis knocks out Beerus in one chop.

Not a fight + not worldy afairs as Beerus is a god

Grand Priest stopped Beerus and Quitela fighting with two fingers.

again, he is not fighting anyone here, but stopping a fight, which he was the arbiter

Grand Priest also has various non-combative hax he can apply such as teleportation. Which he has used to teleport people into different realms such as the World of Void or Zeno Realm.

I mean.....sure, i guess that can work then

Merus also fought Moro at length before he started being erased and fought various other opponents. He only starts being erased if he starts using his full power.

Merely using any of his angel abilities was enough for him to get erased.......so like, clearly "full power" is not needed, the only real thing said is "if it constitutes as a fight, then they are prohibited" full power is only ever mentioned 1 time cuz......Obviously Merus going all.out against anyone counts as a battle

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Huh, in the Grand Priest Profile:
"Angels are forbidden from interfering too much in worldly affairs, such as using their angel power against mortals and engaging in combat outside of training. If they break this rule, they are punished by having their existence erased."

How is a fight even possible to happen here?

They can’t go all out. But there are scenes where Merus used his Angel powers to fight Moro before he started fading.

 

[Omegabronic]

They can’t go all out. But there are scenes where Merus used his Angel powers to fight Moro before he started fading.

the momen that he started using them he started fading

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Doing that erased Merus, simply by using his abilities ina fight makes him start yo get erased


So? That wasn't a fight, the law is against them fighting, and for them to be impartial at all times, both of which his role in the ToP do not violate


Merus after using a simple ability like powernull was enough for him to start to get erased......pretty sire trying to actually harm or kill someone else is far more constituiting as a fight than that, let alone hax like Existence Erasure


Not a fight + not worldy afairs as Beerus is a god


again, he is not fighting anyone here, but stopping a fight, which he was the arbiter


I mean.....sure, i guess that can work then


Merely using any of his angel abilities was enough for him to get erased.......so like, clearly "full power" is not needed, the only real thing said is "if it constitutes as a fight, then they are prohibited" full power is only ever mentioned 1 time cuz......Obviously Merus going all.out against anyone counts as a battle

It's only ever stated that Merus is risking his erasure when he goes full power. Like against Goku or when he starts using his full power against Moro. We clearly see Merus can fight up to the level of Moro-73 before his power enters erasure territory.

And explicitly Angel abilities such as Whis rewinding time does not cause Whis to be erased. Even though he did it over a fight between mortals and a mortal planet being destroyed. So evidently they aren't erased by that. And EE is not inherently an Angel ability. All the GoDs, Granolah, Gas, Goku and Vegeta know it.

And above all else. Grand Priest's page states:
"By freely being able to erase angels in defiance of the law that protected them, as well as resurrect Merus as a mortal, he has shown the ability to negate and modify the effects of the angel laws which applies to all angels in all universes)"

Which grants him Law Manipulation over the very law that erases Angels. So he should be able to just modify or negate the law and erase Wang regardless.

 

[Omegabronic]

It's only ever stated that Merus is risking his erasure when he goes full power. Like against Goku or when he starts using his full power against Moro. We clearly see Merus can fight up to the level of Moro-73 before his power enters erasure territory.

EXept the moment he began to use his angel powers, the second he did that he started to get erased

And explicitly Angel abilities such as Whis rewinding time does not cause Whis to be erased.

Merus simply using power null made him begin to get erased tho

Even though he did it over a fight between mortals and a mortal planet being destroyed. So evidently they aren't erased by that.

Exept......Whis wasn't fighting himself, thus the law wasn't broken, Merus joining and helping the Galactic patrol was allowed, even if it was on the limits, by the logic Whis there was in a similar situation

And EE is not inherently an Angel ability. All the GoDs, Granolah, Gas, Goku and Vegeta know it.

GP's clearly is as the profile specifies that it is an ability of him and not hakai.....plus GoD and the chars you mentioned don't have the rule applied to them, haki is a Hakaishin's power, not an angel power

And above all else. Grand Priest's page states:
"By freely being able to erase angels in defiance of the law that protected them, as well as resurrect Merus as a mortal, he has shown the ability to negate and modify the effects of the angel laws which applies to all angels in all universes)"

Which grants him Law Manipulation over the very law that erases Angels. So he should be able to just modify or negate the law and erase Wang regardless.

Haxes are limited to what a char has been shown to be able to do with them, if the GP was able to just make someome immune to the rule, he could have just done that to Merus to save him, but as he stated, erasing him himself then reviving him as a mortal was the only way to save him, thus he can't do something like having the law not apply to someone.....else he would have done that

 

[Robo432343]

GP FRA

 

[CryoTheMayo]

EXept the moment he began to use his angel powers, the second he did that he started to get erased

'Angel abilities' is the same as him going full power.

Merus simply using power null made him begin to get erased tho

Power null? He was just shattering Moro's copy gems. Moro even copies his powers because he touched him lol.

Exept......Whis wasn't fighting himself, thus the law wasn't broken, Merus joining and helping the Galactic patrol was allowed, even if it was on the limits, by the logic Whis there was in a similar situation

Yeah no. Whis used his powers to intervene in a mortal battle to the death and altered the result.

GP's clearly is as the profile specifies that it is an ability of him and not hakai.....plus GoD and the chars you mentioned don't have the rule applied to them, haki is a Hakaishin's power, not an angel power

Granolah and Gas know EE from their wish. Neither of them are GoDs or have God Ki. It's also never stated GP's EE is a godly power or anything along those lines. Given there is a precedent for EE to be available to those without godly power I have no reason to think GP can't use EE.

Haxes are limited to what a char has been shown to be able to do with them, if the GP was able to just make someome immune to the rule, he could have just done that to Merus to save him, but as he stated, erasing him himself then reviving him as a mortal was the only way to save him, thus he can't do something like having the law not apply to someone.....else he would have done that

Merus himself used tools as a loophole around the law. Grand Priest is the one who arbitrates it. And the fact that GP's own profile states he can modify and negate the laws would indicate he can easily abuse such loopholes.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Also where exactly it is stated that the erasure would only take place when angels are fighting mortals or use there abilities against mortals in combat and won't take place when an angel is fighting an angel

Also even if that's the case I am pretty sure Wang ling is a deity

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Also where exactly it is stated that the erasure would only take place when angels are fighting mortals or use there abilities against mortals in combat and won't take place when an angel is fighting an angel

Nowhere.

 

[Robo432343]

fr
the downplay is crazy

 

[TiltedFN]

EXept the moment he began to use his angel powers, the second he did that he started to get erased

It was still a good bit in the fight tho

Merus simply using power null made him begin to get erased tho

GP would only need a couple moves to end the fight

Exept......Whis wasn't fighting himself, thus the law wasn't broken, Merus joining and helping the Galactic patrol was allowed, even if it was on the limits, by the logic Whis there was

He still joined in mortal affairs

in a similar situation

No

GP's clearly

What?

is as the profile specifies

Why

that it is an ability of him and not hakai

Still EE which a lot of people use

.....plus GoD

what?

and the chars

how?

you mentioned don't have the rule applied to them

So?

, haki is a Hakaishin's power, not an angel power

still EE

Haxes are limited

I know

to what a char has been shown to be able to do with them

Yeah and GP can still erase

, if the GP was able to just make someome immune to the rule, he could have just done that to Merus to save him

He went around it instead

, but as he stated, erasing him himself then reviving him as a mortal was the only way to save him, thus he can't do something like having the law not apply to someone.....else he would have done that

What?

 

[CryoTheMayo]

According to his series' wiki, Wang Ling is a God. So the entire godly and mortal affairs debate seems irrelevant.

 

[Jaakor48]

Ignoring the ridiculous fanfic that GP can't fight here

GP wins pretty easily here from what I've seen on his profile

Unless I missed something, not only does Wang long not resist his thought based EE, nor his thought based power null, or his..other power null which would remove Wang's divinity either

Wang ling also can't bypass his immortality either unless I missed something in his profile

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Yeah voting Grand Priest FRA. This might be a stomp though.

 

[AwkguyDB]

GP Fra