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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

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At the end of the day i dont really care for DB opinion and just Watch for Animation and Character Analysis.
-But Bleach Fans are having a Massive W on December 18, perhaps the Biggest Comeback in Anime ever. 9 years to come back, 9 days to take over.
aint it already 10 years?
 
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So naming some stupid things I noticed :
  • Madara has still both sharingans after using Izanagi
  • Death Battle said Aizen = Soul King who had enough power to hold the worlds ( planets as they said even though they uni ) + ( 3 worlds > 1 if Death battle doesn't know how to count ) and still didn't count it as a AP feat even though we know Reiatsu = AP
  • Aizen got into Tsukuyomi like Lord knows how the f did Aizen get into a genjutsu when souls can't even get into it.
More to come
 
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From Seth and Clyde’s stream (summary I read), they disagree with Madara’s win con, and think a better win con for Madara is sealing. They gave an Aizen wincon too (I forget what). They also think the characters were lowballed. Also shat on the visuals/animation lmao.
 
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From Seth and Clyde’s stream (summary I read), they disagree with Madara’s win con, and think a better win con for Madara is sealing. They gave an Aizen wincon too (I forget what). They also think the characters were lowballed. Also shat on the visuals/animation lmao.
it would have been more believable is that was how madara won, instead of whatever tf they did

also animation was trash

do u have a link to their stream?
 
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So naming some stupid things I noticed :
  • Madara has still both sharingans after using Izanagi
  • Death Battle said Aizen = Soul King who had enough power to hold the worlds ( planets as they said even though they uni ) + ( 3 worlds > 1 if Death battle doesn't know how to count ) and still didn't count it as a AP feat even though we know Reiatsu = AP
  • Aizen got into Tsukuyomi like Lord knows how the f did Aizen get into a genjutsu when souls can't even get into it.
More to come
he didnt use izanagi
they scaled the tree feat above sustaining 3 worlds
 
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Aren’t these clones?
How can it be explained that the others Hokage's body being restored after getting hit by the Truth Seeking Balls. Hiruzen's upper body was completely annihilated and his soul stayed in tact. Hashirama and Tobirama also got their side bodies hit and damaged and still their souls remained in tact. So it must have been an outliner or whatever that's called in terms of powerscaling.
 
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How can it be explained that the others Hokage's body being restored after getting hit by the Truth Seeking Balls. Hiruzen's upper body was completely annihilated and his soul stayed in tact. Hashirama and Tobirama also got their side bodies hit and damaged and still their souls remained in tact. So it must have been an outliner or whatever that's called in terms of powerscaling.
simple this was before obito gained control of the juubi.
 
Does illusions not have tiering? Wouldn't the infinite tsukiyomi work on a sharingan user? I only ask because they said sharingan users can break out illusions with ease, but if the IT is intended to work on even sharingan users then Would mean you are giving a nlf to sharingan users and illusion breaking or saying aizen's illusions aren't a big deal. The latter seems weird considered its manipulated people for centuries, and I don't think its ever been broken out of. That doesn't seem like a typical illusion to me. The fight also is dumb as they were using a form of aizen that would get slapped by those forms of madara while the one end of series is the one that would actually win/compete. Never liked death battles tbh
 
So, if we consider sealing as Madara's wincon, who is more likely to use one of their wincons first? How "in character" is it for Madara to rely on sealing once he's in So6P state?
 
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So, if we consider sealing as Madara's wincon, who is more likely to use one of their wincons first? How "in character" is it for Madara to rely on sealing once he's in So6P state?
madara not very likely at all, nor is he likely to use genjustsu nor izanagi/izanami, unless literally on the verge of death (and even on some moments he does not use them)
 
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arc is it true that in an actual fight


i mean there won't be too much of a speed blitz


but will there be one abeit a little?

since they have similar speeds but aizen is a little faster?
 
Why don't we scale Mimihagi to Tier 5-B equal to the Weakened Soul King? Since he prevented worlds from being destroyed temporarily when Ichigo split the Soul King in half. With the current planetary scale, it doesn't look like an outlier. In fact, this could be the gateway for the Top Tier to enter Tier 5.
 
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Honestly someone should just debunk this and then we should all forget this joke of a battle, like their scaling and reading comprehension is atrocious, their research drastically flawed and incomplete forgetting many feats and all, add that the fight dialogues and choreography were hideous... really nothing of this fight was savable
 
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I remember there is a panel wherd Uryu fires a arrow and it arrived before the light from opening the doors reaches Haschwalt.
 
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A weird thing I have been noticing. The dislikes to the Madara vs Aizen video have been lowered by over 1 thousand. It was at like 7.8K Dislikes today morning now it's 6.6K. BRUHHHHHHH
 
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was going through turn back to pendulum to simp aizen and noticed something,
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2 kido masters (tessai and hachigen) have horns, and kido is called demon way.
hachigen also stated orihimes powers are unique and similar to his, kubo was asked not long ago in klub outside why orihime and chads fullbring names arent in english like the rest of the fullbringers and he said it is because they are a special case, orihime chad and the concept of kido got somthing to do with hell? thoughts?
 
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was going through turn back to pendulum to simp aizen and noticed something,
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2 kido masters (tessai and hachigen) have horns, and kido is called demon way.
hachigen also stated orihimes powers are unique and similar to his, kubo was asked not long ago in klub outside why orihime and chads fullbring names arent in english like the rest of the fullbringers and he said it is because they are a special case, orihime chad and the concept of kido got somthing to do with hell? thoughts?
Damn that's fire. So seems that he has planned on expanding to Hell long before. I swear if that's some kind of foreshadowing then Kubo is a fkin Goat.
 
was going through turn back to pendulum to simp aizen and noticed something,
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2 kido masters (tessai and hachigen) have horns, and kido is called demon way.
hachigen also stated orihimes powers are unique and similar to his, kubo was asked not long ago in klub outside why orihime and chads fullbring names arent in english like the rest of the fullbringers and he said it is because they are a special case, orihime chad and the concept of kido got somthing to do with hell? thoughts?
Great 👌
 
Now that the Death Battle theme has finally calmed down. What do you guys think:

Why don't we scale Mimihagi to Tier 5-B equal to the weakened Soul King. Since he prevented worlds from being destroyed temporarily when Ichigo split the Soul King in half. With the current planetary scale, it doesn't look like an Outlier. In fact, this could be the gateway for the Top Tier to enter Tier 5. And we didn't scale Ichigo Dangai, Mugetsu and Monster Aizen for the 5-A.
 
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Now that the Death Battle theme has finally calmed down. What do you guys think:

Why don't we scale Mimihagi to Tier 5-B equal to the weakened Soul King. Since he prevented worlds from being destroyed temporarily when Ichigo split the Soul King in half. With the current planetary scale, it doesn't look like an Outlier. In fact, this could be the gateway for the Top Tier to enter Tier 5. And we didn't scale Ichigo Dangai, Mugetsu and Monster Aizen for the 5-A.
Didnt he just Use Jushiro‘s body and used up all of his Reiryoku to do that?
If anything Jushiro should be 5B
 
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Now that the Death Battle theme has finally calmed down. What do you guys think:

Why don't we scale Mimihagi to Tier 5-B equal to the weakened Soul King. Since he prevented worlds from being destroyed temporarily when Ichigo split the Soul King in half. With the current planetary scale, it doesn't look like an Outlier. In fact, this could be the gateway for the Top Tier to enter Tier 5. And we didn't scale Ichigo Dangai, Mugetsu and Monster Aizen for the 5-A.
New scaling for "top tiers" is in the works behind the scenes. Mimihagi scaling is iffy tho cuz he could have just used Reio as a vessel.

Didnt he just Use Jushiro‘s body and used up all of his Reiryoku to do that?
If anything Jushiro should be 5B
No, not what happened.
 
New scaling for "top tiers" is in the works behind the scenes. Mimihagi scaling is iffy tho cuz he could have just used Reio as a vessel.


No, not what happened.
I understand, good to know (is this related to Azashiro?). My idea was that if Mimihagi was accepted as a 5-B, we could scale Pernidas for him.
 
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I understand, good to know (is this related to Azashiro?). My idea was that if Mimihagi was accepted as a 5-B, we could scale Pernidas for him.
Azashiro is a wild card atm, but there's other things. Scaling Pernida to Mimihagi because they're both arms is a little suspect.
 
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Now that I think about it, Death Battle reasoning kind of makes sense. Aizen could be immune to Existence Erasure (Hado 54) since Mayuri has data on every power and he stated Aizen couldn’t be killed. However, Aizen got taken out with a TSB because his regeneration was treated as a Ninjutsu and negated with a TSB. I don’t know why they focused on “damaging his soul” while only mentioning regeneration negation once. In the last battle, Yhwach’s power prevented Aizen’s limbs and injuries from regenerating. Aizen who had Instant fast regeneration could only do so off-screen after Yhwach was defeated and sealed. Aizen doesn’t have resistance to regeneration negation.
 
Now that I think about it, Death Battle reasoning kind of makes sense. Aizen could be immune to Existence Erasure (Hado 54) since Mayuri has data on every power and he stated Aizen couldn’t be killed. However, Aizen got taken out with a TSB because his regeneration was treated as a Ninjutsu and negated with a TSB. I don’t know why they focused on “damaging his soul” while only mentioning regeneration negation once. In the last battle, Yhwach’s power prevented Aizen’s limbs and injuries from regenerating. Aizen who had Instant fast regeneration could only do so off-screen after Yhwach was defeated and sealed. Aizen doesn’t have resistance to regeneration negation.
Since when does it make sense to treat Aizen's Regen as Ninjutsu? I don't see how the two can be equalized.
 
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Apple sped run the stages of grief and landed at acceptance 🤣
Don’t know what you mean. I said Madara was going to win. Never changed my vote, is on the Death Battle thread here in VSBW you can go check. I’ve only questioned the wrong research and explained it.
 
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New scaling for "top tiers" is in the works behind the scenes. Mimihagi scaling is iffy tho cuz he could have just used Reio as a vessel.


No, not what happened.
Idk whether this might be a downgrade or upgrade based on the upcoming multiplier thread lol

Not trying to be a Debbie downer but the only reason Bleach has any High 6A characters is because of multipliers 😅 Low key though, I wouldn’t mind it being a downgrade, considering the 2 best feats in the verse barring Senna’s and Yhwach’s feats are only 6A. As a small example, Jugram is High 6A yet was completely shitting his pants at Gremmy’s meteor that’s only 6A
 
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@Arc, honestly, I really hope you aren’t gonna try and use SAFWY as a staple to upgrade people. Because even though you say only a few characters scale to that version of Kenpachi, that means everyone who is above him (Unohana, Ryod) scale to him and every character comparable to them lol
 
@Arc, honestly, I really hope you aren’t gonna try and use SAFWY as a staple to upgrade people. Because even though you say only a few characters scale to that version of Kenpachi, that means everyone who is above him (Unohana, Ryod) scale to him and every character comparable to them lol
Guy, pretty much any Top Tier Bleach character that gets raised to Tier 5 will end up taking 80% of the cast with him.
 
Idk whether this might be a downgrade or upgrade based on the upcoming multiplier thread lol

Not trying to be a Debbie downer but the only reason Bleach has any High 6A characters is because of multipliers 😅 Low key though, I wouldn’t mind it being a downgrade, considering the 2 best feats in the verse barring Senna’s and Yhwach’s feats are only 6A. As a small example, Jugram is High 6A yet was completely shitting his pants at Gremmy’s meteor that’s only 6A
You are sounding like someone who doesn't know difference between AP and DC. So are you telling just so Goku got hurt by laser he is laser level 😹.
 
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Does anyone have the full translations for SAFWY by any chance? i can only find the cliff notes version of it on some random Deviant Art's account.
 
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Mimihagi is not 5B. it is literally stated by yoruichi he grabbed the corpse to stabilise everything.
Kubo is vague as usual even with SK substitution. Let’s just wait the hell chapter and the anime to touch god tier Or scaling Again pleas.
 
Best feat in Clorox is Yhwack lifting Wandenreich.Universelevel was a Meme from the first second.

From what come Planetlevel?Sennas feat?Considering she sacrificed a unquantifiable number of blanks and herself, I don’t see who qualifies.
 
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What about giving Mimihagi Varies from Tier X / Ukitake to Tier Y / Soul King depending on who it is connected to?
Mimihagi honestly shouldn't even have a set tier, What he did to Soul King wasn't something that can be scaled towards Attack Potency but rather its ability to "Stagnate" things.

It should be put at Unknown and be granted Conceptual Manipulation via Embodying the Concept of Stagnation and being able to us its embodiment in a Combat-Applicable way.
 
Mimihagi honestly shouldn't even have a set tier, What he did to Soul King wasn't something that can be scaled towards Attack Potency but rather its ability to "Stagnate" things.

It should be put at Unknown and be granted Conceptual Manipulation via Embodying the Concept of Stagnation and being able to us its embodiment in a Combat-Applicable way.
Sounds good.
 
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Best feat in Clorox is Yhwack lifting Wandenreich.Universelevel was a Meme from the first second.

From what come Planetlevel?Sennas feat?Considering she sacrificed a unquantifiable number of blanks and herself, I don’t see who qualifies.
wrong verse

this is bleach

u need to look for the clorox general thread discussion
 
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Best feat in Clorox is Yhwack lifting Wandenreich.Universelevel was a Meme from the first second.

From what come Planetlevel?Sennas feat?Considering she sacrificed a unquantifiable number of blanks and herself, I don’t see who qualifies.
to u and people that did not like it, sure


have u read bleach? like at all?

cus if u have read the verse this question answers itself
 
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Does anyone know how far does Bleach scale into 5-A? since no calc or scale is given in the actual page for Bleach nor any of the characters profiles.
 
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