Baby fodder fights a bird (Pigeon vs The Toddler)

[H3110l12345I20]

Yes.

SBA; Speed is equalized, the largest pigeon will be used.

Baby:

Birb:

Incon: 1-ish (Flashlight237,

Battle theme:

 

[Flashlight237]

Yeah, this would be the most boring Inconclusive ever. Like, I don't care what end you're using for a pigeon; what the hell is a toddler going to do against it? Like aside from a couple extra intelligence points and maybe a lifting strength feat or two, you're basically pitting a straight-up toddler against a pigeon. All you're going to get is a match with a bird constantly kiting a stumbling toddler until it gets bored.

It's not like a pigeon can do anything to a toddler either. Pigeons aren't exactly out for blood. If it were a rat instead, then yeah, I can certainly see the rat winning because, you know, there's an actual criminal case that happened because rats gored an infant!

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Yeah, this would be the most boring Inconclusive ever. Like, I don't care what end you're using for a pigeon; what the hell is a toddler going to do against it? Like aside from a couple extra intelligence points and maybe a lifting strength feat or two, you're basically pitting a straight-up toddler against a pigeon. All you're going to get is a match with a bird constantly kiting a stumbling toddler until it gets bored.

It's not like a pigeon can do anything to a toddler either. Pigeons aren't exactly out for blood. If it were a rat instead, then yeah, I can certainly see the rat winning because, you know, there's an actual criminal case that happened because rats gored an infant!

I mean, I wanted to start small with them. I don't wanna be Bigsmoke 2.0.

This match doesn't seem broken, so I'll just count your incon vote in a couple of replies.

Isn't the toddler like, physically far stronger? Can't it just incap the pigeon as a wincon since it's trying to win at something?

 

[Flashlight237]

That's the issue. Pigeons fly, and that's basically going to be their first reaction when something larger than them is approaching, usually when they're still a decent ways out of someone's reach. That's the reason why adults have a hard time trying to grab birds with their bare hands, let alone toddlers.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

That's the issue. Pigeons fly, and that's basically going to be their first reaction when something larger than them is approaching, usually when they're still a decent ways out of someone's reach. That's the reason why adults have a hard time trying to grab birds with their bare hands, let alone toddlers.

What's the difference tho? Is the child being a child here going to be harder than IRL people trying to grab a quicker, smaller bird to under Speed Equalized?

 

[Flashlight237]

Yes. Not only are they still functionally a toddler (which are usually clumsy and either skittish or sluggish), the profile despite the toddler's intelligence key points seems more geared towards the toddler's flight response than their fight response (which the fact that the game is about a toddler trying to get away from their alcoholic mother doesn't really help).

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Yes. Not only are they still functionally a toddler (which are usually clumsy and either skittish or sluggish), the profile despite the toddler's intelligence key points seems more geared towards the toddler's flight response than their fight response (which the fact that the game is about a toddler trying to get away from their alcoholic mother doesn't really help).

The pigeon has more stamina, can't the pigeon out exhaust the child, and then start pecking to cause lacerations from there?

 

[Flashlight237]

The pigeon has more stamina, can't the pigeon out exhaust the child, and then start pecking to cause lacerations from there?

I mean, it can try, although that is not its go-to strategy.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

I mean, it can try, although that is not its go-to strategy.

Some pigeons do have combat exp and know how to deal with predators, the toddler is your traditional helpless protag, but halariously young.

I guess the pigeon could win via stamina and exp if the battle goes on long enough. The toddler is well... a kid and if the battle goes on long enough, you could make the argument they'll try to flee the pigeon eventually. So loss via BFR is there.

 

[Arkansalter2]

COUGHING BABY VS COUGHING BABY BUT FLYING.
This is an incon and a half tho.

 

[Flashlight237]

Some pigeons do have combat exp and know how to deal with predators, the toddler is your traditional helpless protag, but halariously young.

I guess the pigeon could win via stamina and exp if the battle goes on long enough. The toddler is well... a kid and if the battle goes on long enough, you could make the argument they'll try to flee the pigeon eventually. So loss via BFR is there.

If only if it worked like that according to SBA. I'll stick with a firm Inconclusive.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

If only if it worked like that according to SBA. I'll stick with a firm Inconclusive.

How would it be out of character if the battle was like, 1 hr or more and the pigeon has way more stamina to kite a child that will exhaust eventually? If the battle was like, minutes on end I'd be more in inclined to say incon. At that point the kid is going to eventually have learned helplessness to a savage bird that it can't win against.

And no, I'm not saying that exhaustion is the main method of attack for the bird. How would the child still have the energy or motive to fight if the battle becomes too prolonged?