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The third game has come out, and it’s time to make some heavy changes.
LS and AP
To start with, there are two new feats we need to look at:
Grazie’s Lifting Strength Feat, creating essentially a creating giant sand castle around the UTU Media Tower, I didn’t calc it yet, but I’m quite sure this scales to AT LEAST Gunvolt, as he is capable of straight up grabbing her projectiles, and shoving them right back at her- one shotting her with her own attack. I didn’t calculate the feat yet, but there’s no reason why people don’t scale to this feat, even Kirin can run away from her sand twisters that try to pull her in.
ZED’s “sun” creation feat. This is going to be the primary AP feat for Gunvolt 3, so let's prove that this is a real star or sun creation feat. First off, a fireball of this size is NOT enough to turn what is a stormy, windy, night into a clear sky all the way to the HORIZON. A simple fireball cannot do this, not of that size and color. Zed explains how his power is the Septima of the Sun, meaning it can replicate the sun- and Gunvolt goes on a tirade about how he can control nuclear fusion and generate an unlimited amount of energy just like his Azure Striker. The Website goes on to say his nuclear fusion is equivalent to that of the sun as well, it’s safe to assume he’s making a sun like object. His Luxcalibur-like attack, Rexcalibur, can also destroy countries
Whoever scales to this, including the Binding Brands (the original versions of the Glaives, which give ATEMS bosses their powers), would be High 6-B, likely High 6-A based on Zed’s sun feats alone, but High 6-A can also come from the next point:
Gunvolt’s Vanishing World, and the implication of him destroying the world. Ever since March 31st, 2022, Gunvolt has been hyped up to be an absolute monstrous powerhouse in promotions related to the topic. The New Game Expo+ footage pretty much tells you that he’s invincible and the English translators simply just say that he’s broken, the website saying he’s awakened to a new power beyond Septimas and that in Anthem, one wrong step and a disaster may occur, the trailer saying the same, pretty much every INTi stream that ever covers Gunvolt’s abilities has the commentators saying how powerful he is, the fact that he has so many moves that are honestly, unnecessary to defeat foes. And in game, he has also been revealed to have been powering his country for decades and solving all of the country’s energy problems, his electricity being called “Gunvolt Electric”. In the screenshot where this is shown to be a possible future, we don’t exactly get a timeframe of what happens, however as seen with his most powerful attack appropriately named “Vanishing World”, there is a case to be made that Gunvolt can do this in one attack. INTi has a history, at least in the English versions, to be literal with their attack names: Total Blackout, Sonic Spiral, Armageddon Ray, Frigid Stasis, Terminal Detonation, Obliteration Blast, Blazing Tempest, Resurrection, Lazy Laser, Twin Shredder, Luxcalibur, Voltaic Chains, Aqua Avatar, Entangled Strands, I’m quite sure Vanishing World fits in the same category of how literal this is. I say that we use the simple reference calc for High 6-A, and since this move can trigger anywhere, including on the ground- we use the Ground-Based explosion here. Zed is apparently comparable to Gunvolt in Azure Striker Gunvolt 3, so he could scale.
There’s also the argument to be made that Nova and Zonda scale to this, as GV comments that Moebius’s power is stronger than Nova and Zonda, but never any time before that, suggesting that Nova and Zonda at full power / Muse Powers were stronger than any threat in the game up until that point, Moebius being stronger than Gunvolt’s Dragon State
Now, I should probably explain how this isn’t an outlier, because I know that’s coming- along with additional evidence that Gunvolt’s High 6-A should at least be a possibility, or a likely. Let’s talk about the scale of the Gunvolt verse, and what it’s about. Azure Striker Gunvolt takes place in a dystopian world, where almost every country in the world has been decimated by a superhuman race called Adepts. To quote Fleeting Memories:
GV has been hyped up throughout the promotion of the series to need 1000 Glaives, turned into a dragon, have the website say how dangerous and out of control his power is and it may cause disaster, Vanishing World, pretty much the entire game saying "hey yo GV is dangerous Kirin you gotta take care of him", his Gameplay being absolute broken, there's no way he isn't at this level, especially at the end where he gets a vision of him destroying the world, the Muse is constantly planned to be doing something on a global scale, Demerzel's influence is worldwide and Sumeragi is worldwide in iX, Zed wants to rule the world, Zonda wants to commit global genocide, Dragon Radiation: worldwide (Kirin says that its a worldwide issue, and Dragon Radiation has been everywhere since GV turned into one and only now is it showing up as a bad thing), Dragon Radiation from Moebius has ****** over the whole world same with GV. Primal Dragons are a level ascendant to Septima. Moebius changes the fate of the world. As of Fleeting Memories Adepts raze countries to nothing but scorched earth (see above), Rexcalibur can raze countries (see above again). According to Zed Sumeragi refers to GV as all powerful, GV himself can generate a limitless amount of energy to power the entire country (Gunvolt Electric, solving the energy crisis that has plagued the world even BEFORE the series started (Project Gunvolt)), there are Dragon Veins flowing through the land that are stabilized by important binding brands. There's a lot of evidence pointing to this series being "world level", and every time it's through a Septima, only this time, ones that affect it physically. There’s more evidence in the Zed calc itself, so- if one is still not convinced, they can go there.
Moebius
Now here comes the part the mods are probably looking into, 2-A multiversal hax. This only came to mind after the recent Bleach Thread came along. I personally don’t really like it, but I have to be as unbiased as I can and at least give it consideration. Let’s review Moebius’s ability:
Moebius’s Octima: Astral Order, allows Moebius to look at innumerable (countless in Japanese) futures and choose one to his liking, much like Bleach’s Yhwach. The amount is treated as “countless” or too many to be counted. Now, I understand that there’s guides for Yhwach’s case that go out of their way to say he sees infinite futures, but here it’s treated as if any future is possible for Moebius- the characters assume that Moebius would automatically choose the worse one, and Zed wants to use its power to guide it to his exact ideal world in general, they even call Moebius’s power omnipotent (of course, NLF), and treat it like it can achieve anything, including the worst possible outcome (which is why the Moebius Boss Fight happens). Plus, like with the argument in Bleach, countless / innumerable can very easily be an infinite number of futures. Also, like Bleach where its described that the Almighty sees each future like grains of sand on the beach, Astral Order chooses from a “wide sea of countless stars”. Based on these interactions of how characters treat Astral Order like it can do anything and assume the worst possible outcomes right away- along with its description by Zed and other smaller supporting evidences- It seems like the writers’ intent was that Moebius can see infinite futures, not just an unknown multiple. For more supporting evidence, Copen in Luminous Avenger iX2 theorizes that there could be an infinite amount of other universes in the ASG Cosmology- of course, he's just guessing, but it's there in the game for a reason.
If that doesn’t pass, then “tier” will this hax be? Innumerable / Countless is already described, and Gunvolt already sees a multitude of futures destroyed by his hand- 2-C? 2-B? Possibly 2-A?
If we want to really lowball, we can segway that into the next topic: Damnatio Memoriae. By definition, Damnatio Memoriae is Latin for "condemnation of memory", indicating that a person is to be excluded from official accounts, as if they didn’t exist. Here, Moebius is doing it literally. I don’t know what to classify this as, but we do get a hint here: the japanese version of Damnatio Memorie has a simple name: “Erasing Existence”. From what we can see in the SP Skill animation, Moebius attempts to cut off (cut off the line that likely represents timeline, as each are separated from each other) every possible past versions of the victim that leads up to the person that is currently fighting him, destroying all versions of the subject’s past that led them to that point and erasing them from existence. In the video, there are events that don’t actually happen in the main story, such as Gunvolt and Asimov teaming up on Zonda, when in the main story, Asimov should be dead at that time- in addition, Asimov is wearing his glasses while using his Azure Striker Septima, when he normally has to take those off to use his Septima. Of course, this is all an educated guess, so… maybe this would be more of a “possibly/likely Timeline Manipulation and Existence Erasure”- but honestly I feel like it’s pretty clear cut.
There's also the fact that the target either is damaged or Prevades this attack, but isn't instantly killed. So does that mean Type 1 Acausality or just normal resistance if we accord to the above?
Notice that I said “possible pasts (timelines of their past) represented lines”, we could possibly scale Damnatio Memorie to Astral Order’s hax tier- as there is only so many (time)lines drawn on the screen (19 of them), we could lowball Astral Order’s hax to be 19 universes (2-C) to be concrete, and attach a “possibly/likely” Multiversal+ Astral Order.
So for conclusions for Astral Order, it’d be Precognition and Fate Manipulation (4D - Low Multiversal, possibly/likely Multiversal+), but I'll let the mods be the judge of this. Of course, abilities that help resist Astral Order such as Golden Trillion and Djinn (and The Muse due to being the same type of Stand)
Astral Order Gunvolt
As we know, Moebius absorbs Gunvolt at the end of the game, fusing the two together to create "Moebius-Gunvolt". In the original ending, Kirin seals Moebius within Gunvolt as the the two fly off in an orb of light, but in the canon extended version of the new ending goes into detail on what exactly happened. It's a lot of plot speculation, but for our purpose as powerscalers, they conveniently made it extremely clear that Gunvolt now has control over Moebius's Astral Order. With that, Gunvolt gains any ability that Moebius has, as he basically has fused with the guy. Which to my dismay.... means a Multiversal+ Gunvolt.
A small Jota thing
Also Jota has a high frequency blade without his Glaive, I can't prove that this gives us Dura Negation, but it's there to list in the P&A section
LS and AP
To start with, there are two new feats we need to look at:
Grazie’s Lifting Strength Feat, creating essentially a creating giant sand castle around the UTU Media Tower, I didn’t calc it yet, but I’m quite sure this scales to AT LEAST Gunvolt, as he is capable of straight up grabbing her projectiles, and shoving them right back at her- one shotting her with her own attack. I didn’t calculate the feat yet, but there’s no reason why people don’t scale to this feat, even Kirin can run away from her sand twisters that try to pull her in.
ZED’s “sun” creation feat. This is going to be the primary AP feat for Gunvolt 3, so let's prove that this is a real star or sun creation feat. First off, a fireball of this size is NOT enough to turn what is a stormy, windy, night into a clear sky all the way to the HORIZON. A simple fireball cannot do this, not of that size and color. Zed explains how his power is the Septima of the Sun, meaning it can replicate the sun- and Gunvolt goes on a tirade about how he can control nuclear fusion and generate an unlimited amount of energy just like his Azure Striker. The Website goes on to say his nuclear fusion is equivalent to that of the sun as well, it’s safe to assume he’s making a sun like object. His Luxcalibur-like attack, Rexcalibur, can also destroy countries
Whoever scales to this, including the Binding Brands (the original versions of the Glaives, which give ATEMS bosses their powers), would be High 6-B, likely High 6-A based on Zed’s sun feats alone, but High 6-A can also come from the next point:
Gunvolt’s Vanishing World, and the implication of him destroying the world. Ever since March 31st, 2022, Gunvolt has been hyped up to be an absolute monstrous powerhouse in promotions related to the topic. The New Game Expo+ footage pretty much tells you that he’s invincible and the English translators simply just say that he’s broken, the website saying he’s awakened to a new power beyond Septimas and that in Anthem, one wrong step and a disaster may occur, the trailer saying the same, pretty much every INTi stream that ever covers Gunvolt’s abilities has the commentators saying how powerful he is, the fact that he has so many moves that are honestly, unnecessary to defeat foes. And in game, he has also been revealed to have been powering his country for decades and solving all of the country’s energy problems, his electricity being called “Gunvolt Electric”. In the screenshot where this is shown to be a possible future, we don’t exactly get a timeframe of what happens, however as seen with his most powerful attack appropriately named “Vanishing World”, there is a case to be made that Gunvolt can do this in one attack. INTi has a history, at least in the English versions, to be literal with their attack names: Total Blackout, Sonic Spiral, Armageddon Ray, Frigid Stasis, Terminal Detonation, Obliteration Blast, Blazing Tempest, Resurrection, Lazy Laser, Twin Shredder, Luxcalibur, Voltaic Chains, Aqua Avatar, Entangled Strands, I’m quite sure Vanishing World fits in the same category of how literal this is. I say that we use the simple reference calc for High 6-A, and since this move can trigger anywhere, including on the ground- we use the Ground-Based explosion here. Zed is apparently comparable to Gunvolt in Azure Striker Gunvolt 3, so he could scale.
There’s also the argument to be made that Nova and Zonda scale to this, as GV comments that Moebius’s power is stronger than Nova and Zonda, but never any time before that, suggesting that Nova and Zonda at full power / Muse Powers were stronger than any threat in the game up until that point, Moebius being stronger than Gunvolt’s Dragon State
Now, I should probably explain how this isn’t an outlier, because I know that’s coming- along with additional evidence that Gunvolt’s High 6-A should at least be a possibility, or a likely. Let’s talk about the scale of the Gunvolt verse, and what it’s about. Azure Striker Gunvolt takes place in a dystopian world, where almost every country in the world has been decimated by a superhuman race called Adepts. To quote Fleeting Memories:
GV has been hyped up throughout the promotion of the series to need 1000 Glaives, turned into a dragon, have the website say how dangerous and out of control his power is and it may cause disaster, Vanishing World, pretty much the entire game saying "hey yo GV is dangerous Kirin you gotta take care of him", his Gameplay being absolute broken, there's no way he isn't at this level, especially at the end where he gets a vision of him destroying the world, the Muse is constantly planned to be doing something on a global scale, Demerzel's influence is worldwide and Sumeragi is worldwide in iX, Zed wants to rule the world, Zonda wants to commit global genocide, Dragon Radiation: worldwide (Kirin says that its a worldwide issue, and Dragon Radiation has been everywhere since GV turned into one and only now is it showing up as a bad thing), Dragon Radiation from Moebius has ****** over the whole world same with GV. Primal Dragons are a level ascendant to Septima. Moebius changes the fate of the world. As of Fleeting Memories Adepts raze countries to nothing but scorched earth (see above), Rexcalibur can raze countries (see above again). According to Zed Sumeragi refers to GV as all powerful, GV himself can generate a limitless amount of energy to power the entire country (Gunvolt Electric, solving the energy crisis that has plagued the world even BEFORE the series started (Project Gunvolt)), there are Dragon Veins flowing through the land that are stabilized by important binding brands. There's a lot of evidence pointing to this series being "world level", and every time it's through a Septima, only this time, ones that affect it physically. There’s more evidence in the Zed calc itself, so- if one is still not convinced, they can go there.
Moebius
Now here comes the part the mods are probably looking into, 2-A multiversal hax. This only came to mind after the recent Bleach Thread came along. I personally don’t really like it, but I have to be as unbiased as I can and at least give it consideration. Let’s review Moebius’s ability:
Moebius’s Octima: Astral Order, allows Moebius to look at innumerable (countless in Japanese) futures and choose one to his liking, much like Bleach’s Yhwach. The amount is treated as “countless” or too many to be counted. Now, I understand that there’s guides for Yhwach’s case that go out of their way to say he sees infinite futures, but here it’s treated as if any future is possible for Moebius- the characters assume that Moebius would automatically choose the worse one, and Zed wants to use its power to guide it to his exact ideal world in general, they even call Moebius’s power omnipotent (of course, NLF), and treat it like it can achieve anything, including the worst possible outcome (which is why the Moebius Boss Fight happens). Plus, like with the argument in Bleach, countless / innumerable can very easily be an infinite number of futures. Also, like Bleach where its described that the Almighty sees each future like grains of sand on the beach, Astral Order chooses from a “wide sea of countless stars”. Based on these interactions of how characters treat Astral Order like it can do anything and assume the worst possible outcomes right away- along with its description by Zed and other smaller supporting evidences- It seems like the writers’ intent was that Moebius can see infinite futures, not just an unknown multiple. For more supporting evidence, Copen in Luminous Avenger iX2 theorizes that there could be an infinite amount of other universes in the ASG Cosmology- of course, he's just guessing, but it's there in the game for a reason.
If that doesn’t pass, then “tier” will this hax be? Innumerable / Countless is already described, and Gunvolt already sees a multitude of futures destroyed by his hand- 2-C? 2-B? Possibly 2-A?
If we want to really lowball, we can segway that into the next topic: Damnatio Memoriae. By definition, Damnatio Memoriae is Latin for "condemnation of memory", indicating that a person is to be excluded from official accounts, as if they didn’t exist. Here, Moebius is doing it literally. I don’t know what to classify this as, but we do get a hint here: the japanese version of Damnatio Memorie has a simple name: “Erasing Existence”. From what we can see in the SP Skill animation, Moebius attempts to cut off (cut off the line that likely represents timeline, as each are separated from each other) every possible past versions of the victim that leads up to the person that is currently fighting him, destroying all versions of the subject’s past that led them to that point and erasing them from existence. In the video, there are events that don’t actually happen in the main story, such as Gunvolt and Asimov teaming up on Zonda, when in the main story, Asimov should be dead at that time- in addition, Asimov is wearing his glasses while using his Azure Striker Septima, when he normally has to take those off to use his Septima. Of course, this is all an educated guess, so… maybe this would be more of a “possibly/likely Timeline Manipulation and Existence Erasure”- but honestly I feel like it’s pretty clear cut.
There's also the fact that the target either is damaged or Prevades this attack, but isn't instantly killed. So does that mean Type 1 Acausality or just normal resistance if we accord to the above?
Notice that I said “possible pasts (timelines of their past) represented lines”, we could possibly scale Damnatio Memorie to Astral Order’s hax tier- as there is only so many (time)lines drawn on the screen (19 of them), we could lowball Astral Order’s hax to be 19 universes (2-C) to be concrete, and attach a “possibly/likely” Multiversal+ Astral Order.
So for conclusions for Astral Order, it’d be Precognition and Fate Manipulation (4D - Low Multiversal, possibly/likely Multiversal+), but I'll let the mods be the judge of this. Of course, abilities that help resist Astral Order such as Golden Trillion and Djinn (and The Muse due to being the same type of Stand)
Astral Order Gunvolt
As we know, Moebius absorbs Gunvolt at the end of the game, fusing the two together to create "Moebius-Gunvolt". In the original ending, Kirin seals Moebius within Gunvolt as the the two fly off in an orb of light, but in the canon extended version of the new ending goes into detail on what exactly happened. It's a lot of plot speculation, but for our purpose as powerscalers, they conveniently made it extremely clear that Gunvolt now has control over Moebius's Astral Order. With that, Gunvolt gains any ability that Moebius has, as he basically has fused with the guy. Which to my dismay.... means a Multiversal+ Gunvolt.
A small Jota thing
Also Jota has a high frequency blade without his Glaive, I can't prove that this gives us Dura Negation, but it's there to list in the P&A section
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