Arceus vs. Ogudomon

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

This Digiguy looks haxxed, and I've never seen a match for him before. Good thing Burning exists, right? I think this is my first Arceus match. Let's see how well it goes for the llama dude.

Arceus:

Ogudomo:

Inconclusive: 3

Standard Battle Assumptions, though I doubt it matters. >_>

This is Incomplete Arceus. He's missing the Bug Plate. Use Ogudomon's 2-C rating and his Infinite speed. So, who gets wrecked?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So basically this is Arceus vs Lucemon..ovo

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

...which of how many plates?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Just get rid of the Bug Plate.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Hmm? I don't understand the plates thing. Assume he has the ones that give him the most hax.

Oh, okay.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Well, a lot of Ogudomon's hax gets no-sold now, but there are some things that aren't. Furthermore, Ogudomon no-sells a few things by Arceus as well. Arceus bypasses the malice invulnerability due to predating the concept of emotion, and I don't know how either get past the other's immortality, type 9 for Arceus and type 8 for Ogudomon.

I need more time, tho I'm inevitably going to be voting for Arceus, knowing me.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well, sealing is always a thing. And Ogudomon has Lucemon's OP sealing.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Only one llama body would be sealed tho.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, sealing is whatever type Aura equates to...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I don't think sealing has a type.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Which of Ogudomon's hax is Arceus resistant to because of his plates?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

That's a Good Question. Well Cal? Speak now or forever hold your peace...ovo

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sigh...fine

Sound, Hellfire, Chain, Poison, Illusion, Aura, Gravity, Magic, Dream, Space-Time, Elemental, Light, Dark, Probabilty (as long as it's limited like Ogu's profile states), Energy, Mind, Sleep, Death, and Soul.

A few more comes from how Arceus exists. Like how morality won't exist

 

[PaChi2]

Ogudomon's techniques fall under Dark type because... nvm, just read ogudomon's description.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Which leaves:

-Sealing

-Regen Negation

-Type 8 Immortality

-I'm iffy on Death Hax but meh

-I fail to see how Arceus' existence stops Morality Hax.

-Conceptual Destruction

-Existence Erasure

As long as Arceus has even the intent to kill Ogudomon (Which could be malice) since he is the same tier, his basic attacks won't do much in the way of hurting him. (Kinda making Ogudomon more useful than Zeed when it comes to stuff). This is a big maybe though.

-Attack Reflection

-Dead or Alive is kinda iffy..As it either has a 50% chance of killing you or a 50% chance of damaging you severely.

-And a certain power I don't feel like mentioning...Causes too many problems....

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Well you mentioned sealing twice.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Oops.

 

[PaChi2]

Dead or alive is probably both dark and fairy/Light.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Morality Manipulation is possibly canceled by the Dark Type because the original translation is Evil Type.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_(type)

@PaChi2

Also by the ghost type due to Destiny Bond.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also, question. Doesn't Arceus have to switch to these plates to stop said attacks. As such he doesn't have all of them on per second?

 

[PaChi2]

Attack reflection is psychic/Fight normally

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Attack reflection is psychic/Fight normally

Attack Reflection is not an attack....

 

[NeoZex6399]

^^^^This.

 

[PaChi2]

Hm, I thought wobbuffed used an attack reflection technique.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yes, he reflected an attack. He didn't actually attack at all. And even then said reflected attack is still the power that was used to make it. So if Ogudomon Reflected Judgement. Judgement wouldn't automatically become psychic or fighting.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Arceus cancels the attack that is reflected but I do not think it cancels the ability to reflect attacks.

 

[PaChi2]

Type 8 immortality can be overriden by characters with Conceptual manipulation like Arceus, can it not?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Depends of if Arceus has Conceptual Destruction.

 

[PaChi2]

You can untie someone from the concept they embody, right?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I didn't know Arceus could do that. But is possible. If said character can indeed do such a thing.

 

[PaChi2]

Well, its what he did with palkia and dialga backwards, not sure if he can do that, tho.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I mean we know he created 6 total concepts. but I dunno if he can destriy them.

 

[PaChi2]

Voting for Arceus because he can summon the creation trio. lol

4 vs 1 seems fair.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The creation trio are fodder here. They are only Low 2-C. They'd just be half-time entertainment. ovo

 

[PaChi2]

Nah, he summons the unsealed versions because I say so. ovo

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

....Then could I make Ogudomon 2-A then? ovo

 

[PaChi2]

... if you want this to be closed as a stomp, sure. ovo

 

[NeoZex6399]

Dialga and Palkia are able to erase the spirit and the emotions as an aspect of reality and given that these two are part of Arceus it is assumed that he can also do so.

Although the concept of Sin is another thing I think I will vote inconclusive because none of them can regenerate and the 2 have it very difficult to harm each other.

 

[PaChi2]

Arceus has recover, for whatever that is worth.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And Type 8 Immortality also works kinda like regen in a way. Plus we haven't even discussed Karma yet. And has no one addressed the list of powers I mentioned?