Anarchy route nanashi vs joker from persona 5

[Herogamer04]

Endgame verisons who wins?

 

[Herogamer04]

Bump

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Are they both the same number of layers into 1-A?

 

[Rez]

I don't know much about smt scaling but Anarchy route Nanashi should scales to or above YHWH in other words he stomps

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Doesn't True Endgame Joker scale to Adam Kadmon?

 

[GoldExPoints]

I don't know much about smt scaling but Anarchy route Nanashi should scales to or above YHWH in other words he stomps

Endgame Joker can superficially damage Adam Kadmon, who's "the closest emanation of the Great Reason" which makes him layers above the Great Will or the true form of YHVH, another emanation of the Great Reason. In other words, Joker shitstomps

 

[GoldExPoints]

If this was Messiahs in the Diamond Realm Nanashi, it might be fair since they're the same number of layers into 1-A (Stephen supposedly being equal in layers to Adam Kadmon due to directly touching and observing the Great Reason, and Nanashi being able to fight a casual Stephen)

 

[Lukewoesal007]

If this was Messiahs in the Diamond Realm Nanashi, it might be fair since they're the same number of layers into 1-A (Stephen supposedly being equal in layers to Adam Kadmon due to directly touching and observing the Great Reason, and Nanashi being able to fight a casual Stephen)

What exactly does "Endgame Nanshi" refer to? His Late-Game or New God keys?

 

[GoldExPoints]

It seems to be Late-Game Nanashi, since this is Anarchy Route Nanashi

 

[MishimaBloodline]

I personally don't think Stephen is equal to Adam Kadmon. Adam Kadmon is the source and destination of all existence in the MTverse, while Stephen was simply given an undisclosed amount of power (although we do know it is above everything in the series so far, except for again, Adam Kadmon in my opinion) by interacting with the Axiom. I mean, even the wiki states that Adam Kadmon is the closest emanation we have to the Axiom.

 

[GoldExPoints]

You know by all considerations Stephen should be weaker than AK, yeah. But for some reason that's the wiki's statements. I guess you could make a case that Stephen only gained power from the Axiom and is not a direct emanation of it like AK, so he wouldn't be part of AK's scaling.