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An evil fire god fights an incomplete llama

Hmm interesting fight, Arceus does appear to have more abilities but Dormammu's regen could be a problem
 
Nothing stops him from eventually BFRing or erasing Arceus. Arceus doesn't have a way to get past his regen.
 
BTW Dormammu's void manipulation is quite superior to Arceus, it's been used on Mutli-Universe scale against the likes of Eternity.
 
Arceus can't kill him due to his regen...

But non lethal methods can work, and I don't see Dormammu putting down Arceus.

Arcues Mid Diffs.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Arceus can't kill him due to his regen...
But non lethal methods can work, and I don't see Dormammu putting down Arceus.

Arcues Mid Diffs.
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What non lethal exactly?
 
^Good Question...

Void Manipulation and Conceptual manipulation are both useless and everything else is done better by Dorm
 
^Yup.

Thing is, what can Arceus do about Dormammu's void manipualtion? Arceus doesn't have decent Regenerationn, and Dormammu has very potent void manipulation.
 
Type 9 immortality. And I'm pretty sure restoring a universe paradoxes out of existence, including Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, is just as good a showing.
 
The real cal howard said:
Type 9 immortality. And I'm pretty sure restoring a universe paradoxes out of existence, including Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, is just as good a showing.
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Well it will still be KO then, since Arceus won't be able to fight once its body is erased, aka incapacitated.
 
The real cal howard said:
Type 9 immortality. And I'm pretty sure restoring a universe paradoxes out of existence, including Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, is just as good a showing.
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Ahem....Paradoxing is useless against Mid-Godly
 
Gargoyle One said:
The real cal howard said:
Type 9 immortality. And I'm pretty sure restoring a universe paradoxes out of existence, including Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, is just as good a showing.
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Ahem....Paradoxing is useless against Mid-Godly
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The description of his mid godly regen is a bid weird. It sounds like low godly at best.
 
BTW, Dormammu can steal of Arceus plates, although not sure if that will be any useful. He's a master of stealing items from people

Should this go under power absorption? Not sure
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Type 9 immortality counters existence erasure. Combine this with sealing/dimensional BFR, OHKO, etc.
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OHKO is useless against Mid Godly, and Dormmamu has both.
 
Gargoyle One said:
OHKO is useless against Mid Godly, and Dormmamu has both.
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OHKO is also a NLF, also has Arceus (or any of the tier 2 pokemon) ever even used it in combat? Every single ability of Dormy is combat applicable with several feats
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Wait... OHKO is an NLF, but void manipulation bypassing type 9 immortality isn't?
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How is it NLF when it has explicit, on panel feat? Dormammu's void manipulation is the farthest from NLF, nothing like OHKO
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Type 9 immortality means destroying his soul or body won't do anything. Void manipulation would destroy a soul or a body.
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It can still incapacitate since Arceus doesn't have Regenerationn.
 
He does if he has to fight eventually, incapacitated state isn't useful for combat. Also, Dormammu has very powerful sealing (with actual feats, of course). He can seal Arceus if he wants.
 
Sealing is kinda paltry for Arceus. Giratina can BFR people to the distortion world. People who can create portals. And he still was planning to keep Dialga there. Arceus is >>>>>> that.


Obviously not voting. Just pulling a Fate.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
...You misunderstand. Type 9 immortality means he can't be incapacited by brute force.

Arceus has sealing too. Read his profile.
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Even Naruto has sealing. Not all sealing are equal. And void manipulation isn't brute force, it's hax.
 
Okay, now prove Dormammu's sealing is above Arceus.

And type 9 immortality counters bth physical AND soul based damage. Prove Dormammu can affect someone immune to both of those.
 
The real cal howard said:
Sealing is kinda paltry for Arceus. Giratina can BFR people to the distortion world. People who can create portals. And he still was planning to keep Dialga there. Arceus is >>>>>> that.

Obviously not voting. Just pulling a Fate.
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Dormammu has sealed Eternity who'll soon be 2-A (whenever Matthew finishes the revision), just pointing out.

BTW Dormammu's sealing isn't BFR, his sealing is binding where opponent is incapable of fighting, or doing anything. He has BFR too (to Dark Dimension), but the sealing is different.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Okay, now prove Dormammu's sealing is above Arceus.
And type 9 immortality counters bth physical AND soul based damage. Prove Dormammu can affect someone immune to both of those.
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Eternity, who's a non-corporeal abstract being. What more prove do you need? Now prove Arceus sealing is superior to Dormammu. Not BFR, but actual sealing where opponent is completely incapacitated.
 
Joseph619 said:
The real cal howard said:
Sealing is kinda paltry for Arceus. Giratina can BFR people to the distortion world. People who can create portals. And he still was planning to keep Dialga there. Arceus is >>>>>> that.

Obviously not voting. Just pulling a Fate.
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Dormammu has sealed Eternity who'll soon be 2-A (whenever Matthew finishes the revision), just pointing out.
BTW Dormammu's sealing isn't BFR, his sealing is binding where opponent is incapable of fighting, or doing anything. He has BFR too (to Dark Dimension), but the sealing is different.
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First off, Arceus can do both of those, read his profile. Second of all, Matt's not even done with the revision. If he gets upgraded to 2-A, Dormammu wins, yes. But unless he actually does get upgraded, for all intents and purposes his sealing is no above arceus.
 
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