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Adult Sasuke vs Avici Aizen

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This is a stomp, Sasuke stomps the verse ƒæî

Just a joke, I will wait for peeps
 
Sasuke has literally a ton of advantages here, from a stomp-worthy AP advantage to being able to resist illusions, mind manipulation, and perception manipulation on a planetary scale. It's honestly a mismatch by the wiki's standards, besides that these matches are banned.
 
Sasuke has the AP and likely Hax advantage, Speed is around equal considering the current Bleach ratings calc is wrong, which would make his speed around Mach 25k and Sasuke's around mach 32k

I'd give it to Sasuke, also prepare for the inevitable shitstorm that comes with any Naruto vs Sasuke thread.

On another note anyone who thinks any character from Bleach or Naruto capable of "soloing" the other verse doesn't know much about either verse, they both have immensely powerful characters, just a tip.
 
TataHakai said:
Sasuke has the AP and likely Hax advantage.
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Hardly the case, Sasuke only hax advantage is Genjutsu, as seeing in Boruto his Rinnegan has a limit time use before it starts bleeding. Sealing Aizen with a chibaku tensei is not gonna work, that rock is smaller than Perfect Susano'o which at the very least is mountain size, and single sword swing from Aizen can cut Komamura's Bankai in half, and let me add the gravity resistance of Aizen since chibaku tensei is a gravity seal nonetheless.

How is Sasuke gonna deal with Hado#99 which will absorbed every jutsu from Sasuke and make itself stronger to defend or attack in Aizen's favor?
 
Are we forgetting that u can literally overcome reiatsu crush with higher AP???

Also Hado 99 definitely sounds like a NLF.

Sasuke's rinnegan limit doesn't really show until he starts to use spatial jutsus to travel between far dimensions.
 
> overcome with higher AP

Not true, resisting it is inherently a verse mechanic via having a strong soul. Orihime is a good example via standing near stage 2 Ulquiorra. It has like 6 different effects but it all depends on the durability of your soul keeping it simple.

> Hado 99 NLF

It's a spell that uses the surrounding spiritual energy as fuel to make itself stronger.
 
>It's a spell that uses the surrounding spiritual energy as fuel to make itself stronger.

yeah no he has to show he can absorb 5-B levels of energy.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
When has Sasuke shown feats of resisting energy absorption?
"Sasuke has a stronger soul" based off what? Because I don't see a resistance to soul manipulation to even argue it here.
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you don tneed feats that is how it works, the user of the absorbtion has to show the level of absorption to affect the opponent, not to mention that sasuke can counter absorb with the rinnengan anyway.
 
And to applelord, no aizen does not have resistance to gravity manipulation and no aizen can not break through a 5-B seal.

Sasuke seals and its over.
 
> has to show the level of absorption

??? I'm 100% sure this isn't how hax is treated, you need to post something to suggest he can resist it. That's like asking for proof a tier 8 can erase Sasuke with EE.

When has Sasuke absorbed jutsu? I remember him absorbing chakra from Naruto after Naruto touched him.
 
Rocker1189 said:
And to applelord, no aizen does not have resistance to gravity manipulation and no aizen can not break through a 5-B seal.

Sasuke seals and its over.
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Six Paths Catastrophic Planetary Devastation is the "5-B Seal" not his normal ones.

And what part of banned matchup do people not get?
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
When has Sasuke shown feats of resisting energy absorption?

"Sasuke has a stronger soul" based off what? Because I don't see a resistance to soul manipulation to even argue it here.
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U do realize what's a NlF right bro?? U don't need any resistance for that.

The fact that verse equalization is in play here makes Sasuke's soul naturally stronger than Aizen's soul crush hax.
 
Oh, so can a 4-B character absorb 1-A energy without a feat? Nice fallacy
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
> has to show the level of absorption
??? I'm 100% sure this isn't how hax is treated, you need to post something to suggest he can resist it. That's like asking for proof a tier 8 can erase Sasuke with EE.

When has Sasuke absorbed jutsu? I remember him absorbing chakra from Naruto after Naruto touched him.
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nope that is how it has always worked, it is why Kaguya has 5-A absorption (for the ETSB.)

EE does not rely on tiers however.

He has the rinnengan. And has mastered the abilities. And I meant counter absorb whateve eengy was going to the dragon not that it matters since izen's is not 5-B in level.
 
Hst master said:
Catastrophic Planetary Devastation is the "5-B Seal" not his normal ones.

And what part of banned matchup do people not get?
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Its 5-B becuase it uses 5-B energy. And I agree which is why I was not participating when I saw this days ago.
 
Its 5-B becuase it uses 5-B energy. And I agree which is why I was not participating when I saw this days ago.

That's not how it works? It's like saying Mafuba is 3-A cuz Goku is 3-A. It's about what you seal not how strong you are. And the only one that's explicitly a seal is the Six Paths Version, the others are for restraint.

EDIT: Regardless this is just gonna end in a bunch of matches that are just slight of Spite Matches in a characters favor.
 
It doesn't work just like how full counter can't reflect attacks of higher tiers. Simple as that. NLFs even have a page here on this wiki
 
Hst master said:
That's not how it works? It's like saying Mafuba is 3-A cuz Goku is 3-A. It's about what you seal not how strong you are. And the only one that's explicitly a seal is the Six Paths Version, the others are for restraint.
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well... yes if Goku uses the mafuba it would be 3-A. And the seal is literally dependent on how strong you are it uses the user's energy, which is why Nagato's was so weak, while in the anime Sasuke could briefly hold momoshiki.
 
Rocker1189 said:
this should be closed anyway, god tier vs god tier is not allowed.
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This actually isnt true. Only Madara/Kaguya vs Aizen/Yhwach is banned.

As for the match up itself. Reiatsu crush GG. Saying higher AP keeps Sasuke from feeling it is completely false as you need to resist soul manipulation on Aizen's level to ignore it, something Sasuke doesn't have.
 
The seals depends on the chakra of the user. It took 3 top tier ninja to destroy the gravity core of the CT when nagato made it.

The core is really what matters. If that can't be broken then you can't escape it
 
AnonymousBlank said:
This actually isnt true. Only Madara/Kaguya vs Aizen/Yhwach is banned.

As for the match up itself. Reiatsu crush GG. Saying higher AP keeps Sasuke from feeling it is completely false as you need to resist soul manipulation on Aizen's level to ignore it, something Sasuke doesn't have.
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Yeah the God tiers, because Madara was the most matched with aizen and yhwach with kaguya.

sasuke can defend himself with susanoo.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
AstralKing7 said:
The point he made still stands.
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It doesn't because 3D hax will work on a 3D character (most of the time).
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Ok, can a 5-B character absorb 4-B energy without a feat? STILL a fallacy, whatever the example is
 
It was agreed in that thread regarding Yhwach/Kaguya/Aizen/Madara matchups that all God Tiers should be included.
 
Hst master said:
Rocker1189 said:
And to applelord, no aizen does not have resistance to gravity manipulation and no aizen can not break through a 5-B seal.

Sasuke seals and its over.
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Six Paths Catastrophic Planetary Devastation is the "5-B Seal" not his normal ones.
And what part of banned matchup do people not get?
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This Sasuke doesn't have the seal or Naruto to peform the Six Paths chibaku tensei. Smh
 
AppleLord said:
This Sasuke doesn't have the seal or Naruto peform the Six Paths chibaku tensei. Smh
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You do knwo that he can do CT on his own right? He literally did it to all the tailed beasts at once.
 
Hado #99 creates five dragons made of energy that absorb the energy of its sorrundings to make itself stronger.

Urahara's Hado 99 was able to absorbed Aura's powers despite her been at the same level as Aizen according to Urahara who is weaker than Aizen. He got captured in that fight.

5-C > 6-A is not a NLF because it has proven to work on higher tier.

1-A Sasuke ovo
 
AppleLord said:
Hado #99 creates five dragons made of energy that absorb the energy of its sorrundings to make itself stronger.
Urahara's Hado 99 was able to absorbed Aura's powers despite her been at the same level as Aizen according to Urahara who is weaker than Aizen. He got captured in that fight.

5-C > 6-A is not a NLF because it has proven to work on higher tier.

1-A Sasuke ovo
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5-B>5-C
 
AstralKing7 said:
Sasuke =atleast 5B
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Aizen is 5-C = 2 tiers below Sasuke

Aura is 6-A = 7 tiers above Urahara who is 7-A.

Hado 99 worked on an opponent x 7 stronger than the user. It will work on Sasuke.
 
Rocker1189 said:
AppleLord said:
This Sasuke doesn't have the seal or Naruto peform the Six Paths chibaku tensei. Smh
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You do knwo that he can do CT on his own right? He literally did it to all the tailed beasts at once.
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Sasuke used Chibaku Tensei in all the tail beast on his own. Not Six Path Chibaku Tensei.
 
Rocker1189 said:
AnonymousBlank said:
His point is that the dragons have feats of working against people far superior to the users tier.
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great but that is urahara's feat not Aizen's
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Is the same technique used by a different person why would the hax be any different when DC isn't applicable to Hado 99?
 
AstralKing7 said:
Yeah that's true but that's still not gonna give it a pass on this site unfortunately
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That's how Harry Potter spells work on this site, why is this isn't any different?
 
AppleLord said:
Is the same technique used by a different person why would the hax be any different when DC isn't applicable to Hado 99?
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yes, yes people scale by their feats shown not by other unless they are stated to be more powerful and if that is the case we coudl use your CT idea and say that it is only 6-A in level.
 
Sasuke still has no resistance to soul manipulation at the end of the day. I don't think he has resistance to the other possible passive effects such as paralysis, being stunned, and fear manipulation. Aizen is also faster with a sword that attacks the soul directly.
 
actually as Tata showed above sasuke is faster and it only attacks the sould if the sould is outside the body.

sasuke susanoo is made out of pure chakra which is made out of spiritual and physical energy, it can defend against reiatsu.
 
Rocker1189 said:
AppleLord said:
Is the same technique used by a different person why would the hax be any different when DC isn't applicable to Hado 99?
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yes, yes people scale by their feats shown not by other unless they are stated to be more powerful and if that is the case we coudl use your CT idea and say that it is only 6-A in level.
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Even if this website doesn't agree with this method, let say that you're right for a moment, since neither of us will agree on this been correct. Not me at least. That's not how spells work.

Sasuke doesn't have resistance to chakra absorption. GG
 
AppleLord said:
Even if this website doesn't agree with this method, let say that you're right for a moment, since neither of us will agree on this been correct. Not me at least. That's not how spells work.

Sasuke doesn't have resistance to chakra absorption. GG
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He doe snot need to, sasuke energy levels is above Aizen's. Aizen cant absorb 5-B levels of energy and gets seal GG.
 
He isn't though, disregarding the flawed current calc used to push Bleach characters to Sub-Rel+ the next best feat is mach 25k

Sasuke has shown the ability to resist those abilities since like forest of death fight with orochimaru
 
HTataHakai said:
Aizen isn't faster
And i'm pretty sure Sasuke himself has all those abilities.
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So Aizen now gets resistance to Genjutsu because he himself can cast them?
 
Rocker1189 said:
AppleLord said:
Even if this website doesn't agree with this method, let say that you're right for a moment, since neither of us will agree on this been correct. Not me at least. That's not how spells work.

Sasuke doesn't have resistance to chakra absorption. GG
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He doe snot need to, sasuke energy levels is above Aizen's. Aizen cant absorb 5-B levels of energy and gets seal GG.
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Aizen's energy is eternal since he is immortal. Check his page. Feats for Sasuke's chakra having absoption resistance? Sasuke's seal is useless.
 
TataHakai said:
He isn't though, disregarding the flawed current calc used to push Bleach characters to Sub-Rel+ the next best feat is mach 25k
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Whining isn't gonna do anything for you, since your word isn't god. So as of now he's at least sub-rel+ via 2-3 feats.

And i'm pretty sure Ant said that Sasuke feat couldn't be used if you wanna go that way because of IMade's response in the blog.
 
AppleLord said:
Aizen's energy is eternal since he is immortal. Check his page. Feats for Sasuke's chakra having absoption resistance? Sasuke's seal is useless.
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Ok make thread for 3-A Aizen then I agree.

He does not need resistance aizen cant absorb 5-B energy how many times foes it have to be stated.

Proof that it is useless or you just going to keep stating that with nothing?
 
At least wait for the revisions for Bleach to be over, there's a good chance Aizen will be Low 5-B to 5-B. Also going from the profiles Aizen is faster via scaling to a higher feat, if you have an issue with that they scale to make a CRT and downgrade it. Saying the feat isn't valid here isn't a valid counter argument as a CRT needs to he don't before dismissing a feat
 
Rocker1189 said:
AppleLord said:
Aizen's energy is eternal since he is immortal. Check his page. Feats for Sasuke's chakra having absoption resistance? Sasuke's seal is useless.
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Ok make thread for 3-A Aizen then I agree.
He does not need resistance aizen cant absorb 5-B energy how many times foes it have to be stated.

Proof that it is useless or you just going to keep stating that with nothing?
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Energy isn't the same as AP. lol A CRT was already done for him. Aizen has nigh-unlimited stamina and spiritual energy will continue to flow eternally = Infinite energy. Look for the thread.

NLF Sasuke's chakra doesn' have resistance to energy absoption. Show me a scan that says his chakra can resist absorption.

I already explained why is useless above. I am not gonna repeated myself. You're suppose to read the entire thread, so people don't post the same argument over and over again.
 
Rin The Dragon Empress said:
At least wait for the revisions for Bleach to be over, there's a good chance Aizen will be Low 5-B to 5-B. Also going from the profiles Aizen is faster via scaling to a higher feat, if you have an issue with that they scale to make a CRT and downgrade it. Saying the feat isn't valid here isn't a valid counter argument as a CRT needs to he don't before dismissing a feat
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hmm when would that be?

not like this would ever be added, since it is not allowed anyway.
 
Not sure, I'm not a Bleach fan myself but I saw several fans talking about a massive CRT when the light novels end. I don't particularly care about this match since I'm not invested in either verse but arguing here seems like a waste of time no matter who wins since the match-up isn't allowed to my knowledge, it's probably best just to close this
 
AppleLord said:
Energy isn't the same as AP. lol A CRT was already done for him. Aizen has nigh-unlimited stamina and spiritual energy will continue to flow eternally = Infinite energy. Look for the thread.

NLF Sasuke's chakra doesn' have resistance to energy absoption. Show me a scan that says his chakra can resist absorption.

I already explained why is useless above. I am not gonna repeated myself. You're suppose to read the entire thread, so people don't post the same argument over and over again.
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He has unlimited stamina, does not mean he can abosrb unlimited energy lmao, this is getting to some ridiculous levels. I guess madara can absorb unlimited energy as an edo tensei.

He does not need it, again aizen has never absorbed 5-B levels of energy that is fact.

Yeah you said it was mountain sized, literally has nothing to do with aizenbeing able to escaape it. And you said Aizen has resistance to gravity manipulation which he does not.
 
TataHakai said:
AppleLord said:
HTataHakai said:
Aizen isn't faster
And i'm pretty sure Sasuke himself has all those abilities.
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So Aizen now gets resistance to Genjutsu because he himself can cast them?
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That's not what i said at all
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You wrote that Sasuke himself has all those abilities. So I understood it as "he has resistance to all those abilities" because you didn't specify.
 
Rin The Dragon Empress said:
Not sure, I'm not a Bleach fan myself but I saw several fans talking about a massive CRT when the light novels end. I don't particularly care about this match since I'm not invested in either verse but arguing here seems like a waste of time no matter who wins since the match-up isn't allowed to my knowledge, it's probably best just to close this
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welp, agreed there.
 
AppleLord said:
You wrote that Sasuke himself has all those abilities. So I understood it as "he has resistance to all those abilities" because you didn't specify.
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My bad if it came off like that

Sasuke has shown resistances to those, for example in the orochimaru fight in the forest of death he and Sakura were frozen and paralysed by Orochimaru's fear aura but Sasuke was able to move despite that, albeit very slightly

And that was only Kid Sasuke
 
Rocker1189 said:
He has unlimited stamina, does not mean he can abosrb unlimited energy lmao, this is getting to some ridiculous levels. I guess madara can absorb unlimited energy as an edo tensei.

He does not need it, again aizen has never absorbed 5-B levels of energy that is fact.

Yeah you said it was mountain sized, literally has nothing to do with aizenbeing able to escaape it. And you said Aizen has resistance to gravity manipulation which he does not.
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Not what I said. Also Aizen doesn't absorb anything. The five energy dragons from spell 99 do. Madara already possess infinite energy, I don't see why not.

Aizen isn't absorbing anything. Spell 99 is doing it on its own as sentient creatures, and have already done so, x 7 times their users tier.

One single slash from Aizen sword can cut a third of that rock. And Aizen did tanked his own gravity spell.
 
TataHakai said:
AppleLord said:
You wrote that Sasuke himself has all those abilities. So I understood it as "he has resistance to all those abilities" because you didn't specify.
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My bad if it came off like that
Sasuke has shown resistances to those, for example in the orochimaru fight in the forest of death he and Sakura were frozen and paralysed by Orochimaru's fear aura but Sasuke was able to move despite that, albeit very slightly

And that was only Kid Sasuke
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Thanks for explain, and yes he did.
 
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