Ability Page - Very Important Kamen Rider verse proposal.

[Nicetoderp]

As stated by the title, this may be a simple but important proposal made by me.

Add Kamen Rider verse among the examples given on Transformation page.

 

[WanderingGecko]

Yeah this seems pretty reasonable as one of the things that comes into mind when thinking about “transformation” is the Riders.

Agreed.

 

[Lonkitt]

This could be controversial to add

In all seriousness though, this is a must add for every profile. I don’t think I’ve seen a single one without it, but regardless, it’s vital

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Absolutely agree

 

[Firestorm808]

Agreed. It's a core concept of the franchise.

"Henshin!"

 

[Maskofthedragon]

In all seriousness the examples used for the ability pages have always been pretty under baked

 

[Nicetoderp]

Tbh, character like Sailor Moon verse and many magical girls and Ultraman should count too.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Tbh, character like Sailor Moon verse and many magical girls and Ultraman should count too.

Yeah, i feel like those and Kamen Riders should be the prime example instead the current ones we have in transformation page
Maybe we can advocate to change the Hulk transformation gif to either the Rider or Ultra or Magical Girl transformation gif

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Definitely agree!
This is the core of our franchise.

 

[Divini]

Tbh, character like Sailor Moon verse and many magical girls and Ultraman should count too.

power rangers and super sentai people too

 

[IxaSaga2]

heavy agree

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Time to asking the staffs an evaluation

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I also have a gifs for exchanging our current transformation gif if it get accepted:

 

[MagiSinbad]

Agree

 

[Nicetoderp]

Bump

 

[Shadyboi0]

unrelated but unmei no senshi slaps

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

For the staffs that wanted to look out to the summary, it's simple:

• Add the Kamen Rider verse as the prime example on the transformation page
• And with that said, the other Tokusatsu franchise like Ultraman and Super Sentai/Power Ranger, alongside the Magical Girl franchise like Sailor Moon and Madoka Magica to the examples list of the transformation page
• Change the image of Hulk transforming into either Ichigo henshin or Hayata transform into Ultraman:

I also have a gifs for exchanging our current transformation gif if it get accepted:

The reason why i feel the transformation page need to be a lil bit overhaul is because Kamen Rider is the biggest franchise that popularising the transformation sequence so with that big deal i think it best to change it

 

[Lonkitt]

For the staffs that wanted to look out to the summary, it's simple:

• Add the Kamen Rider verse as the prime example on the transformation page
• And with that said, the other Tokusatsu franchise like Ultraman and Super Sentai/Power Ranger, alongside the Magical Girl franchise like Sailor Moon and Madoka Magica to the examples list of the transformation page

-Kamen Rider Ichigo
-Ultraman Zero
-Takeru Shiba
-Jason Lee Scott
-Sailor Moon
-Madoka Kaname

Those are the examples I feel would work best. Although for Kamen Rider we could always just write “Several characters from Kamen Rider”

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yeah but as we know, Ichigo is the most iconic, so it should be like this: "Kamen Rider Ichigo and The Rest of Characters from Kamen Rider Series"

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

As for Power Ranger, Tommy as the example instead Jason will be better

 

[Lonkitt]

Tommy is more iconic, so that makes sense

 

[IxaSaga2]

• Captain Marvelous for SS would be perfect but he doesn't have a profile yet so Shiba could do just fine.
• I agree Tommy should be the clear representative for PR.
• KR is obviously Ichigo.
• Ultraman can be either the og Ultraman or Ultraman Zero. Ultraman is the more iconic one but Zero is basically the main character of the franchise for well over a decade.
• Sailor Moon is a given for magical girls.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

This is pretty clear-cut, and I agree with the proposal and suggestions.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

• Captain Marvelous for SS would be perfect but he doesn't have a profile yet so Shiba could do just fine.

This is why need to add more of Sentai profiles, heck we don't have the verse page yet lel

• Ultraman can be either the og Ultraman or Ultraman Zero. Ultraman is the more iconic one but Zero is basically the main character of the franchise for well over a decade.

Yeah this is the only example that i can't decide, maybe just listed them both would be good

• Sailor Moon is a given for magical girls.

And Madoka Magica as well

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Agreed, despite my mini hate boner for the series because of how bullshit OP it is lel.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Agreed, despite my mini hate boner for the series because of how bullshit OP it is lel.

Don't worry, it grows in power every weekend

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Don't worry, it grows in power every weekend

 

[Nicetoderp]

Don't worry, it grows in power every weekend

The current state of Oma until 2068.

Man literally get more abilities with more entries in the series.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

What the hell is a Kamen Rider?

 

[Firestorm808]

What the hell is a Kamen Rider?

Kamen Rider at home:

 

[Nicetoderp]

Bump

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I have asked @Antvasima to come here but so far he's not arrived yet

 

[Shadyboi0]

What the hell is a Kamen Rider?

Karate Bugmen essentially

 

[MagiSinbad]

Stay tuned for every weekend to see how OP our Kamen Rider just got in the latest episodes.
Recent episodes just gave the protag this neat upgrade.

Spoiler: literally a gundam form

 

[IxaSaga2]

In Geats, first episode and we already have a dude that has a weapon that can dissolve anything it touches. If that's not enough, it also turns people into zombies.

And then we find out Geats is a 2000+ year old that have been fighting in battle royales for his whole life.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

In Geats, first episode and we already have a dude that has a weapon that can dissolve anything it touches. If that's not enough, it also turns people into zombies.

And then we find out Geats is a 2000+ year old that have been fighting in battle royales for his whole life.

What the f***

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Anyway, someone should contacting @Antvasima to come here

 

[Jamesthetaker]

In Geats, first episode and we already have a dude that has a weapon that can dissolve anything it touches. If that's not enough, it also turns people into zombies.

And then we find out Geats is a 2000+ year old that have been fighting in battle royales for his whole life.

In the latest episode, it turned out that Geats was just a reality show.

 

[Lonkitt]

What the hell is a Kamen Rider?

Funny bugmen transforming and punching bad guys

 

[Lonkitt]

Agreed, despite my mini hate boner for the series because of how bullshit OP it is lel.

You’d like Hibiki, nobody is OP in that at all

 

[ImmortalDread]

I watched the series, I don't remember one character who did not transform. Also, by any chance, don't they have a physiology page?

 

[Lonkitt]

All Kamen Riders have pretty different power sources, so as of right now, they don’t have a physiology page

 

[ImmortalDread]

Then, if there are 8 abilities they share, we can create a physiology page for them. Anyway, put me on agreement.

 

[WanderingGecko]

So why are we getting sidetracked again? This should be a simple enough revision, I’m gonna call in a staff member.

 

[Antvasima]

I added this change as it is very uncontroversial.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Transformation?type=revision&diff=7829853&oldid=7684398

I think that we can close this thread now.

 

[Lonkitt]

I actually think this thread wanted to edit a bit more than simply putting in Kamen Rider as an example

 

[Antvasima]

What more do you want me to do exactly?

 

[ImmortalDread]

I actually think this thread wanted to edit a bit more than simply putting in Kamen Rider as an example

Huh?

 

[Lonkitt]

What more do you want me to do exactly?

It was discussed that one of the gifs above might be a better example for this ability than the Hulk gif

 

[Antvasima]

Which ones?

 

[Lonkitt]

Which ones?

One of these

 

[Antvasima]

The Hulk is more internationally iconic/well-known as far as I am aware. My apologies.

And I also do not think that your listed gifs look very good.

 

[Antvasima]

A question though: Are you all absolutely certain that the Kamen Riders actually transform their physical bodies, and do not simply have a costume on "spell" or somesuch?

 

[Lonkitt]

….You’re being ironic, right?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know almost anything about Kamen Rider, so I do not know if it is just a costume on-costume off "transformation", no.

 

[Lonkitt]

They are legitimate transformations, yes

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then. I just wanted to make certain.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

The Hulk is more internationally iconic/well-known as far as I am aware. My apologies.

While it's true, The Kamen Rider series is well known for the transformation, like Hulk isn't known for the transformation
So i'm still advocating the change on the gif

And I also do not think that your listed gifs look very good.

I feel the gif that posted was good enough

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I also feel my proposal is way better than what Nice has said in the OP:

For the staffs that wanted to look out to the summary, it's simple:

• Add the Kamen Rider verse as the prime example on the transformation page
• And with that said, the other Tokusatsu franchise like Ultraman and Super Sentai/Power Ranger, alongside the Magical Girl franchise like Sailor Moon and Madoka Magica to the examples list of the transformation page

So it should like this:

-Kamen Rider Ichigo and the rest of Characters from the Series (Kamen Rider)
-Ultraman and Ultraman Zero (The Ultra Series)
-Takeru Shiba (Super Sentai)
-Tommy Oliver (Power Ranger)
-Several Characters from Transformers (Transformers)
-Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon)
-Madoka Kaname (Puella Magi Verse)

We can leave the gif change for now since it need to be discussed but beside that, this is the current examples that being agreed here

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oh right, forgot to mention this: Transformers should be added the the prime example as well
EDIT: Edited my examples above

 

[ImmortalDread]

I mean, Ant already added the whole verse page there, I don't see any notability

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I mean, Ant already added the whole verse page there, I don't see any notability

He may not noticed my proposal earlier, but we'll see

 

[ImmortalDread]

He may not noticed my proposal earlier, but we'll see

It is because it is not on OP

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

It is because it is not on OP

Funny you said that because i realize i can just make a new thread for the examples addition + changing the gif lel

Gonna do it later

 

[ImmortalDread]

Funny you said that because i realize i can just make a new thread for the examples addition + changing the gif lel

Gonna do it later

I hope the GIF is 16k

 

[Antvasima]

While it's true, The Kamen Rider series is well known for the transformation, like Hulk isn't known for the transformation
So i'm still advocating the change on the gif

The Hulk also has a more traditional one-trick pony transformation.

I feel the gif that posted was good enough

I disagree. My apologies.

I also feel my proposal is way better than what Nice has said in the OP:

So it should like this:

We can leave the gif change for now since it need to be discussed but beside that, this is the current examples that being agreed here

Oh right, forgot to mention this: Transformers should be added the the prime example as well
EDIT: Edited my examples above

I don't mind adding them. Wait a bit please.

 

[Firestorm808]

@Antvasima I can handle the page if you like.

 

[Antvasima]

I made a sufficient number of additions, but skipped the examples that seemed too redundant (due to being very similar to other examples), obscure, or that did not involve any significant visible physical changes (Sailor Moon).

Transformation

Transformation is the ability to transform parts of one body or slightly modify their forms through external power-ups, gradual mutations over a period of time, or through limited or uncontrollable change in form. It also includes characters with a very limited number of set transformations. For...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

The Hulk also has a more traditional one-trick pony transformation.

More traditional =/= iconic thing, again Hulk isn't known for the transformation

I disagree. My apologies.

Maybe if i can find a more good quality version then it will be good

 

[Antvasima]

The Hulk's transformation illustrates the entire point of what the VSBW power transformation is intended to mean much better than Kamen Rider does, as most observers would only notice a sudden costume change for the latter. My apologies, but I will not budge regarding this point.

Is there anything else left to do here, or is it fine if I lock this thread now?

 

[ImmortalDread]

More traditional =/= iconic thing, again Hulk isn't known for the transformation

Hulk is actually very well-known for transformation. In fact, it is the most acknowledged aspect in his character's development.

 

[IxaSaga2]

I think it can be closed.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Yap, the changes have been applied!

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will close this thread then.