A question about some Digimon being Universal Tier

[Lunacorva]

While I have no doubt that a Digimon would be Universal Tier within the Digital World, it's also been shown that the Digital World is far more malleable than the "Real" World and many of the Universal tier Digimon have an innate connection to the Digital World itself.

So my question is, are we sure they'd be as strong outside the Digital World? For instance, if Omnimon X fought SSB Goku in the Digital World both would be Universal Tier easily, but what if they both fought on say Planet Namek? A place far less malleable than the Digital World which Omnimon DOESN'T have the same innate connection to.


TL;DR Should the Universal Tier abilities be counted as a powerful hax that only works when in the Digital World itself?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Lunacorva

The Digital World is not any more malleable than the Human World. Digimon have fought outside of the Digital World in literally every series. In addition, Digimon as powerful as Megidramon can begin to dissolve the boundary between universes and cause them to collapse over time simply by existing.

Then there's the fact that the eldest Digimon consider it laughable at the thought of humans creating the Digital World, saying that the latter heavily predates the former.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I think we had this discussion before and the final answer was most likely not. In Digimon Tamers, Gallantmon and co were depicted at the same level of strength during the final battle with the D-REAPER which took place in the real world. The only time I recall them being weakened was by Hypnos Technology (If I recall, my memory is fuzzy) and the fact that their partners weren't Digital.

In a more recent example, in Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, the vast majority of the end game takes place in the real world, with you defeating Royal Knights in the real world. However, you fight Craniummon in the digital world with the same level of difficulty, implying they're on the same level of strength between the two worlds.

 

[Lunacorva]

@Lunacorva
The Digital World is not any more malleable than the Human World. Digimon have fought outside of the Digital World in literally every series. In addition, Digimon as powerful as Megidramon can begin to dissolve the boundary between universes and cause them to collapse over time simply by existing.

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But it's also been shown that the Digital World responds to things like "The hopes and dreams of children" something our world would be unaffected by.


As for the Megidramon (And by extension GallantmonCM example), it says they break down the boundaries between the two worlds, causing the worlds to fall apart. Now, I could cause a building to fall apart by chopping down the support beam. That doesn't mean I have building level attack potency though.

 

[Lunacorva]

I think we had this discussion before and the final answer was most likely not. In Digimon Tamers, Gallantmon and co were depicted at the same level of strength during the final battle with the D-REAPER which took place in the real world. The only time I recall them being weakened was by Hypnos Technology (If I recall, my memory is fuzzy) and the fact that their partners weren't Digital.
In a more recent example, in Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, the vast majority of the end game takes place in the real world, with you defeating Royal Knights in the real world. However, you fight Craniummon in the digital world with the same level of difficulty, implying they're on the same level of strength between the two worlds.

One problem is that in both examples, all characters are Digital Beings.

Let's say for example my theory is correct. Digimon are weaker outside the Digital World, so let's say that in the Real World, Craniumon and you are both Large Planet Level as an example.

When you enter the Digital World, you BOTH upgrade to Universal.

However, despite there being an upgrade, the fight would still be equally difficult, since you BOTH recieve the same upgrade.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Lunacorva

What does that have to do with tiering? The Digital World is established to have its own space-time continuums.

There's no indication that Digimon are drastically weaker in the real world than the Digital World. Unless you can bring up one scenario which is actually the case (which I highly doubt since I've watched literally every season of Digimon) then we'll talk. Otherwise this is pointless speculation and fan theory.

No. Not every human is automatically universal when they enter the Digital World. You would know this if you watched literally any of the TV Shows.

As for Megidramon's feat, there's a difference between pulling out the supports of a building and threatening to space time to fold in and destroy itself for two universes.