A little rant about Undertale Wank

[BakeRoof]

Why do some or alot of people on this site love to think that Sans can compete with touhou and dragon ball characters.

Why is it all about feats can we just use scaling and statements, but than again this is Vs battles Wiki I'm dealing with.

Let me Guess Toriel can solo dbz and touhou she scales to frisk, I mean that's Vs battle wiki logic. and The Verse besides (Chara, Pacifist Frisk, Asriel, omega flowey, the only ones in the verse that have feats and scaling.) Everybody else especially Sans is featless.

Just because sans has Kr that doesn't mean he can beat people way above him!

And also there are hax in ficiton used to an extent. But if you wanna equalize them that's fine, but use better arguments.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Have you heard the term hax?

Sans can fight Dragon Ball characters (not sure about Xenoverse) in speed equal only due to his soul hax which ignores durability which also helps him fight characters tier above him. Dragon Ball are more on physical fighter with almost no hax. As for Touhou, I'm sure Sans gets stomped because they have hax like Conceptual Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Time Stop ,etc.


Lower AP and Higher AP aren't always the deciding factor if you are dealing with insanely haxed boys like Giorno who has low AP but his hax (passive willpower manipulation and causality manipulation) can incap higher tier people with the exception of those who resist his hax or a higher dimensional character.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Also another example would be Light Yagami (who has low AP) can kill Goku with his death hax via Death note. That is of course if Goku just stand there and do nothing but you get the point because of things like hax

 

[The_Wright_Way]

You don't agree with us on who would win in a fight between fictional characters. Oh, the humanity! Seriously, dude, it's a hobby. Let people do it how they will. There are much better things that you can be doing with your time.

Also, Sans has a history of getting his ass kicked by DB characters abd virtually anyone from Touhou stomps him here. If you're going to complain, at least complain about stuff that's true.

 

[Spinoirr]

I mean he killed frisk/player multiple times despite them being stronger then sans

All thanks to his karma (if the foe has no soul or resists soul haxs sans gets one shot, or any immortality that helps them beat sans)

Also what they said above

 

[BakeRoof]

I mean he killed frisk/player multiple times despite them being stronger then sans
All thanks to his karma (if the foe has no soul or resists soul haxs sans gets one shot, or any immortality that helps them beat sans)

Also what they said above

Genocide frisk and pacifist frisk are two different frisks they don't have the same feats

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Only, they do. They're the sane character, they're just being told by the Anomaly to do different things. Their powerset doesn't actually change.

 

[BakeRoof]

Have you heard the term hax?
Sans can fight Dragon Ball characters (not sure about Xenoverse) in speed equal only due to his soul hax which ignores durability which also helps him fight characters tier above him. Dragon Ball are more on physical fighter with almost no hax. As for Touhou, I'm sure Sans gets stomped because they have hax like Conceptual Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Time Stop ,etc.


Lower AP and Higher AP aren't always the deciding factor if you are dealing with insanely haxed boys like Giorno who has low AP but his hax (passive willpower manipulation and causality manipulation) can incap higher tier people with the exception of those who resist his hax or a higher dimensional character.

Dragon ball also have hax as well since you ignored it but for your logic It applies every ficiton except dragon ball and just acceot it sans is fodder.

 

[BakeRoof]

You don't agree with us on who would win in a fight between fictional characters. Oh, the humanity! Seriously, dude, it's a hobby. Let people do it how they will. There are much better things that you can be doing with your time.
Also, Sans has a history of getting his ass kicked by DB characters abd virtually anyone from Touhou stomps him here. If you're going to complain, at least complain about stuff that's true.

All I'm saying is that when your a lower tier and have these hax doesn't mean they can beat someone that's universal, multiversal, hyperversal, nigh omnipotent, Omnipotent, and so on.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Buddy, Sans has twelve losses on his profile. We know damn well he's fodder, it's just his hax lets him beat people way above him.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

I don't care about Sans and I'm just saying that he can fight Dragon Ball character in speed equal due to his soul hax. His soul hax can be resisted to those who have feat resisting it.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

All I'm saying is that when your a lower tier and have these hax doesn't mean they can beat someone that's universal, multiversal, hyperversal, nigh omnipotent, Omnipotent, and so on.

Yeah, we know. We've never claimed Sans can beat those characters. Tier 2 and up, Sans is ******. So are 90% of characters tier 3 and below. You're saying we're making claims that no one on this site ever has.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Dragon's useful hax is their existence erasure and that's it which is why I said "almost" no hax.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

I also forgot to mention that Sans can't fight those who have higher dimensions

 

[BakeRoof]

Buddy, Sans has twelve losses on his profile. We know damn well he's fodder, it's just his hax lets him beat people way above him.

If you wanna equalize them I agree. But if unequalized how is that gonna effect them now?

 

[The_Impress]

Technically no, ever watch Doctor Strange? The entire climax of the movie was Strange beating an multiversal via timehax.

Same goes for mindhaxxers actually, many Marvel telepaths can crush characters a billion times stronger than them relying on mind hax.

Fiction has shown that you can spit in the eye of the dragon many times, metaphorically speaking.

 

[BakeRoof]

I don't care about Sans and I'm just saying that he can fight Dragon Ball character in speed equal due to his soul hax. His soul hax can be resisted to those who have feat resisting it.

That's because ya'll equalize him, but that's ok. But if you wanna equalize him don't say his speed is infinite.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Equalize them how? Most of Sans wins would blitz him if speed wasn't Equalized. Tiering equaluzation, however, is irrelevant. His competition is neither higher dimensional nor do they resist soul hax, meaning Sans wins in a speed equal scenario.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

That's because ya'll equalize him, but that's ok. But if you wanna equalize him don't say his speed is infinite.

No one here has ever said that.

 

[BakeRoof]

Technically no, ever watch Doctor Strange? The entire climax of the movie was Strange beating an multiversal via timehax.
Same goes for mindhaxxers actually, many Marvel telepaths can crush characters a billion times stronger than them relying on mind hax.

Fiction has shown that you can spit in the eye of the dragon many times.

That's because it's been stated and shown in the comics and Don't compare undertale to Marvel and DC comics who are way above undertale in every aspect.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Wtf no one said his speed is infinite, what are you talking about? Besides Goku isn't infinite either.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Buddy, Sans has twelve losses on his profile. We know damn well he's fodder, it's just his hax lets him beat people way above him.

If you wanna equalize them I agree. But if unequalized how is that gonna effect them now?

Then what's the point from all your rambling? All of Sans matches are speed equal that's why folks said they can compete with higher tier characters except higher dimensional characters. In Vs Battle, speed equal is almost necessary because we don't add matches that are stomps and blitzed so folks have been used to speed equal methods and forgot about unequal speed when they said they can compete with DB and Touhou

 

[BakeRoof]

I also forgot to mention that Sans can't fight those who have higher dimensions

I agree, but you guys need to stop wanking so much.

 

[The_Impress]

That's because it's been stated and shown in the comics and Don't compare undertale to Marvel and DC comics who are way above undertale in every aspect.

That's like, your opinion man... also MCU version is now stronger than Undertale? Seriously?

Also, I linked like 50 non-comics examples there in the little TV Tropes link, so

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I agree, but you guys need to stop wanking so much.

We don't. Half your claims about what we do aren't even true.

 

[BakeRoof]

All I'm saying is that when your a lower tier and have these hax doesn't mean they can beat someone that's universal, multiversal, hyperversal, nigh omnipotent, Omnipotent, and so on.

Yeah, we know. We've never claimed Sans can beat those characters. Tier 2 and up, Sans is ******. So are 90% of characters tier 3 and below. You're saying we're making claims that no one on this site ever has.
Can you prove that to me? I've been on this site very long and people wanna compare Monika, Beerus and Yukari to sans which is ludicrous in my opinion.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Wanking? When he has more losses then victories???

 

[The_Wright_Way]

All I'm saying is that when your a lower tier and have these hax doesn't mean they can beat someone that's universal, multiversal, hyperversal, nigh omnipotent, Omnipotent, and so on. Yeah, we know. We've never claimed Sans can beat those characters. Tier 2 and up, Sans is ******. So are 90% of characters tier 3 and below. You're saying we're making claims that no one on this site ever has.
Can you prove that to me? I've been on this site very long and people wanna compare Monika, Beerus and Yukari to sans which is ludicrous in my opinion.

You joined earlier this month. No one has ever made those claims here, nor have they ever been taken seriously. Aside from Beerus, because he wasn't low 2-C yet and he doesn't resist soul hax.

 

[BakeRoof]

Wtf no one said his speed is infinite, what are you talking about? Besides Goku isn't infinite either.

I never said dbs goku speed was infinite, but still faster than sans.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I fail to see how you can think Sans is wanked when he lost to Homer Simpson.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Can you prove that to me? I've been on this site very long and people wanna compare Monika, Beerus and Yukari to sans which is ludicrous in my opinion.

And you just made an account today. Did you have an account before?

 

[The_Impress]

Anyhow, this thread is turning kinda unreadable... should I close this? You can inquire further on the matter on my message wall if you were interested

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Yeah, probably.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Yeah

 

[BakeRoof]

Yeah close it I don't want to make it even worse.

 

[BakeRoof]

Anyhow, this thread is turning kinda unreadable... should I close this? You can inquire further on the matter on my message wall if you were interested

I can do that.

 

[Spinoirr]

Dr strange MCU would beat sans

All he needs us one hit and can just use the time stone to make him tired and this is speed = fight

Speed unequal would just be a stomp

Hell all of sans' fights are stomps without placing the characters at a = level of speed