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A boi with a big chicken hand that's also the hand of God hovering over his shoulder fights a girl in T H I C C armor that makes you think she's a man

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For the most part, his fight with Touma being an exception as he freaked out upon getting negated by IB. Fiamma does teleport to the other side of the planet once the fight starts. But even assuming he doesn't....

Samus, unfortunately. Does not have the AoE or fire enough bullets to strike him first, his Holy Roght automatically tracks and teleports directly next to the opponent to strike them.

So from here, we decide, can the HR kill Samus quick enough

Yes? Fiamma. No? Samus

That's my contribution thus far

Also quit the stupid title :p
 
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Samus fires something something Phazon

it probably can't hit Fiamma, but it mind and soul fucks him just by being around it
 

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She likely won't get the chance to use it before he either uses HR or teleports to the other side of the planet

Shooting a gun and bullet travel<<Thinking or swinging
 
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Samus has more than enough range to still hit him after he just teleports away

HR is another thing, but i don't think he really starts with it in-character
 

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Actually she doesn't, her Precog doesn't cover such a distance and his presence conceal makes even ehnhamced senses useless
 
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Melee Range, can extend to a meter or two with the Lightning Counter. Stellar with standard weaponry (Was able to freeze the surface of an entire star using the Ice Beam), Planetary with Power Bombs (Power Bombs can destroy planets), her Power Suit can detect environmental changes ranging from Planetary range to Interstellar range, up to Cross-dimensional (Could detect changes in Dark Aether from Aether, or even other planets in Metroid Prime 3)

this is Samus' range for this key afaik

she can sure as hell still hit him and her suit should still be able to track him
 

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Schnee One said:
her Precog doesn't cover such a distance and his presence conceal makes even ehnhamced senses useless
Her actual range means nothing if she can't see him

Has she actually fought someone who can presence conceal?
 

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?

Because the entire point behind teleporting away is to hide your presence and be safe. He's done it before and I doubt he wouldn't do it again if he goes so far as to do that
 
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so he doesn't have any magic presense concealing stuff?

he just teleports away to hide?

if so, Samus has no trouble finding him again
 
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is he teleporting away and using something else to become stealthy or is he just teleporting away to hide?

the difference is pretty big here
 
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ok then

there wasn't any indication that you were distinguishing between them but i'm probably just dumb and didn't see them
 
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that's fine

i don't think she can detect him depending on how good his concealment is, although again, does he just instantly teleport away in-character?
 

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Not always no

But other times he uses the HR which, I don't think she can dodge as the attack appears centimeters away from your body instantly
 
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i don't think she can dodge it, but the Lightning Armor may be able to absorb it as Samus is well above baseline 5-B iirc
 

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She's extremely high above Baseline 5B yes

Though, this isn't on his profile so take it with a grain of salt. But I believe it adapts to the opponents strength
 
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yeah, whether HR is just a "i win" button or only really worked because Fiamma had way higher AP than most other people in To Aru is one hell of a discussion
 

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Well, it also can destroy something with no force, IE, not using AP to win. And, to back up it not just being the NLF hand at work, it has worked on stronger opponents.
 

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Can Samus' stuff absorb a lack of something, though?
 

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Dang profiles listing things below the tier of the rating their give
 
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ok so

this basically goes one of 2 ways

>Samus fires Phazon something at Fiamma, which gets noped by HR (he most likely gets mind and soul fucked anyways) and he attacks Samus with HR, which gets absorbed

or

>Samus fires Phazon something at Fiamma, which gets noped by HR (he most likely gets mind and soul fucked anyways) and teleports away and Samus likely can't find him
 
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Fiamma is nigh immune to soulhax and has resistance to mindhax. He can read 103k grimoires that would kill any other persons mind just by looking at a page, and had his soul removed from his body and sealed away. He didnt care though.

He can block and tele whatever samus can throw. HR will autolock and attack threats aswell without fiamma doing anything

Voting for fiamma
 
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Fiamma pretty much has contingencies and feats to lolnope what she can do just as much as how HR can do so with her

dont blame her tho,the grimoires are basically an archive of batman's backup plans lmao
 
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Many of the abilities on Samus' profile get dealt with by either the automatic HR defense or mircales. There are several scenarios that Samus can begin with ( even if we go with her initiating with her plantery abilities) but she would still not land due to the automatic function of HR. All in all, I'm going with Fiamma here because he only needs to land one or two in-character attacks and that would be enough to erase Samus whereas the best Scenarios for her (starting with time slow for example) are the least likely to happen and would eventually get dealt with by other means such as teleportation/sanctuary. Also some her abilities are charge moves based on games, therefore the auto target can intervene with the process mid attack if it deems the source as a threat. As as seen in the satellite example, the arm didn't only fend off the attack but it also destroyed its source (this can happen at any range).

Even his absorption is more likely to work than hers tbh, since he at least has feats of taking in human parts while Samus' is more energy based (even if it wasn't, HR isn't getting absorbed since there's virutally nothing to store in).

Going with Fiamma.
 
Fiamma easily wins with HR and auto target as it is hax. Fiamma can also teleport anywhere insantly and HR's attacks are insant so you can't dodge it. Samus' soul hax also won't work as Fiamma has resistance. Though I doubt Samus can even hit him because of HR.

I think this is a stomp.
 
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Phazon mind and soul fuck is planetary for amounts well below what Samus uses

Fiamma dies a painful death before he can do anything
 
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Yomi Schwarz said:
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refer to post of @TIHYDDWBE
"Fiamma is nigh immune to soulhax and has resistance to mindhax."

ok

how does this help?

he's not immune to soul hax unless he doesn't have a soul, and 103,000 Grimoires are nowhere near the level of soul and mind fuck that Samus is working with
 
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The thing is that soulhax wouldnt work since HR is actually fully capable of dispersing such attacks and its not solely only because of fiamma having soul resistance.

"A restraining spell created a thirteen-sided object around Fiamma, not only restraining Fiamma's actions physically but also separating his flesh from his soul. He was trapped in a "woundless bind"; nothing more than a hollow existence. [...] "Fiamma could hear nothing, but the Pope's mouth was still moving. "From this moment forth, you shall be bound for forty years. Sample the 'loneliness created by oneself' that Judas experienced, and correct that immature soul of yours." [...] Inside the thirteen-sided object, standing in stupor, Fiamma's lips give a slight twitch. The sign of final resistance he was making with all his strength. [...] "Give up. I am the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church. The power I wield now is the Holy power of two billion followers passed down through two thousand years of history. It is not something that can be destroyed by just one person." In addition to this, the Basilica di San Pietro was the largest and highest stronghold of the old power. Combined with the power of the Vatican, these things could be said to be powerful spiritual items that could increase the Pope's strength. [...] At that moment Fiamma's voice was heard, "Hmph." The Pope expression twisted into one of shock. This was not something someone who had been bound by such a spell should be capable of. Fiamma's voice adopted a light tone, "How pitiful... just two billion followers? Only two thousand years of history?" The world disappeared. [...] The Pope barely managed to see the thing which appeared on Fiamma's right shoulder, alongside a bright light from his eyes, because the very next moment his vision was engulfed by empty whiteness and a violent storm destroyed his surroundings. [...] There was a strange thing above his right shoulder. Different from the two arms he possessed as a human, like a wing that hadn't developed properly, it was a huge, malformed hand with four fingers on it, composed of blocks of distorted light. It was told in Greek legend Athena had hacked her way out of the forehead of the King of the Gods, Zeus, and climbed out of the wound. The scene in front of the Pope was similar to that legend: Both were entirely unbelievable."


(Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 16, pg 193-195)

The Holy Right's defense self activates and disperses Pope Matthai Reeses spell 'Symbols of the Son of God and the Twelve Apostles' backed by 2,000,000,000 followers and the spiritual items of The Vatican meant to bind the physical body and remove the soul

He dosent need to lose his soul to lolnope the mindhax since HR can swat things of that variety away no diff
 
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She'd be dead before that ever happens.


"He merely swung his right arm lightly. "I do not need destructive force." [...] "If I touch my enemy, it's over, so I don't need to put any effort into destroying them." [...] "I do not need speed." A cold voice cut her off. Forcefully. Exceedingly overwhelming. "If I swing, I hit my enemy, so I don't need to put any effort into hitting them." Kamijou did not know what happened." (Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 20, pg 91-92) "His arm was supposed to be almighty. If he swung it, it would hit, so he had no need for speed. If he hit, the target would be destroyed, so he had no need for destructive power." (Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 22, pg 113)

HR's Passive Touch>>>Phazon's passive shenanigans
 
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does Fiamma instantly just go "lol fuck off m9" in-character tho?

if so, he wins albiet with difficulty due to Lightning Shield and Samus fighting back

if not, Samus wins via Fiamma getting mind and soul fucked
 
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>does Fiamma instantly just go "lol fuck off m9" in-character tho?

HR is likely the one to do that than fiamma actually.HR would swat what it deems a threat unless fiamma wills it not to.that's how the automatic defense works.
 
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that doesn't answer the question

does HR or Fiamma or whatver just instantly attack Samus while Fiamma is in-character?
 
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what i'm asking is "does Fiamma not want HR to instantly splatter his opponent in-character?"

again

if no, he wins albiet with difficulty due to Lightning Shield and Samus fighting back

if so, Samus wins via Fiamma getting mind and soul fucked
 
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well HR is set to auto fire unless fiamma does so,so its in character for the HR to swat automatically if thats what your asking and fiamma will only ever stop that if he has some other agenda in mind
 

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Well Fiamma's Fiammaing

..... Just to be clear Samus still has a way to actually not die right
 

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>In order for a character to win another character has to be stupid

ugghhhhhh
 
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