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8-B Tournament Round 1 Match 4: Ashen One vs Gaara (Naruto)

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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
What? It's the same sword the Soul of Cinder uses in the Boss Fight at the end of the game. Don't know how much more clear this can get. It literally pulls it out of the Bonfire to use as a weapon and it magically reappears back in the bonfire when it dies.
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Didn't know much about dark souls verse so n knew that... ok the sword can't be destroyed but what about the rest of the bonfire? destroying the surrounding wood wouldn't "destroy" the bonfire?
 
JustANormalLemon said:
Didn't know much about dark souls verse so n knew that... ok the sword can't be destroyed but what about the rest of the bonfire? destroying the surrounding wood wouldn't "destroy" the bonfire?
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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
The Kiln of the First Flame basically got nuked when the Chosen Undead revitalized it back in Dark Souls 1, so yeah.
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No, otherwise that Bonfire wouldn't exist anymore.
 
EliminatorVenom said:
Isn't the Ashen One's resurrection limited to the bonfire managing to spawn him back?

I mean, if that's the issue, I don't see the problem of making the bonfire reside in another dimension or something.


I... Wouldn't call Dark Souls' bonfires "campfires with swords". Abnormal capabilities notwithstanding, which are repeatedly acknowledged by everyone, bonfires exist and stay functional in areas that suffer immense devastation and destruction. The Kiln of the First Flame is the first example that comes to mind.
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Ok, get it, the bonfires are not Just campfires with a sword, they are resistente as Fu*k
 
JustANormalLemon said:
Didn't know much about dark souls verse so n knew that... ok the sword can't be destroyed but what about the rest of the bonfire? destroying the surrounding wood wouldn't "destroy" the bonfire?
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The entire bonfire is one thing. Sword, fire, wood, estus. The few cases a bonfire was destroyed it always involved either the Keeper dying or some entity who was deeply aligned with the core concepts of the universe that could do so, like the Soul of Cinder.
JustANormalLemon said:
How about gaara yeeet the bonfire away of the battle ground? He could BFR this way
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I mean, unless he specifically knew it or saw the man emerge from it, he wouldn't even think about doing that. And even if he did, unless he managed to bfr the thing o another dimension or to stupidly long distances, it'd be easy for the Ashen One to recover and get back to the fight.
 
EliminatorVenom said:
The entire bonfire is one thing. Sword, fire, wood, estus. The few cases a bonfire was destroyed it always involved either the Keeper dying or some entity who was deeply aligned with the core concepts of the universe that could do so, like the Soul of Cinder.
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Ok
EliminatorVenom said:
I mean, unless he specifically knew it or saw the man emerge from it, he wouldn't even think about doing that. And even if he did, unless he managed to bfr the thing o another dimension or to stupidly long distances, it'd be easy for the Ashen One to recover and get back to the fight.
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One of the problens are that the Ashen resurects from it and comback to fighting, If he dies sometimes I think Gaara would notice that his enemy os ressurecting and try to resolve that problem

I mean... How much time someone need's to be BFR to lose the fight? Depending on How much time Just lunch de bonfire Far enough and them killing the Ashen should be enough to him don't be able to comeback in time
 
OK, well now the Ashen One's at a massive disadvantage and will probably be even more paranoid than usual due to not knowing this new area so if they're smart, they would probably open with Camouflage, Invisibility or Spook which completely removes the sound of their footsteps or a combination of these things to stay out of sight of Gaara until he figures out how to deal with that sand. I know these are literally what every Shinobi ever can do, but it's still a useful set of abilities, especially the straight up Invisibility which Gaara hasn't dealt with yet. Combine that with with all the shit I said before and I still think the Ashen Ond wins, especially if they break out the Frost, Poison and Acid stuff early.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
OK, well now the Ashen One's at a massive disadvantage and will probably be even more paranoid than usual due to not knowing this new area so if they're smart, they would probably open with Camouflage, Invisibility or Spook which completely removes the sound of their footsteps or a combination of these things to stay out of sight of Gaara until he figures out how to deal with that sand. I know these are literally what every Shinobi ever can do, but it's still a useful set of abilities, especially the straight up Invisibility which Gaara hasn't dealt with yet. Combine that with with all the shit I said before and I still think the Ashen Ond wins, especially if they break out the Frost, Poison and Acid stuff early.
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Damn. I might've sent all those messages to Bernkastelll and MidnightDawn for nothing...
 
the resurrection thing has been explained that works only when is near those campfire things that is why Random changed the location

however if you want to vote Ashen feel free to do it since there are other arguments as well
 
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