Guts vs Tanjirou

[SheevShezarrine]

Guts vs Tanjirou Kamado

Black Swordsman Guts vs Demon Tanjirou

Guts can access Berserker Armor if pushed far enough and if it doesn't result in a stomp

Speed equalized

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Bump

 

[Phoenks]

Guts outskills and soul manips?

 

[Rez]

Guts fra

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Can Guts deal with the fear/paralysis aura? Nezuko had one in her berserk state so Tanjiro should as well.

How does Dragon Slayer's Soul Manipulation works? I know it can harm astral/incorperal beings, but if it stabs a human in the arm does this mean that the human's soul is damaged and he can't heal?

 

[Rez]

Can Guts deal with the fear/paralysis aura? Nezuko had one in her berserk state so Tanjiro should as well.

How does Dragon Slayer's Soul Manipulation works? I know it can harm astral/incorperal beings, but if it stabs a human in the arm does this mean that the human's soul is damaged and he can't heal?

Guts has been through too many of those fear aura situations so it's useless and the soul manipulation I am not sure how it works on physical beings

 

[Phoenks]

Imaging using fear manipulation on Guts...

Lol yeah that's not doing anything

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Guts via outskilling.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

It depends on how the Dragon Slayer interacts with physical beings. Without concrete anti-regen feats against non-Astrals, it would go to Demonjiro for being unkillable as he himself has anti-regen feats and scales to demons who resist anti-regen.

 

[Phoenks]

its soul based anti regen tho

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

its soul based anti regen tho

Demons in Kimetsu No Yaiba still have souls, right?

 

[The_Eldritch_Snowcone]

Guts FRA

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

its soul based anti regen tho

Yes and there are feats for that against astral/incorperal beings, but does Dragon Slayer have feats that makes it slashing/stabbing a physical being (like a human) = the soul of the physical being is damaged and the physical wound can't heal.

Demons in Kimetsu No Yaiba still have souls, right?

They do, but the issue is in whether damaging a physical being, instead of an astral being, damages souls.

 

[Duedate8898]

When damaging physical beings, Gut's sword also damages the soul so yeah, it should be fine. Also Gut's only gets resistance to Fear Manipulation while in the Berserk Armor by the looks of it, so unless he starts in it he's up for grab for fear manipulation. However, Demon Tanjirou lacks fear manipulation on his profile so it's not a factor for this fight by the looks of it.

 

[Waka1979]

Guts fra

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

Guts FRA

 

[SpookyShadow]

When damaging physical beings, Gut's sword also damages the soul so yeah, it should be fine. Also Gut's only gets resistance to Fear Manipulation while in the Berserk Armor by the looks of it, so unless he starts in it he's up for grab for fear manipulation. However, Demon Tanjirou lacks fear manipulation on his profile so it's not a factor for this fight by the looks of it.

I have planned to give him Resistance to Fearhax/empathichax because of him not being affected by Griffith's presence in any way, but there's an inactive ongoing CRT for the verse so I'll do that other time.

 

[Duedate8898]

If it's not on there, we can't use it to argue. An annoying site standard to run into, but it's one we got.

 

[Phoenks]

yeah and... I'm pretty sure such a weak fear manip wouldn't do shit to him anyway lol

 

[SpookyShadow]

I know we can't use it, but just wanted to mention it. But, supernatural willpower should cover it already nah?

 

[Duedate8898]

yeah and... I'm pretty sure such a weak fear manip wouldn't do shit to him anyway lol

Also, for that. He needs the armor by the looks of his profile to resist Fear. Until that gets listed, he won't be considered reistant outside of armor.

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

man that’s wack.

Can’t we just make him start out in the armor?

 

[Duedate8898]

I know we can't use it, but just wanted to mention it. But, supernatural willpower should cover it already nah?

Forgot he had that. Actually probably does let him resist it so ignore my last post about Fear manipulation.

 

[Phoenks]

this is at 6 votes for Guts btw.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Voting Guts.

After digging about Dragon Slayer soul damage on physical beings, the justification for it is that a stab from Dragon Slayer to Slan's avatar caused Slan more damage/pain than blowing a chunk of it with the handcanon which the avatar healed (though she liked it due to her creepy sadomasochism), and the stab was apparently directly responsible for dispelling the avatar. It can also be compared to Slan's avatar causing astral wounds through physical attacks.

 

[Phoenks]

grace

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Aye.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Aight guess Guts wins.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Added

 

[Duedate8898]

Closed this shall be