Lets see if the games are true? (Bowser vs Mario 1 VOTE LEFT)

[ShionAH]

Both are 2-B
They fight in the castle of peach
Speed is equalized
Both are in character

Bowser:3 (@Oleggator @Ican'tthinkof1goodname @King_Clab
Mario:7
(@Soupywolf5 @Supergamer100x
@Da_Lunge_Fish @Unwanteduser48 @Psychomaster35 @deonment @NotAMarioFan(lol) )
Noob (Incon):

 

[ShionAH]

This is a bad idea

 

[ShionAH]

bump

 

[Soupywolf5]

Fate Hax, GG

Do Mario and Bowser have all of their stuff?

 

[ShionAH]

Fate Hax, GG

Do Mario and Bowser have all of their stuff?

Yes all of it all the games

 

[ShionAH]

Bumpy

 

[Oleggator]

I'll say bowser.
As I know he have better hax, Mario's fate hax is reliable on peach(as I understand). Mostly Bowser have lost possibly because of fate hax and because of PIS. So I'm going with him.

 

[ShionAH]

I'll say bowser.
As I know he have better hax, Mario's fate hax is reliable on peach(as I understand). Mostly Bowser have lost possibly because of fate hax and because of PIS. So I'm going with him.

Soo Mario > Bowser is a game mechanic and mario has plot armour?
Okay

 

[Soupywolf5]

Yes all of it all the games

Alright then.

So both have a bunch of gear that renders some of the other's stuff useless (Both resist all of the other's status effects, which makes a bunch of their items worthless, and both actually share a lot of items in general)

While Bowser would normally have higher raw stats, Mario's constant passive 1.5x attack buff (From TOK) would mean he probably has the AP advantage overall, and he generally has more stat-amping options to further increase the gap (A hammer that deals more damage to spiked enemies like Bowser), Mario's vast arsenal of power-ups should give him much more to work with, and his bottomless gloves mean that he won't be running out of them, while Bowser's arsenal will be much more limited, and while Bowser can nullify some of his options, it only lasts for so long. Bowser has much better regen (Although I think Mario's regen might be getting upgraded) and greater stamina (But they both have stupidly high stamina, so neither is really going to be outlasting the other)

And yeah, I mentioned it as a joke, but Mario's fate hax would be a pretty big problem for Bowser, as it would make him unable to kill Mario and require him to use some form of incap (Such as Catch Cards), which isn't really in-character for Bowser to use against Mario (He usually just tries to kill him, which Mario's fate hax would say no to)

So overall, probably voting for Mario (the plumber abuses his protagonist privileges and slaps the gay turtle)

 

[ShionAH]

Alright then.

So both have a bunch of gear that renders some of the other's stuff useless (Both resist all of the other's status effects, which makes a bunch of their items worthless, and both actually share a lot of items in general)

While Bowser would normally have higher raw stats, Mario's constant passive 1.5x attack buff (From TOK) would mean he probably has the AP advantage overall, and he generally has more stat-amping options to further increase the gap (A hammer that deals more damage to spiked enemies like Bowser), Mario's vast arsenal of power-ups should give him much more to work with, and his bottomless gloves mean that he won't be running out of them, while Bowser's arsenal will be much more limited, and while Bowser can nullify some of his options, it only lasts for so long. Bowser has much better regen (Although I think Mario's regen might be getting upgraded) and greater stamina (But they both have stupidly high stamina, so neither is really going to be outlasting the other)

And yeah, I mentioned it as a joke, but Mario's fate hax would be a pretty big problem for Bowser, as it would make him unable to kill Mario and require him to use some form of incap (Such as Catch Cards), which isn't really in-character for Bowser to use against Mario (He usually just tries to kill him, which Mario's fate hax would say no to)

So overall, probably voting for Mario (the plumber abuses his protagonist privileges and slaps the gay turtle)

Counted

 

[ShionAH]

b u m p

 

[ShionAH]

B
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[AccelerAx]

Mario FRA

 

[Oleggator]

And yeah, I mentioned it as a joke, but Mario's fate hax would be a pretty big problem for Bowser, as it would make him unable to kill Mario and require him to use some form of incap (Such as Catch Cards), which isn't really in-character for Bowser to use against Mario (He usually just tries to kill him, which Mario's fate hax would say no to)

Question: isn't Mario's fate hax requires peach for working?

 

[ShionAH]

B u m p and can anyone answer the question above ^

 

[ShionAH]

ded thread?

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

Should probably call in more Mario experts. I would like to remind people though that Bowser technically exceeds Mario in both brains and brawn but is simply far less skilled and resourceful and suffers from his overconfidence and short temper. Mario is by far the better and more resourceful fighter and is more level-headed. Also, Mario is more athletic and maneuverable, while Bowser's size makes him a big target. I'm not voting right now because both of them have so many powers and so much equipment that it would all need to be considered and debated here first. Just reminding people here that it takes more than raw power to win a battle. This is something that needs to be kept in mind for all vs debates, because things like skill and level-headedness aren't listed as categories for obvious reasons of it being something you can't really measure.

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

Bowser FRA

 

[ShionAH]

Bump

 

[Oleggator]

Btw which 2B bowser.
Dreamy bowser or with pure hearts one?

 

[ShionAH]

Btw which 2B bowser.
Dreamy bowser or with pure hearts one?

Which one is more fair
Probably pure hearths

 

[Oleggator]

Ok, let it be hearts one.
Although I'm still thinking towards Bowser.

 

[ShionAH]

Ok, let it be hearts one.
Although I'm still thinking towards Bowser.

Fair

 

[ShionAH]

bump

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Koopa-murdering, Peach-neglecting, brother-abusing sociopath wins.

 

[ShionAH]

Koopa-murdering, Peach-neglecting, brother-abusing sociopath wins.

I assume thats mario counted

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

I assume thats mario counted

yeah

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Can't forget that he also murdered thousands of innocents

 

[ShionAH]

bump

 

[ShionAH]

bump

 

[Unwanteduser48]

Mario FRA

 

[Oleggator]

Question: isn't Mario's fate hax requires peach for working?

Would like to bump the question

 

[UltraChair]

I think the way Mario fatehax works is that he made a wish to always be able to save Peach, and then Star Road granted it or something among those lines.

 

[Oleggator]

Then it shouldn't technically work on this battle, since there's no peach near.

 

[UltraChair]

I think it might work on situation that would make him incapable of ever saving Peach, keep in mind it says "always be able to save Peach" (ex. If Bowser like, literally killed Mario or something), but then again, I haven't played SMRPG in a while, so take this with a grain of salt.

 

[King_Clab]

BOWSER FRA

 

[Oleggator]

I think it might work on situation that would make him incapable of ever saving Peach, keep in mind it says "always be able to save Peach" (ex. If Bowser like, literally killed Mario or something), but then again, I haven't played SMRPG in a while, so take this with a grain of salt.

I'll say there's still a good possibility of KO'ing Mario(for instance beggining of Mario Odyssey).

 

[Psychomaster35]

Usual winner in the games FRA

 

[Unwanteduser48]

Mario via Stars, I guess?

 

[ShionAH]

Mario via Stars, I guess?

Didnt you aleady vote