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  1. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    i only agree with your taste. good luck on those studies
  2. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    will make it short since i am about to collapse from being tired and need to go to sleep. Merc=everyone does the exact same for all eternity. Everyone else afterwards= "do whatever the **** you want humans" but "limitless possibilities" doesn't equate to "limitless paralel self-sustaining...
  3. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    pretty sure all 3 of them did, at least in regards to the desires that birthed their laws
  4. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    this may be the first time we agree on something. everything seems to meaningless after Satanael. we go from the first three being about the nature of good and evil to the rest being about self satisfaction. everything from the 4th to the 7th can burn in hell for its meaninglessness
  5. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    i think that that might have been Rea saying it actually, but she was told a lot of info on the situation with Karl's world. and no, it didn't say "our possibilities are limitless under Karl", it said "Now that he isn't in charge, our possibilities are endless", most likely in refference to not...
  6. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    which is why we dont look at fact strictly in isolation and i also bring up what Marie said. in order to make a pattern, you need more than 1 point. not sure if this was from CSI or a quote from something else, but there is a quote that says "2 points make a line, 3 make a pattern". i...
  7. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    which is why paid proofreaders exist
  8. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    Goetia did. Amaterasu is at least comparable. if you want to talk "3000" worlds or whatever that is, you have the alien god messing with galaxies. and of course, a multiverse would be bigger than 3000 anyway. not to mention that Servants will often use terms native to their culture when...
  9. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    World there refers to the entirety of reality under the Throne, which is a multiverse, idiot. Then there's also the fact that as I said, Eigou Kaiki is a Management Type Law and predetermines all. So then there's only one reality, the path along the timestream Mercurius sets. So much for calling...
  10. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

  11. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    you would have to mention specific examples since i dont follow the NA TL all that much in any way shape or form. i just go from the directly translated JP stuff from people with a good quality track record. not that i care much about Nasu nowadays anyway. 40K and Sigmar all the way baby.
  12. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    LIGHT aprroved and paid for this translation. i dont give a damn if you dont like it. it is out there as the official product. deal with it. "Where are you getting "multiverse is the size of a Grand Cross" from there". the part where it extends along the whole "multiverse". "I wasn't even...
  13. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    "BTW, Laws in Shinza can follow two types depeding on how much free will they allow: Control/Management Type and Freedom Type. Eigou Kaiki is the former: it allows absolutely no free will beyond what's already predetermined to happen. Across the entire multiverse. This necessarily reducing it to...
  14. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    i do very much enjoy your smug attitude while at the same time forgetting that said "multiverse" is only about as big as a galaxy (if you do the math), give or take. but please, tell me how a multiverse of defined and limited size is infinite and endless
  15. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    why did you assume that i was talking about DI or hadou gods specifically when i was mentioning the wiki as a whole?
  16. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    if you watch the video which i actually linked you will see that Merc says EXACTLY this and no proof of the contrary is ever given.
  17. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    so if enough people say it then that is reality? i guess back in the day the world was indeed flat and the sun went around the earth because, hey, people said it often enough. 1- did you miss the part where that "24D" barrier was stated to be shattered by mountain level attacks? seems like a...
  18. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    please watch the video. it is a direct speech from Merc and a statement of fact and the very first thing you see when you boot the game. it is literally a straight statement of the premisse of the entire story you will be reading after you boot it. "how everything in this world like your...
  19. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    1- well at least we agree on that first one. lack of info, extreme highball and extreme lowball, bias, etc, but most pages in this wiki have that anyway. 2- hey i got attacked first and it isnt the first or the fifth time that i have come to discuss calmly and people actually get massively...
  20. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    i think people just have an issue with your consensus being way too far off or otherwise taking stuff out of context. but that is not the point. the point is discussing the relevant scans.
  21. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    i expect you to have been unfortunately corrupted by such dishonesty despite your probable previous purity if you have read the works in question and dont speak out against said dishonesty. "all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"
  22. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    not when you have gods saying stuff like "there is only one reality" / "you didnt give us any possibilities" and "limiteless possibilities are just an illusion in this world" so, 2 gods saying those exact words and Ren and Reinhard saying the same throughout the story by other words.
  23. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    makes it funny when people screencap admins on this page ******** on these very same groups. honestly, i dont expect much in the way of intellectual honesty or logic from anyone on this entire wiki.
  24. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    meaningless. a concept that was not executed and to this day stays as merely an idea until a story written on the topic and not "muh horrible hellish timeloop" is written. you trusting this statement is you calling Merc in the prologue a liar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWF-2SbfI8&t=1s...
  25. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    the more close off groups only let you debate in extensive formats. the ones you want to go for are the ones that focus on "private debating", which gives you a number of turns to make your arguments that you are then graded by a jury of your peers that are handpicked.
  26. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    did you miss the extensive explanation on the topic within the first hour, the mention of universes with intelligent dynossaurs (among many other specific mentions in the same explanation), the notion that Setsuna's universe was the only one where earth didnt have a concept of religion and went...
  27. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    a LOOOOOOOOOOT of facebook groups dedicated to the activity exist. especially the ones where you got to prove every aspect of your argument for every statement or idea that you make about a character
  28. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    good to know this fandom's skill at projecting their actions and insecurities unto others hasn't changed. (wonder how the other fandoms in this gag tier wiki are doing) (you do know that you guys are a constant gag for most of the debating communities outside of this page, right?) i dont...
  29. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    also @Trexalfa29 take a damn chill pill
  30. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    "Why do you think the cimentation of multiverse as CANON to Shinza are "random mentions"? Aside from willful ignorance, I mean. " the fact that Merc, Shirou and Rein contradict those notions dozens of times over in Dies Irae. "Oh enlighten me, how are you gonna SEE a multiverse like that when...
  31. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    I will believe that once i actually see a multiverse in that classic sense, not just random mentions of it. i await until we see alternatve versions of existing characters or adequately shown examples of alternate timelines. (as in, in a way that people can point to one and go "this is the way...
  32. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    And here i thought giving the story of the era of the 1st Heaven's rule was a bad call because it would reveal too much shit too early. This seems way more problematic. It definetely is starting to feel like Masada is scared of not being able to finish the story somehow and wants to put the...
  33. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion thread 27

    So, a thing came to mind randomly about what Merc did that changed the Throne and made a "multiverse" (i dont believe it resulted in regular multiverse theory, basically and dont see good enough evidence of the contrary). Ok, so Satananel is stated in the pantheon prologue to have somehow used...
  34. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion Thread 24

    well, to begin with, 1-A implies shit like acausality and immunity to time manipulation and time travel and retcons. yet hadou gods cant time travel (unless their specific abilities allow for that) Satanael retconned the previous gods according to you guys. Merc can apparently retcon Hajun...
  35. Embracetophats

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    do you see something being stated that she moves the shot through space? did you also forget her regular usage of portals when she travels through space as well? those portals are not present during the shot and we see the shot travel, unimpeded
  36. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion Thread 24

    i aint asking for a downgrade just yet i am A- asking for evidence and B- suggesting that the freeze on the matches should be in place until pantheon answers some key questions
  37. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion Thread 24

    Actually most of the 1-A stuff comes from Yakou talking about the Throne and Singularity and Yato talking about various parts of the verse. you mean the ones that you guys actually have that when you run them through an image translator only talks about diluting sugar and regular humans not...
  38. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion Thread 24

    well, just gonna leave this here because of pantheon, because it is something i have seen on forums for years now and you guys dont address this, regardless of how high up you want to place taikyoku...
  39. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion Thread 24

    and yet no reasonable proof has been shown to actually showcase 1-A besides people putting words in the author's mouth. and somehow justifying it by quoting machina vs madara when the scene says that it wasnt taikyoku but physical strenght that broke the barrier and are using machina of all...
  40. Embracetophats

    Masadaverse Discussion Thread 24

    well, at least this is the first showing that their verse isnt just the planet earth
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