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  1. JJSliderman

    Sonic cosmology part 4: The leftovers

    This thread mainly serves to clear up some of the lingering points from this one: https://vsbattles.com/threads/sonic-cosmology-part-3-the-end-of-magingelion.162699/page-3 since they weren’t resolved and that thread is very long now. I’d also recommend potentially reading this blog one more...
  2. JJSliderman

    Sonic Cosmology part 3: The End of Magingelion

    As of this thread, Maginaryworld is accepted as baseline 5-D for the game continuity. Since most of the scaling is already obvious, the only notable addition is Metal Overlord, who I believe should get god tier scaling for similar reasons as Light Man Eggman. Maybe Metal’s other super forms too...
  3. JJSliderman

    The Game Sonic cosmology upgrade 2: Dimensional Boogaloo

    Continuing on from this thread, hopefully we can stay more on topic this time. As before, all the relevant information and arguments are here. Credit to ShakeResounding and Greenshifter for looking over it and proofreading. As a tl;dr (this is primarily focused on the concept of hyper...
  4. JJSliderman

    Attempting to upgrade the game Sonic cosmology

    Now that the recent Otherworld Comedy and Sonic Dream Team have come out, I can finally make an attempt at upgrading the size of Game Sonic's cosmology (to coincide with the Archie boost). All the relevant information and arguments are here. Credit to ShakeResounding for looking over it and...
  5. JJSliderman

    EGGMAN SHOOTS PEOPLE IN THE FACE but it’s Low 2-C

    I have not learned my lesson from the 2-A Base Sonic attempt, but I think it’s high time Eggman finally got the respect he deserves. Currently, his physicals are sitting at Low 2-C durability and Building level strength, but I think that we can go a little higher. There are several times in the...
  6. JJSliderman

    MULTI+ BASE TAILS???

    As a recreation of this thread. The original premise of upgrading base Sonic to 2-A fell flat, so now the focus is on creating digitized keys for Tails/Knuckles/Amy, and giving them 2-B/2-A with forcefield creation like Sage, as they were able to reinforce Sage’s barrier to take hits from The...
  7. JJSliderman

    2-B to 2-A Forcefields for Base Digitized Knuckles/Amy/Tails

    Gonna keep this simple. Void is rated as 2-B to 2-A for being able to destroy all of Maginaryworld. And Sonic fought him in base. In the past, this was deemed as an outlier for base Sonic, but thanks to rings the scaling could be circumvented for the Adventure Era. However, on Infinite’s...
  8. JJSliderman

    The Power of Chi: Kung Fu Panda

    So, now that Po is Uni+ and MFTL+, it’s time to add some abilities to him. Currently, the Wellspring is accepted to be responsible for the creation of the Shuyong Tree and the Eternal Chord. CONNECTION BETWEEN WELLSPRING AND SHUYONG/EC+WELLSPRING HYPE STATEMENTS: https://imgur.com/a/rkMupxJ...
  9. JJSliderman

    Everything in the game Sonic profile I have some issue with (removal version)

    Since people told me to take all my issues with Sonic’s profile elsewhere, I figured I’d do that. *Durability Negation/Power null for Excalibur Sonic: False, he very clearly takes many swings to destroy barriers, this is just chipping away at a barrier until it breaks. Excalibur being able to...
  10. JJSliderman

    Madara seeks vengeance on the aliens: Madara Uchiha vs Dark Samus

    Echoes Dark Samus pre-endgame Vs Juubi Jinchuuriki Dual Rinnegan+Rinne Sharingan Madara (the 5-B one) Speed Equalized, battle takes place where the Fourth Shinobi War was held. Ninja Hax God: Alien Hax Goddess: (Winter, XSOULOFCINDERX, BrackishBrineBroth, DaReaperMan) Spider-Man (incon):
  11. JJSliderman

    Low 2-C KFP discussion

    If you haven’t seen this thread, please read through, as I’ll be referring back to it a fair bit. Most of it passed comfortably, but the topic of Low 2-C was asked to be discussed in a separate thread. The main argument for it is that, as established in the series, chi is within all living...
  12. JJSliderman

    3-A, possibly Low 2-C and MFTL+ Kung Fu Panda remake

    Because this thread ended up fizzling, I decided to make a new one. The premise of this thread will be upgrading post-KFP3 chi-enhanced Po to 3-A in some capacity, and any characters who scale, along with potentially a speed upgrade. Also credit to GyroNutz for helping with some of this...
  13. JJSliderman

    Possible small addition to super forms

    Currently, it’s accepted that Mephiles has Low-Godly regen, as he’s capable of regenerating a physical body as a non-tangible shadow. Since Solaris has all of Mephiles’ abilities, and has an explicitly pointed out core consciousness, I feel it’s feasible that this consciousness in the Solaris...
  14. JJSliderman

    Jak upgrades

    Tried this awhile ago, but I figured I’d give it another go after thinking about it a little bit. There are arguments that can get Jak and Daxter to planet level on a highball. 1: Precursor Stone In Jak 2, it was established by numerous sources (namely Samos, who had a great attunement with...
  15. JJSliderman

    At the Hedge of Tomorrow, a Titanic CRT!

    Yes this should have been in the main Frontiers CRT but, it was suggested to make it its own thread: Base Sonic and his scaling to the Titans. For the record, I’m not trying to scale him to them in all aspects. In terms of AP and durability, Sonic is clearly outclassed. Sonic’s only physical...
  16. JJSliderman

    Living timeline vs pseudo-living timeline

    Yeah, let’s give it a go. Archie Solaris Vs Time Power Unleashed Mechikabura (Do I equalize speed here, not sure. If necessary ig.) The best boss in ‘06: Demon god: Incon:
  17. JJSliderman

    Change to the Blue Wisp

    Simply put, the Blue Wisp’s transmutation should be changed. When it’s used on anything that’s not a blue ring or blue cube, the entity is not transformed into a cube, just encased in one, lowering their durability enough to be destroyed with a single touch. This is consistent with how it...
  18. JJSliderman

    Maginaryworld: Possibly 2-A?

    I know the Maginaryworld discussion already wrapped up but, I figured it was worth positing. Maginaryworld is currently accepted as a structure consisting of countless universes*the number of regular dimensions in Sonic. However, I think there’s potential to push it a little higher. Multiple...
  19. JJSliderman

    Organ durability vs shell durability

    Is there a confirmed ratio between the durability of an animal’s shell vs the durability of their internal organs to tank impacts? Say, for something like the ironclad beetle or a turtle?
  20. JJSliderman

    Possible big Metroid AP downgrades+tiny ability removal

    I really don’t wanna have to do this, but sometimes things need to be done. Metroid as a verse currently has several Planet level feats, as well as a Small Star level one. However, after talking with others and examining all these feats myself, I don’t think they hold up that well, so let’s get...
  21. JJSliderman

    Beyblade Metal Fusion downgrades

    So, I was looking back through the Beyblade Metal Saga again, and wanted to talk about some elements that didn't seem quite right. First off is Gingka's 3-A rating in Metal Fusion, which comes from him turning Thermal Pisces's pocket dimension into a universe. It seems fine on the...
  22. JJSliderman

    Soul manipulation question

    If a character can come back from soul destruction, does that mean they can also come back and continue fighting when their soul is absorbed by someone else? Similarly, if a character can resist soul destruction, does that mean they also resist soul absorption, or are they mutually exclusive?
  23. JJSliderman

    Small change to RBAY Dedede

    Much like the Wario thread on the same topic, Anime Dedede's regeneration should be downgraded to High-Mid, since his eyes are still remaining, as you can see in the scene of Dedede turning to ash.
  24. JJSliderman

    The Cat and the Rat (0/0/0)

    Get it, cuz...one can turn into a panther. This is probably a bad idea. It's a battle of 2-C, Immeasurable, layered time manipulating, gun using, decades-asleep, black and red clad (for Bayonetta 1 anyway) characters who fight demons (Devil Doom counts I think). Time for the big climax. Bayo...
  25. JJSliderman

    Adding a possible weakness to Echoes Dark Samus

    I probably should have brought this up in the last thread I made on Dark Samus, since it involves the regen, but it kinda slipped my mind. To clarify, this isn't about the actual regeneration, more how viable it is in a standard vs setting. Essentially, Dark Samus could survive the events of...
  26. JJSliderman

    Should Jenny go back to 4-B?

    So I know Jenny was downgraded a long time ago, but recently I have heard of something that could circumvent the fact that Jenny didn’t push the sun in question. Although she didn’t, in the ritual itself she was blasted with energy that caused her to convulse, before she fired it from her head...
  27. JJSliderman

    Minor Scotsman change

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Scotsman Scotsman is scaling to Jack in his first key, but Jack is no longer Large Building. So just remove Scotsman’s first key and have only one for the first four seasons.
  28. JJSliderman

    Dark Samus mid-godly

    “Likely Mid-Godly. Even as near end-game Dark Samus, she was shown to be potentially able to survive complete essence destruction, and given that her Regeneration scales to the amount of Phazon she has, she has likely reached the ability to completely regenerate from it” Could I maybe receive a...
  29. JJSliderman

    Possible downgrade for Base Sonic tiers

    So, this calc was recently accepted, showing that the Eclipse Cannon is small Star level via piercing the sun. I don’t really have a problem with most of this Calc, with the exception of the width of the pierced space. It assumes the hole made in the sun is 20,705 km in order to be visible, but...
  30. JJSliderman

    Removing hax resistances from Shadow, Espio, and Silver

    So, atm, Shadow, Silver, and Espio (games) are given resistances to mind manip, possession, and soul binding, with the justification of resisting the Ifrit. Now I don't have problem with Ifrit having this hax, moreso that there isn't really any indication the aforementioned characters resisted...
  31. JJSliderman

    Time Eater erasing the universe

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gilad_Hyperstar/Sonic_Generations:_Time_Eater_destroys_Classic_Sonic%27s_Universe This calc makes the claim that the Time Eater erased Classic Sonic's whole universe in the timeframe given. But, is that confirmed? The Time Eater's deal is traveling...
  32. JJSliderman

    Kick Buttowski upgrade

    Clearly Kick should have physics and law manipulation, Ronaldo said after his race with Kick that Kick broke the laws of physics. Kick says laws were made to be broken, and he overwrote the laws of physics with the laws of awesome.
  33. JJSliderman

    Master Egg Blaster?

    Was on Discord when someone brought up that in the original Japanese, the Egg Blaster was stated to destroy a large amount of hoshi. There’s an obvious bit of debacle with that word, so is there solid proof that the Egg Blaster destroyed stars and not planets?
  34. JJSliderman

    Very minor Po addition

    Forgot to add this in my last KFP thread, but in the episode "Way of the Prawn", Po uses pressure point techniques to put Tigress to sleep/cause her to become unconscious. So he should get Pressure Point usage added to his KFP and Paws of Destiny pages, and with them he gets Sleep Manipulation...
  35. JJSliderman

    Stuff about Xenoblade 2

    Could I maybe get all the notable instances of tier 2 scaling for Xenoblade 2? I looked through threads and the game's script and a lot of it seems either based on vague statements or dubious scaling to the Architect.
  36. JJSliderman

    Solaris upgrade

    Solaris is referred to as a "superdimensional life form" This means that he is above dimensions. Dimensions in Sonic, as demonstrating by Sonic Shuffle, likely refer to spatio-temporal dimensions. Since Solaris is superdimensional, he transcends 4th Dimension Space, and thus should be...
  37. JJSliderman

    Vegeta vs Shadow but a little different

    Vegeta is in his Galactic Patrol Prisoner Saga key vs 4-A Super Shadow. Speed Equalized Who wins? The prince of won't shut the hell up: 0 The coolest: 2 (ElixirBlue, JED) They vent for an hour and leave: 0
  38. JJSliderman

    Four penguins and a volcano

    I know this probably won't get very good results in terms of scaling to the characters but I'm curious. Dr. Blowhole's laser overloading caused this volcano base to explode and Blowhole was right next to the laser. The base was seemingly destroyed afterwards, given the pieces of floating...
  39. JJSliderman

    Possible Tai Lung addition

    In the first movie, Tai Lung is stated by Po to have mastered the thousand scrolls of Kung Fu. This is important because in Legends of Awesomeness Po reads these scrolls himself, and is where he learns the Fluttering Finger Mindslip (the move Po used to have before it got removed) from one of...
  40. JJSliderman

    Emperor's Rule: Ryuga (Beyblade) vs Frieza (Dragon Ball)

    It's my most wanted vs fight so let's give it a go. Metal Fury Ryuga vs Broly Saga Golden Frieza, speed equalized. Who truly reigns supreme, the Emperor of the Universe or the Dragon Emperor? Ryuga: 5 (Garchomp777, Havok, ProfessorKukui4Life, Cropfist, Milly_Rocking_Bandit) Frieza: 0 Incon: 0
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