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  1. Asdtgh

    DMC: abstract edition

    Agreed. Stated quite plainly and simple, really
  2. Asdtgh

    Alex Mercer vs Cole McGrath (PROTOTYPE VS inFAMOUS)

    Ah I see. So, we're focusing on the whole John quote with him stating that he has to rebuild himself atom by atom. Even though there's the big fat fact that the Raysphere at that time seemed very special to have all that energy be sucked in as a vortex that disintegrated him, rather than...
  3. Asdtgh

    Alex Mercer vs Cole McGrath (PROTOTYPE VS inFAMOUS)

    Gentlemen, I have returned to the grounds of this debate. But what's all this about Sasha having "sub-atomic" disease manipulation via her tar?
  4. Asdtgh

    Devil May Plot: Venturer to the Neverland

    Didn't Dante explicitly stated that it's because of Peter's weak demonic power, keyword being power, he can resist against his plot manipulation? It works on human children, but not him. And like how every demon in DMC2 can resist Argosax's casual time-stop, but will be affected by the stronger...
  5. Asdtgh

    Devil May Plot: Venturer to the Neverland

    Agreed. It seems quite point-blank stated Dante can resist Peter Pan's story telling of his Neverland.
  6. Asdtgh

    Spider-Man General Discussion

    Anyone knows who to direct to on calculations for Spider-Man if I'm not able to do the calcs myself?
  7. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    Then it doesn't need to work for both ways, especially since Loptr's known for his teleportation and portals. Go ahead and ignore it, can't debunk anything, can you? So the things you bring to the table are supplementary to support your argument, yet the things I bring to the table are just...
  8. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    The goddamn two times he has shot his attacks through it. That is your proof. Of all times he has ever done his "immeasurable attack speed" projectiles, he shoots them through the RoT. And this whole time we're supposed to acknowledge those attacks as immeasurable speed through an assumption...
  9. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    Your own showcasing of the feats has him point-blank, in-your-face using the RoT to backfire against Loki. And it's also up to you to prove that Loptr, a being capable of manipulating the RoTs as a separated being of Aesir, does not need any time manipulation and use only his attack's speed to...
  10. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    Oh it does. Unless you have better proof that the attacks aren't at all supported by time hax, this is a counter-argument you haven't denied, just ignored. They're not just memories but visions of Aesir. Visions that can depict not just the history of everyone but also their presents and...
  11. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    They're one in the same. How else do you think Loki could reverse the damages in Noatun, as well as Bayonetta for the Umbra Witch Resting Places?
  12. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    And it is through these memories Loki is even able to reverse the damages of structures within Noatun. Via Time Manipulation. It is as painfully obvious as it already is that the RoTs, be it portals or "just memories", played a role with how young Loptr's attacks are delivered to Loki. These two...
  13. Asdtgh

    Spider-Man General Discussion

    Aw hell. Man, I thought we could include them to the game character (including the TASM game series and the TASM mobile games, Java and touchscreen) but now we're just treating them as "different characters". This is some o' BS. But eh, I can work with this. Got some good feats for Raimi Games...
  14. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    Same with assuming young Loptr not needing RoTs to attack Loki via Immeasurable speed. Cause you yourself are assuming that Loptr does not require a Remembrance to even reach Loki, therefore we might as well have explicit proof that he can indeed attack him without a Remembrance, a depiction of...
  15. Asdtgh

    Spider-Man General Discussion

    Aye bois, just want to check on the Raimi Games that are acceptable to be used for scaling. We can't use anything else like the SM2 N-Gage, SM2 PSP, SM3 Java and the GBA, NDS versions BUT SM2 PC, SM2 GC/PS2/Xbox, SM3 PS2/Wii/PSP and SM3 PC/PS3/Xbox360, correct? Despite SM2 PSP following the...
  16. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    And it's what Loki would use to even restore Noatun's places back to its glory and bring back the old tsunami in the first place, along with other instances. Either by throwing his card at the RoT he conjured or exploding out an energy wave. Same way as how he would do it with the time reversing...
  17. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    I'm saying they act like portals. Maybe not exactly portals but they are still basically time manipulation. Plus, most of the times we've seen Loki's powers are always surrounding the idea of using RoTs considering that Aesir's signature ability via his eyes are those visions/memories of the...
  18. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    Ahh, so that's what gave DOOM the exception. If that were the case, I don't remember anything about Bayoverse having speed feats blitzing time itself. And I've already disagreed with using RoTs as an argument, so I'll change my mind to disagreeing with Immeasurable speed unless a Bayonetta...
  19. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    With the different reasoning and supporting evidence for immeasurable speed, pretty much yes
  20. Asdtgh

    Transdual Bayonetta

    glassman12 makes a somewhat good point about immeasurable attack speed for prime Aesir, but you can try to assume this can be applied to Loptr gaining both Sovereign and Prophet powers, Sovereign having control of the RoTs anyway. Still, I also agree that the RoTs are still somewhat acting like...
  21. Asdtgh

    What versions are allowed to be used to scale Spider-Man (Raimi Games)?

    Hello, quick question on this character profile. Since there are numerous versions of the Spider-Man tie-in games and this character is being scaled off of: SM1 PS2/Xbox/PC version SM2 PC version SM2 PS2/Xbox/GameCube version SM3 PS2/Wii/PSP version SM3 PS3/Xbox360/PC version , what other...
  22. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Here's another hint for what Ginnungagap is (Or basically the whole answer since this is getting out of hand and I do tend to get impatient. Apologies). It wasn't identified by the two clans simply, even with the Eyes of the World. These eyes were supposed to be able to see anything and...
  23. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Help. None. The less. Need I remind you Loptr had been calm the entire time until he "went shook" once Loki blue-balled him from obtaining his goal of reviving a new era as its god with Nothingness? That Trump Card was the only thing that really got him worried. Surprised by the satellite...
  24. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Even though the EoTW do to the point it can alter his own form and body and is a part of Aesir? You even considered that the Left Eye of Darkness does amp Bayonetta in your post. Not to mention, Loptr, right before he transformed into an impression of Aesir, said the eyes hold power. Along with...
  25. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Galens right. I was also wondering what scan put Paradiso infinitely superior than WoC in size? Edit: I mean sure, WoC is infinite in the amount of timelines. So technically it's still Paradiso being infinite. But in comparison to WoC? I don't remember that
  26. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Even though the mind hax happened after she got ragdolled by his energy blasts? And she was panting and struggling to stand firm and strong before the flashback?
  27. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Sure, as clearly seen here. Even though Bayonetta looked tired and worn out while Loptr calmly proclaimed her power is not great enough to even handle him. Not even able to perceive his true identity, just his blue energy silhouette. And you forgot to mention she didn't lose to them since Loki...
  28. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Wasn't the whole point of old Baldur making Bayonetta reawaken the LEoD to re-awaken Jubileus strength, especially considering she was sealed away? Except the original Aesir's true power, Nothingness. Loki explicitly said why he was the better half by holding onto this trump card. And Aesir...
  29. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    I see You guys might need to clarify that the Jubileus and Aesir that Bayonetta "beat the crap out of" are still their lesser versions of themselves, not the full powered ones. Jubileus at that time only had the REoL while Bayonetta was competing her with the LEoD. Along with her using Queen...
  30. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    I mean technically, it is arguing against the current Tiering of Bayonetta anyway, which is still deciding tiers. But outside of that, I'm prepared to see what Comicgyal, you and Minaj has to say about the diamonds being higher dimensions. Cause that hypothesis is not even close to being right...
  31. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Sorry about this dudes, but I couldn't keep up with the thread cause I'm busy. Can I please get a rundown/summary of what everyone's stands are for Bayonetta's Tier? Mine is Tier Low 1-C/5D, possibly higher
  32. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    I'll agree with Comicgirl on this. It actually had been hinted as a dimension before in Bayonetta 2. Just need to piece the puzzles together Still preparing my material while realising some things that align with my counter-argument. Still unchanged on 5D Bayoverse
  33. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    The Gaping Abyss scan (Heheh, "Gaping") and coming back from it are the same. Think you made a mistake there
  34. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    1. Pretty much. 2. Almost the same thing as 1 3. Tier 2-A 4. 5-D yes. And encompasses but not just between the Multiverse. Cold. 5. Getting hotter. 6. Getting colder. Infact, I think you repeat yourself again with 4 This can be seen as my claim but I'll explain it further with my own research...
  35. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Who said Ginnungagap is only the abyss between the Human World's universes? Because of its name "The Chaotic Rift"? Comicgyal pointed it out that the Paradiso Angels and Infernal Demons can still be found popping around Ginnungagap or the Human World's universes. And how else other than another...
  36. Asdtgh

    Clarifications on Bayonetta’s ratings

    Oh you'd be surprised. Here's a hint, read the Echoes of Memories' entries "The Isle Between (1)", "The Isle Between (2)" & "The Isle Between (3)". You'll get the full picture.
  37. Asdtgh

    1-B Bayonetta Verse Upgrades

    I am compliant with 5D, as Singularity's shenanigans were affecting Ginnungagap on some level. 6D is already leaning towards disagree and Tier 1-C and/or higher is a definite disagree. Thanks
  38. Asdtgh

    1-B Bayonetta Verse Upgrades

    Sorry
  39. Asdtgh

    1-B Bayonetta Verse Upgrades

    And remember, the key design of the Bayonetta Franchise is to look good, not moronic as a wall of diamonds forever going beyond the horizon just to be accurate
  40. Asdtgh

    1-B Bayonetta Verse Upgrades

    Is it now? And you sure the diamonds, if they're being actually treated as dimensional levels, are being represented properly? Why do certain areas of Noatun have different numbers of diamond layers but also a circle inside it like the entry's picture? Like the one seen on the long bridge to...
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