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Even if the scaling rules wasn't a thing. Arale never tries or is serious in pretty much any situation (This is one of Arale's weaknesses on her profile). So it's very likely that Arale wasn't going full speed there.
Look here
I wanted to post the Toriyama page on the wiki long ago, it has looked like a completed profile for like over a year. But random new abilities keep getting added, delaying it. 😭
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Friend
This character manipulated the entire world, becoming the world president. & making them believe he was God. He should probably have a spot some where.
Some pretty good Manipulators that could get a spot.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arale_Norimaki_(Dr._Slump)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hannibal_Lecter
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Johan_Liebert
Something being a simular power consistency is subjective though. Like Dragonball characters have destroyed planets way more time than universes. Technically those could be address as outliers. But since the contradiction isn't there it doesn't matter. ~~like 5D hakai Beerus 🗿~~
"efforts should be made to try to reconcile outliers with other canon information, and only very extreme examples should be classed as completely unusable"
The first part of that page is kind of subjective. But the feat isn't inconsistent in terms of it being contradicted. Many abilities on the...
Everything you said that is contradiction isn't necessarily a contradiction. Everyone in Dr. Slump ***** on Toriyama, & they are fictional characters who he made. Just because another fiction character in a cartoon full of asspulls can scale above him in some way doesn't prove contradiction.
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It doesn't necessarily make it a contradiction though tbf. It just means any character with 5D stuff wouldn't have the same range as Arale.
Plus outlier just means something different that happened alot. Like the majority of the feats in dbs could be considered outliers. However they are not...
I would personally pick the option which could happened without ignoring feats that happened in series if possible. For now I agree with 5D hakai hax & 5D Toon Resistance. Doesn't seem to matter at this point though :(
Idk if the different world physics matter that much. In dbs Senbei pulled...
What exactly is the contradiction here? Outlier is probably the most overused & unhelpful term know to man. Is there no other explanations that can have this feat exist other than calling it a contradiction?
& wouldn't worst case scenario be they have that power but shitty range? If the hakai =...
Saitama wins. One of Arale's weaknesses is shell never take a fight seriously & will purposely take hits.
I'm gonna ignore the 4th Wall abilities that weren't banned on Arale's page. They are hyperbole & outliers 😤.
I dont mind removing that infinite speed part tbh.
I'm still mad that characters physically flying past their infinte universe info a different space time isn't infinte speed by standards, out of pocket
Theres stories that toribot wrote that are called "non fiction" in comparison to the slump stories that lack that. Plus the author avatars have showed to exist beyond the boundaries of the 4D cosmology on multiple occasions. Now on why the characters don't scale to him uhhhhh...uhhh..... I would...
Iirc the way it got accepted (abstract concept stuff), was through other information that did mention ideas or stuff akin to that. It should be on the profile.
Theres places that have the definition of idea talking about concepts or conceptions. Plus you didn't really explain how it isn't for those words, they all connect afterall. This is some non corporeal entity that fused with the universe were talking about. Not transmission between neurons. IZ...
Wait so can someone explain how a concept & idea are semantically different? If you look up the definitions idea & concept link back to each other. So if someone has abstract existence based on an idea then they would be a conceptual abstract, no?
Since everyone here can see the profile anyways. Question, can I add stuff to Toriyama's plot hax from stuff that happened in the super anime? Like creating manipulating, destroying Infinte Zamasu would be Concept Manipulation technically.
I think for the evidence with Mashirito, it's more akin to he Tanked the EE effect, but its up to interpretation. Alot of the Dr. Slump feats take mental gymnastics to figure out, so he could have hgr. Arale has more concrete HGR feats. So if Beerus was going to destroy her then it would be hgr...
Oh no. LMAOO. What's funnier is that episode would probably give Beerus more buffs, because Mashirito (the ghost Beerus erased) likely resists plot erasure. Conversely, even though it's makes sense, it feels like wank 💀, buts it's still really funny.
Basic EE from another verse somehow bypassing people with a tangible resistance (by definition) is a massive assumption anyways. There's no proof they can.
But what Is the cause of it not working? Their power/ki. EE ignores ap if there is no resistance. However, their power semantically resist that effect. The burden of proof is on you to prove characters out of verse can resist that effect or can overcome characters that has shown resistance to...
If you're overpowering the effect & negating it. Then they resisted it. All resistance means is to withstand or not be affected. Which is exactly what they did.
Also what you showed with the power stuff propagates layer superiority. When they power up it improves their potency & resistance...
The EE that ignored ap in certain verse isn't inherently better. The problem is in the DB example it still showed them resisting that effect. As long as the EE effect is similar or the same, there is no reason they wouldn't resist it. Saying a character can erase people who showed to resist it...
Bruh, how are gonna say that without responding to all the points. It could just be said you're making a desperate attempt to downplay the verse. But in actuality this statement & yours dont mean anything.