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  1. ElixirBlue

    Archie Sonic Upgrades; 2-C base cast, Tons of new Abilities and more

    Low 2-C for the verse. It’s consistent with non-emerald feats, like Sonic and Robotnik tanking the Flickie Zone destruction or Sonic reversing the Quantum dial from ripping the space-time continuum to create a black hole. Heck, there is an argument Archie’s super forms don’t increase physical...
  2. ElixirBlue

    Archie Sonic Upgrades; 2-C base cast, Tons of new Abilities and more

    Well, never mind. At most, those scans with the half emeralds and Wily’s universe would cover 2 universes. but since we are dealing with arguments of infinite size universes with emeralds of infinite energy with an infinite multiverse with the Ultimate Annihilator stated to have touched every...
  3. ElixirBlue

    Archie Sonic Upgrades; 2-C base cast, Tons of new Abilities and more

    … hmm… is the base cast 2-C?
  4. ElixirBlue

    Archie Sonic Upgrades; 2-C base cast, Tons of new Abilities and more

    I mean, probably not unless there are more supporting 2-C arguments. Archie’s Low 2-C arguments off the top of my head are: Pre-Great Harmony Chaos Emerald scaling Infinite Energy for a single emerald Universe + creation Universe + durability Base Knuckles the Living Chaos Emerald reshaping a...
  5. ElixirBlue

    Archie Sonic Upgrades; 2-C base cast, Tons of new Abilities and more

    Sure, but even so, Dr. Robotnik specifically needs the Ore over all other material, ei Power Gems, Chaos Emeralds, to make the Ultimate Annihilator operational. It’s not explained why but Planet Mobius could have some special properties that allow that. And honestly, sometimes Eggman’s words...
  6. ElixirBlue

    Archie Sonic Upgrades; 2-C base cast, Tons of new Abilities and more

    I agree with Hax upgrades. Base abilities from 06 that not detailed by the encyclopedia should be a possibly rating, not an likely rating. No to the 2-C base argument. The argument hinges upscaling from Dr. Eggman, or rather Robo-Robotnik’s statement. However, Dr. Eggman never completed the...
  7. ElixirBlue

    Naugus scaling removal

    Its already on his profile that he is stronger in ZoS than in the Prime Zone, which is why he is listed as 2-C while in there. However, the Zone was already formed before Naugus went in to escape the Great War. Naugus couldn't have made it from within the Zone beforehand because the major plot...
  8. ElixirBlue

    Naugus scaling removal

    It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at Naugus’ page. His creation feat could be reworded. Naugus still fully created the Zone of Silence as we know it, if it was originally defined as “small” or “smaller”. The ZoS would be rediscovered by Dr. Robotnik, who self-noted to have been mistaken of the...
  9. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    What keeps it from being a "likely" rating?
  10. ElixirBlue

    Big Boy Al & Cal additions

    This looks good. I actually really like this and thought Al & Cal were already maxed out. I agree with everything except: Fire & Electricity Manipulation: Those just come off as effects to me. They wouldn’t be noteworthy. Spacial Manipulation: There just isn’t enough there for me to believe in...
  11. ElixirBlue

    Archie Knuckles Chaos Emerald scaling removal

    Honestly, Knuckles is likely lying to Sonic after everything settled down. This is during the period of the comic Sonic & Knuckles didn't trust each other. In the heat of the moment after Robotnik was gone, Knuckles tells Sonic he had a spare. Afterwards, when they weren't falling out of the...
  12. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    The Mammoth is using chaos energy but Mogul's chaos energy is coming from internally within himself from his fused chaos emerald, not externally. Power Rings provide additional energy so Mogul can remain materialized.
  13. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    What scan are you seeing that said heal? I don't see anything like that. I DO see Mogul reforming on his own before using his willpower to maintain himself and seek out Power Rings to stabilize. That's what is being shown on the scans.
  14. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    "Likely" would be more appropriate. There is another aspect of the Power Rings I forgot to mention earlier. After being freed from the Master Emerald, Mogul sought out the Power Rings to maintain himself. If Mogul was recovering from being in a state of "life essence", it would make sense to...
  15. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    Its been a little bit, so I'm worried about coming off as needlessly aggressive if its not called for it. :V
  16. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    Don't recall 'Protoplasm' being mentioned any where in Archie Sonic. Essence, twice, yes. Mentioned regenerating from essence in Archie Sonic, yes. Of course, pre-being absorbed by the Master Emerald. He had a physical form before the creation of the Master Emerald, then lost it, and after...
  17. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    Thank you for your response. :3 The ability is not shown as a reaction to damage (other than Knuckles regenerating from lave burns and Sonic the Hedgehog regenerating from beating by the Egg Beater) but reaction to destruction. The only other who is like Mammoth Mogul is Knuckles. Mogul merged...
  18. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    Regeneration wasn't meant to say a Base like Mogul could fully utilize the ability. It is for the Super Forms. First, regenerating from your essence isn't a foreign concept to the comic. Bringing it up here to get the "there is no way the writer meant it" argument out of the way. Vs...
  19. ElixirBlue

    Questionable Regeneration Chaos Energy (Archie-Comics)

    Writing something up right now, and voting is rushing the thread.
  20. ElixirBlue

    Catching Up To The Games: Archie Sonic Speed Upgrades + Low 2-C Post Genesis Wave

    I agree with infinite speed but there are more feats to include: 1. Sonic physically visiting practically every version of himself in the infinite Multiverse. Zonic was surprised he missed Underground. Sonic Super Special #10 2. Sonic and Dr. Robotnik fighting faster than Ultimate...
  21. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    Perhaps something in “Off Panel” could you form a logical thread to grab the “Super Dimensional” statement.
  22. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    It’s a statement that needs logic to apply to another, entirely different and separate continuity.
  23. ElixirBlue

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Really? Whats missing?
  24. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    And how would game statements apply to Archie if the Black Arms never invaded & Tails and Amy were gone from Archie SA2’s plot? We can’t find ourselves saying that every version of Sonic (SatAM, OVA, Paramount) is as strong as Game Sonic. If there is something in Archie that can allow us to use...
  25. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    I think I’m still lose on that. How does Archie get the “super dimensional” statement?
  26. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    The problem is, that won’t matter. The Black Arms invading the planet was integral to Shadow the Hedgehog (game) but never happened. Shadow the Hedgehog (game) is as canon as Sonic 06 in Archie. The Chaos gods of Archie never got mentioned to be involved with Solaris, so Solaris might not have...
  27. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    But it is guesswork, at the end of the day. The Cosmic Interstate is already guesswork enough but it’s far more reasonable because it doesn’t have the Neo Walkers or Ancient Walkers protecting it like the Chaos Force. It’s difficult to believe the Neo Walkers would need Super Sonic’s help in...
  28. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    Depends. Not every adaptations was approached the same way, like Sonic 3D Blast was good-old gag era special, Sonic Adventure’s Archie adaptation was based on the Japanese dub by guys who don’t know Japanese, or the Shadow the Hedgehog adaption, which was 1 issue that took place in Gerald’s...
  29. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    Honestly, I doubt we could pull it off. I considered the “Super Dimensional” line for Archie Solaris. But, the problem is that line was never spoken in any Archie related media or from a creditable source like Dr. Eggman. It’s possible Solaris to have 6D AP but not existence. Game canon can...
  30. ElixirBlue

    Archie Super Sonic vs Granblue Fantasy Captain

    Who scales higher in AP?
  31. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    It’s listed as immortality, not Regen. The description explicitly states he was affected and then transported.
  32. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Yeah… tho, for Archie, traveling out of such places is not a new concept. Robotnik has the ability to travel to the Void and back with his machines, and Sonic can walk into a space where color doesn’t exist and walk back out. I mean, a single Chaos Emerald does and I could go into an Archie Hax...
  33. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Why is Hearts faster?
  34. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Chaos Energy can transport people out of EE passively without Regenerating. There is no need to argue resistance. Solaris gets EE, gets transported back from Erased Existence, gets EE again, cycle continues unless something else happens.
  35. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Voting for Solaris then.
  36. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Because Sonic and Robotnik aren’t Regenerating nor Healing. They are being transported from Erased Existence to Existence through Chaos Energy. Because of how unstable Chaos Knuckles’ Chaos Energy usage is compare to Sonic’s 1 Billionth Ring, Robotnik’s molecules are too unstable to last for...
  37. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    “Its eyes opened across space and time and began to consume all as localized black holes.” The scan is on the profile in the AP section but admittedly is under Super Silver section instead of the 5-D section.
  38. ElixirBlue

    "Waves of Regenesis" (Archie Robotnik vs IDW Shockwave)

    Man, I would love to engaged with this match but the match would be removed after Archie Robotnik’s profile separation
  39. ElixirBlue

    "I've got your limit right here!" (Archie Super Form Revision)

    Bump
  40. ElixirBlue

    Gemerl Revision

    I agree
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