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  1. Robot972

    WAHOOOO! Mario Bros AP Revision/Upgrade! (M&L Brothership Spoilers)

    I'm still waiting for someone to calc the Toads towing the islands. Cause that being random fodder toads has the potential to scale to minions lol
  2. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Super Mario RPG? Mario & Luigi? Puzzles & Dragons? ****** Rabbids? The fact there are greater feats in games that take place later in the timeline is evidence enough I never said it wasn't origami power.
  3. Robot972

    i have an ability, let's come up with a weakness i can't bypass using it

    Every ability you wish for can only be used once, and then you lose the ability to use that ability and all sub-abilities of that ability ever again
  4. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    That's what I'm saying. I have no idea. The obvious answer is the Olivia hammer, but it doesn't explain how Mario without the use of any origami was able to cause massive damage to Olly in a cutscene Because... Mario beat Olly while he was at full power...? Olivia dealt the final blow, but...
  5. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    That was literally the whole point of the festival in Odyssey??? That’s unlikely to be the case since Olivia doesn’t mention the idea that they were already using it. But if that WAS the case, Universal Station of Legionary! Because Thousand Year Door’s level 1 would be equivalent to Paper...
  6. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Bump
  7. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Bump
  8. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Ah right I mean, as I pointed out, it’s not like this is the only wild acceleration in stats the man’s had. Bro jumped from wall level to at least city level after being in the Mushroom Kingdom for three games. (Ignoring the time travel fuckery) And here we’re talking about a 6 game gap (far...
  9. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    AD?
  10. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Overall Mario fighting Olly is always kinda weird cause he never really does anything that warrants a buff from Origami unlike Bowser and Olivia. And yet despite that we outright see him cause major damage to titan Olly in a cutscene before he gets the giant Olivia hammer Ya just kinda have to...
  11. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    The reason we were discussing Baby Mario is because I brought up having more tiers to show off Mario's evolution over the years, since every game regardless of point in the timeline is currently tied to Super Mario RPG tier-wise With the exception of Cranky Kong's lame ass
  12. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Bump
  13. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Bump
  14. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    What middleground would there be…? William can seize control of nearby hallucinations and make them act how he desires
  15. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Pre-Mushroom Kingdom meaning the time he spent in New Donk
  16. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    We were discussing how Mario should have more keys than a generic all-encompassing key, and I brought up how Mario should have one for Pre-Mushroom Kingdom
  17. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    The fact he is facing opponents with stronger feats implies his stats increased. And again, the current island level stats are from pre-Paper Mario 64 because the wiki refuses to acknowledge that both Paper and 3D Mario have better shit since then Okay? And that's an issue with the wiki, not...
  18. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    What, having separate keys for when notable increases in stats or abilities occur? Which is the whole point of having separate keys? I used the Volcarona feat as reference for a similar feat to show how much Mario changes between Donkey Kong Arcade and Super Mario World, which is a similar, if...
  19. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    No? Sister Location is when Michael decides to seek put his father
  20. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Bump
  21. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    On its own, I'd agree, but between the recent ITP game and the upcoming CYOA book which is a part of a series that's explicitly canon (Week Before is a god send istg), I think there's a stronger standing WWF is part of the Gumdrop Angel book in Fazbear Frights While yes, WWF specifically is...
  22. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    Starting from here for the rest of the book Scott considers anything official canon. The question of whether it’s the same timeline or not however is complicated because, again, Scott confirms nothing cause he’s a dick. Regardless. Given the post-Security Breach course-correcting Scott...
  23. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    While we never get an explicit statement (cause **** if Scott ever wants to confirm anything in this franchise), the entire plot of What We Found is that the phantoms are copying William’s own tricks Hudson does not start hallucinating the phantoms until William starts interacting with him, and...
  24. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    Care to explain then why Michael hallucinates while the ventilation systems are working perfectly?
  25. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    And the rest of my post addressed why William wouldn’t be kilometers away when Michael starts hallucinating. Because he’s not. Michael doesn’t start hallucinating until William is in the building
  26. Robot972

    William Afton CRT "I would rather pump myself full of toxic runoff."

    Why would he be kilometers away? The phantoms only appear after William shows up. Same as shown in What We Found. This same book also heavily implies they’re William’s doing through how they act
  27. Robot972

    Content Revision Promotion Thread

    Priority: 2, maybe 1.5 given how controversial Mario stats are on this wiki Verse: Mario Bros Description: The thread aims to buff the characters that appear in Origami King, putting most characters at Star Level but characters in the final fight against Olly at Universal
  28. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Bump
  29. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Frankly I stand by the opinion that we should have a key for Mario pre-Mushroom Kingdom We give anime characters 300 keys to mark their development, but we barely do the same for game characters Also, we currently have Wart scaling to events that happen well after SMB2
  30. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    I’d point to Kirby, which has separate keys for Pre Canvas Curse as well as Pre and Post Star Allies. I was editing the response a bunch to try and determine what I wanted to say, but at one point I did outright provide a proper comparison. So, for example, Volcarona can be used as a...
  31. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Quick bump
  32. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Also, considering the Island Level is pre-Paper Mario 64 tiering, that only further emphasizes that the gap is reasonable
  33. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    I don't really see the issue. It's not like this is the first time a non-leveled game introduces a drastically higher feat tier. Like, all we really need to look at is the difference between Mario pre-Mushroom Kingdom and post-Mushroom Kingdom to see the massive difference. Dude started off...
  34. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    My bad. Tried looking for the rules on that and couldn't find a hard number.
  35. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    This is probably good to add, but I'm gonna bump to see if we can get a few more agrees
  36. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    ngl forgot about this lmao Bump
  37. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    In the english dub, they just sorta appeared back in Flipside. Even Tippi was acting like it was the end of everything prior to the cut, so there's no real indication she saved anyone.
  38. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Gotcha. That's what I was guessing it would end up being, but I saw the feat while writing this and thought I'd bring it up
  39. Robot972

    Origami King Buffs

    Welp. If we're not going to rebuff the entire verse, might as well rebuff a handful of characters that have no excuse for their current stats... Getting through this quickly, there's two adjustments I think should be made. First off, the Legion of Stationary (which is currently just Hole Punch...
  40. Robot972

    Scaling MLP Characters and other details.

    Eh, I don't agree w Midnight Sparkle got her power from what magic was left behind by the singular Element of Magic, not the combined Elements. And even then, at no point does the series ever give an indication that the Element of Magic left behind a multi+ pool of magic in the human world...
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