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No.
Then what? GER says no. If GER doesn't say no. RTZ says no. Reminder, Gio isn't alone, nor is he even the issue, his Stand is, and his Stand has a mind of its own.
Gio doesn't even know he has these powers.
4D Power null. Mind control is nothing new to JoJo, whether it's Anubis, Dio's...
That's still a power.
We're talking about an ability that's stated to be able to negate anything in its setting, whether it's the simple act of moving five feet from where they stood or even the will behind an action, to even abstract powers like deleting time and the very universe...
As an aside, RTZ was able to kick in while both Gio and GER were momentarily deleted and didn't exist, restoring GER, just so he could talk shit.
She's gonna die infinite times forever across multiple worlds and time, all while she can't do anything, that's both incap, a win, AND bypasses her...
Ignoring the fact he isn't a japanese citizen despite what the OP says, he's an italian one, hell he owns italy.
No. Not only can GER heal Giorno from things like a caved in split open skull, but, no. RTZ is 4D causality manipulation, even if he was a japanese citizen, Makima's contract would...
I have been informed she only has 8-B dura. **** the toad. He can literally just beat her to death, dude one shots dudes who one shots High 8-C+'s, a billion blows to her head is gonna kill her. Like what's she gonna do? Take action?
Kinda sucks that Makima literally can't do anything, ever, unless GER actively wants her to. She isn't getting past 4D causality manip with multi range. Her contract isn't even helpful, the death loop also shifts her temporally and she never actually dies, she gets reset just before she dies, so...
The dude who can regen and is even stated to be able to continue attacking even as his flesh and bones get destroyed and cant feel pain?
You for real right now?
This isnt good enough, prove a forcefield can withstand trillions of blows by two dudes on par with Cell. Or in TW's case, just...
And there you go, that's why it wouldnt work. Theyre the same only in name, ignoring how vampires in jojo arent even conventional and are entirely biological, the mechanics on which it happens is completely different, unless Cell magically resists diseases and biomanip now. It'd work.
Uh, no...
And that isnt what Dio's does? It's a mix between disease manip, bio manip and technically life manip.
Dont forget btw dio can literally drain one's ki completely to amp himself and make them undead.
Why wouldnt it? He isnt a xenomorph. He just needs the extract to replace his life essence...
Dude, time stop, Dio can do anything he wants free, if he wants to do something, he can and will and Cell has no way to stop it.
Also theyre equal in stats, Cell's regen isnt so fast he cant be stabbed, we see him take some damage all the time.
Also youre forgetting he can turn Cell into a...
He has a Stand, he can just use TW to direct himself. Itd be cumbersome and unconventional but itd like, function, barely.
He'd lead with hax because he usually does? Dio doesnt start a fight by fighting, he has goals, he usually tries to make people his allies first. We're not only shown that...
How does Toei Cell get by flesh buds, zombie extract, and so on.
Having minor mind hax res doesnt mean much when Dio has three methods to inflict all with different mechanics. Cell only resists one. Plus TW has actual fear hax that's stated to exceed any other Stand in 6251 and works on those...
Yeah that's still F&G dude, just because it was shifted for convenience doesnt make it some rule.
Nobody has to abide by that if they get it accepted elsewhere. If I go make a CRT making Stands 3 layers, I dont have to touch that thread, ever.
Not that it matters because last I checked...
The OP to that very thread says it's just for fun. Staff utilizing it, doesnt mean it cant be accepted elsewhere? It's a convenience thing, not a rule. It just started as Fuji doing a funny.
I really dont think you looked dude
"Note: In order to see, touch or sense Stands, the character in question would need some form of enhanced Extrasensory Perception and enhanced Non-Physical Interaction, something above what ghosts can see, sense or touch. This is because not even ghosts or...
We have a Stand page.
Which definitely needs an overhaul and scans and stuff added, but it does say theyre layered there even if its halfassed, it is accepted.
Hell you could argue Stands have 3 layers with some newer info even but eh, thats definitely not mentioned on wiki.
Why wouldnt it work? In fact I dont think thats even true. They dont really explain how his brain works but it's obviously close enough to a human's given his sentience, behavior and cognition that without extra details, we have no reason to assume otherwise. Especially as his body is built off...
Flesh Buds. Hypnosis. Flash Freezing. Turning him into a zombie. Draining his life energy. Etc.
Dio has numerous ways to just skip fighting at all in stat equal. Like what's Cell gonna do when Dio stops time and implants spores into him making him his slave? Or just looking at him funny for...
It's one of the tanks you get later on.
https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/STOUT_IFV-FS
None of the tanks, or even weapons, in MGSV actually exist due to, unironically, copyright and branding.
but, every tank IS based off an actual irl equilavent, that tank in question is about 21-22 tons...
Don't spread misinfo at least.
I mean obviously I was talking about GE in particular? Why would I be talking about Bill?
The profile using the word inanimate object, in GE's case, has never once ever been a problem, as everyone who's read it understood, he can't turn living objects. The...
No he didn't, he turned his blood drops into ants that splattered when King Crimson blew his arm off. Which is what I mean, even there, it wasn't one whole object but a handful of drops of blood. The ants then ate the arrow, causing it to snap given the end of it is just wood, the special part...
I said he was a post-mortem Stand. He still manifests and demanifests? This isn't an argument, we know for a fact that's the case.
Yes it is? That's literally why damage transfers between them according to Standology.
Yuh huh, Anubis is one such case though. So the argument remains the same...
Do you think Star Platinum just chills inside Jotaro when he isn't out?
This isn't a counterpoint, it's just not understanding how Stands function. If you want to argue he must be bound to something, that's false, he'd probably demanifest, now, whether or not that affects him, or finally gets...
I never said it would. I'm saying he can do so, whether or not that enables him to win, isn't my concern/
Except Anubis isn't a thinking object, he's a Stand, bound to a sword. The sword isn't him, it's just a sword created by his original main body whom was a blacksmith.
It's no different...
For the record, Anubis should be fair game. The sword is still just a sword, he's bound to it, but not only is Anubis a post-mortem Stand like literally BIG, but Stands by themselves aren't fundamentally "alive" in a vacuum, Anubis being literally a Stand, that's already dead, bound to a...
Well, Gio can literally just turn him back to a sword. He can untransmutate stuff to be fair, something he can and has done multiple times.
Why wouldn't Gio turn it to like, a animal or something that he has control over.
Well, Anubis is the dude hitting him right? And Pol/Chaka/Khan isn't...
Yeah, this may as well be a completely different fight, Chaka is less skilled, fast, strong, and Gio has ore leeway now that he can like, live past being love tapped, meaning he can regen/heal.
Yeah uh, change it Chaka. Chaka dowscales from Chariot as opposed to upscaling, upscaling again, upscaling again, and scaling to Plat basically, who can one shot GE with a tap, so the gap, while Chaka prob still has the advantage, at least GE isnt gonna explode on contact. Gio's win cons way to...
Lad. Anubis Pol isn't = Chariot, he's almost Plat lv, and is well and beyond Chariot (Anubis Khan, was already was stronger than Chariot).
This is what a casual blow from dudes on that level do to GE.
Well the profile is dogshit because they explicitly do state that.
A bunch, in both the manga and every guide, I'm not sure why we should pretend otherwise.
As an aside, the gap between GE and Anubis Pol is like 28x. 42x post CRT. Dude just dies.
Gio is close to baseline 8-C, scales below Secco. SF can wind King Crimson, but SF itself is 8-C, it's just that he's high enough to catch King Crimson lacking. Which like, yeah, so could Chariot if given the chance, Diavolo himself even says this.
We're talking like the gap between Mike Tyson...
Novel Kars is in a bad spot because he needs a BUNCH of shit chaged, tweaked or flatout added.
But because he draws from every Part, a big CRT for him would need to come after the likes of basically everything else. Like he draws and has abilities that can only get added after Part's 1-7 all get...
Probably not.
Hamon and Stands, while being "life energy" aren't the same 'type' of life energy. The recent JoJo mag clarifies that Hamon is literally Chi, it's THAT type of life energy. While Stands, are referred to with stuff like seimei, so a more abstract, spiritual, type of life energy...
He worked for insurance, and then Jodio setting a school bus full of children on fire funny as just a lil prank, which due to who was on the bus, and the circumstanes, this lead to his fath accepting an exorbant insurance pay, which didn't go over well with the company and yadda yadda he got...
ok well tbf, Jotaro by this point was MFTL. Josuke was MHS+ based on his own feats, MFTL while enraged (he'd be rel in a few more weeks tho), Gio was MHS, Jolyne was Hypersonic+, i fruget what johnny would be at about 2y in, he might actually be dogass till Act 2 which was about ch40ish, Part 9...