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  1. Delta333

    Arata's abilities revision

    The "Greater" part exists because his Great Demon Lord key has the same abilities in the previous key but they're abilities of his version in lower dimension.
  2. Delta333

    Arata's abilities revision

    What is pfp? Also I don't forget other characters, but their profiles are too outdated that I can't update them all in the same thread as staff members will not have time to read everything.
  3. Delta333

    Arata's abilities revision

    I have changed to type 2 since either option is fine for me.
  4. Delta333

    Arata's abilities revision

    Since waiting for Ultima to evaluate the cosmology thread is too long I think I will revise and update Arata's P&A section out of boredom instead. Candidate Demon Lord Transformation: Can transform to Magus mode. Enhanced Senses: Those who possess the amount of magic power that's the same as...
  5. Delta333

    Yogiri's Wanky resistance to Summoning

    The scan in that link even says that "He could summon Yogiri" so I don't know what's needed to debate at all. Agree.
  6. Delta333

    Meta narrative and Plot Manipulation for Ben 10

    Tbh you should remove that statement from OP so that people can’t nitpick, it doesn’t support anything anyways.
  7. Delta333

    Trinity Seven upgrade

    Yeah and Ultima also said the same thing in another 1-A thread, that is being able to reach higher qualititative layer through elightenment is just the "innate metaphysical potential", so it's not an anti-feat at all.
  8. Delta333

    Trinity Seven upgrade

    Only if higher dimensions are spatial axes, here higher dimension refers to a higher realm or higher world, it is a place, not an axis.
  9. Delta333

    Trinity Seven upgrade

    I add that too with raw scan.
  10. Delta333

    Twin Star Exorcists: Spiritual Power Nature

    Hard disagree with infor type 2 too.
  11. Delta333

    Dragon Talisman - Upgrade to High 1-A

    I mean among High 1-As in our wiki actually but yea you’re right.
  12. Delta333

    Dragon Talisman - Upgrade to High 1-A

    He scales to the highest possible High 1-A cosmology but still not High 1-A+, as weird as it may sound to be.
  13. Delta333

    Ben 10 Cosmology: High 1-B upgrade

    Seems like the upgrade side is no longer able to make more arguments so I agree with Ultima too unless there is something new.
  14. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    That's too much assumptions imo, same as the Tao one.
  15. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

  16. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Her godhead story, this one can be read even before her favourability reaches 10. The scan you sent doesn't say that he created all Greek gods, and the story of Chronos doesn't say she is the oldest in the universe. Again, which part says "birth of all gods? Why does "birth of gods" randomly...
  17. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Send the scan then because for now nothing proves that Chronos doesn't predate her.
  18. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    My reason is more about the fact that everyone in Babylon called her mother of all things actually, but now I focus more on the anti feats about Chronos and God of War.
  19. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Blue and white has been removed from our wiki and it’s already banned right?
  20. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    They’re depowered but not to the point losing all of powers, it’s simple as that. It literally said “In Babylon”, so to say she isn’t there is wrong.
  21. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Those who're outside of Babylon are not under the influence of faith until they arrive in this realm (read the Divine Comedy story). Outer Gods may greatly affect the Babylon but they still live there regardless (Azathoth always sleeps there and The Mother is literally called "Babylon mother"...
  22. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Yea I know that such assumption could be argued, which is why previously I have talked about how Babylon god can summon their true form to this place if it's necessary to defeat others. So the power scaling should include their true forms already.
  23. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    They never said anything about other branches actually, beside all you have proved just simply "Yog-Sothoth is not in K school building" and not "Yog-Sothoth is not in Babylon". If Babylon has yin and yang then that simply results in anti-feat for Yog-Sothoth to be Tao, I don't ignore anything...
  24. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    It’s simple, students of K school building do come here but they’re all afraid of Azathoth thus they leave and only her remain here. So the scaling still works. And if Yog-Sothoth also doesn’t live here then she’s afraid of Azathoth too ig.
  25. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    I will put the part that needs translation for later. The scan you send doesn’t say anything about her predating all other gods, what is the reason that makes “birth of gods” including Chronos? It just means she comes from her world to the K school building, it’s simple as that. That’s...
  26. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    "Outer gods" is what we get from human translation but that doesn't matter much if the context here just talks about Outer God in general rather than a specific being. Beside saying Outer Gods is fan-made concept that's mentioned only in The Mother story is outright incorrect. I never said...
  27. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    After discussing with my friend there seems to be more doubt than I actually thought (aside from two problems about those who can enter her realm and those who can possess her apophatic nature, which Ultima will decide later). First there is another outer god called "The Mother", who is...
  28. Delta333

    Dragon Talisman - Upgrade to High 1-A

    Not a tier 0 character but his feat sounds more impressive than all others in the wiki.
  29. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Based on what Ultima said it seems that transcending the description and definition that frame all the boundaries does make Yog-Sothoth tier 0 rather than just the Tao stuff alone, so to say that non-tier 0 characters can have it does not make much sense, but I will wait for Ultima to clarify...
  30. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    You said “indicating neither of them is of the same nature as Yog-Sothoth” so I thought that’s what you mean. I will explain it again. The entire statement “The only way to define the boundaries is to transcend them, and because we are free from all things, we can create all things, and so all...
  31. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Whether those who possess her powers are on the same level as her or not doesn’t make any difference because what people in this thread do is “to upscale Yog Sothoth from those who she grants powers to”. So, if those prayers are not tier 0 then that will result in she is not as well, but if...
  32. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    It doesn’t refer to everyone in verse, but the person who enter her realm thus gaining the control over all things. Anyways the entry 5 is fairly short so I recommend you to read it entirely yourself. https://hoyodex.miraheze.org/wiki/Yog-Sothoth_(Outer)/Kizuna Hello. Congratulations on...
  33. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    The realm in the entry 5 (where people can enter) was never stated to be her avatar realm or true form realm, but considering the fact that it's described as being outside of space-time, it's must refer to the true form. The statement "The Gods who live beyond the space-time of the Universe have...
  34. Delta333

    GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

    Entry 5 doesn’t say anything about she grants them the capability to enter her realm tho that’s assumption at best, but I think that’s less the main problem because the problem here is that one cannot exist on the same realm/place as a tier 0, even with a tier 0 grant them that power (this is...
  35. Delta333

    (Gurren Lagann 1-A/ H1-A+ upgrade) Don’t believe in yourself. Believe in the upgrade that believes in you!

    I agree with this tbh.
  36. Delta333

    Dr strange vs Dracula (grace)

    Is Strange's informational attack passive? Drac has passive concept and plot manipulation so he may kill Strange first.
  37. Delta333

    Most Ridiculous, Out of Context Panels and Screenshots - New Forum edition

  38. Delta333

    Re:Creators CRT #2

    Because a piece of fiction being parallel world alone does not make it 4-D unless its existence is equal to another 4-D structure, which is the Real World in this case. Once you tried to prove that the Real World transcends the fiction, there’s no longer any basis to assume that the fiction is...
  39. Delta333

    Aeons immeasurable speed remove. (Need staff)

    seems redundant
  40. Delta333

    Aeons immeasurable speed remove. (Need staff)

    Yea individual Aeon in our wiki is treated like composite versions of all Aeons instead tbh. Time-based ability is straight up the authority of Finality alone.
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