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Well, I don't care too much about tier changes as long as they're reasonable with what we've seen Adepts do, I won't give a vote, just saying that while it's shakey, I don't mind if this is the case
As part of the GV community here, I have to say that this is pretty shaky in my honest opinion since there's no concrete evidence that this is the case. However, it is also grounded.
There are several times in the games where the speed of the characters doesn't make sense if they travel at a...
Okay, here's what I got for Standard Tactics
While it's quite vague how he fights due to the lack of information and a boss fight that doesn't abuse overpowered abilities to decrease difficulty, Gunvolt's standard approach to combat can be determined based on the games' basic combat flow and...
My guy Zoro, if you need help with it just let us know. I recommend just playing with the games first though. A lot of the background lore and some feats do come from Drama CDs, Dangeki Profiles, and others, but Sidier's Youtube Channel basically has everything you need in terms of that.
Gunvolt primarily dodges over using Flashfield as seen in the OVA, he'd probably only use Flashfield defensively if he has to, as he never used it that way in his Boss Fight
There is only one small instance where GV fights. In the Acura Chapter, the CD starts off at GV vs Copen in GV1, where we find one minor point, that GV seems somewhat adaptive and he has no problem dodging Greed Snatcher, without much trouble (combined with how he fights in the OVA, he makes an...
I consider Prevasion Spam to be game mechanics, but it's pretty reasonable that Gunvolt would want to keep his EP up at all times (which is what he does, using split second and recharge before and after flashfield), whether its for Prevasion is unknown. At the same time, him just letting...
Oh wait, right, Fusion Sword doesn't have Materia slots- I don't think Cloud used ANY Materia in Advent. Yeah, if that's the case, along with the apparent AP Advantage.... uh, yikes
Looks cool. I also have a question for profiles
Should we put in a Fighting Tactics section, since we have boss battles for both GV and Copen? However, I'm not quite sure if that's accurate to how they would actually fight, such as simply just letting Prevasion go out because otherwise it'd be...
The first one seems somewhat possible I guess- Star Dragon is indeed on a higher altitude than Firmament, so we can use the final battle as a reference ig?
Jota should be FTL already tho in a way, tho its a claim, he manages to dodge gibril's attacks and then go "impressive but im better"
Played through GV1 again
I recall Smashor saying that it took place in one night. That isn't possible according to Matt Papa's translation.
At the end of the first mission, GV picks up Joule and goes freelancer, for half a year, until the events of the rest of the game. By the end of the game...
Hm, also Smashor, I guess you can give it a try, but don't think I'm going to have your back since I'm not confident about this despite evidence pointing to such
Also Sub Rel really only works for Ghauri, what would everyone else have?
Speed of Light in everything. It's all real laser and photons, stated in the Dangeki Profiles, which are indeed official and completely legitimate. At the current moment I have all translations with me. Further evidence is that Copen's Border II is directly inspired by his Septima, and was only...
It feels really shaky though, it really can be just... him moving at light speed all the time. Idk. It just feels like a very shaky argument, just like Demerzel's Energy Conversion.
Also got Gunvolt on Switch, maybe i can do something with it
Actually as much as I don't feel like this is super solid stuff, there argument is reasonable. Viper's fighting style, I'm not quite sure, but this lines up with the fact that characters can't travel instantaneously from place to place with their speed, otherwise, they wouldn't need various...
Seems like game mechanics to me. It's likely all tied to his Stamina. I've already said before that it would come to that Iit was a healing battle. But with Time stuff, and defense boosts, he can pull it off.
Also Finishing Touch exists, since Meta is a close range guy, that's very deadly to...
Its basically just Meta bringing in his minions, nothing special. Cloud can likely summon the Knights of the Round to even the playing field, add in a couple Bahamuts too.
Healing has already been covered with my initial arguments. Summoning, not quite sure on that one, but speed amps don't really mean a thing against Cloud's Time Manipulation
Why does this not work against bosses if it's so powerful, by the way? I'm still fairly sure that Meta would use all of his combat oriented tricks first before resorting to a Friend Heart, since he seems to be the combat type, instead of the friend focused happy go lucky Kirby.
But even if we...
Even if they aren't, I'm pretty sure Cloud wouldn't just let himself get hit by it. Dude is taking out a pink heart, holding it over his head, before throwing it at the guy. That should set off a lot of red flags of "I better avoid this", plus he can't really do that in time stop either... Also...
Oh, okay. Well, if Meta is Borderline Galaxy level then it'd be even with Cloud's Galaxy Level right?
I've already explained that Cloud Negates that Regen since he... Well, has Regen Negation up to Mid G
Friend Hearts are Resisted anyways too
Alright, I think I got a decent grasp, gonna make some assumptions throughout this argument but whatever, it'll be clarified to me at some point. I don't know too much about Kirby since I only played Super Star Ultra and Star Allies.
First thing we got is that Meta Knight's Regeneration won't...
Same
I'm tempted to say that Cloud does have an edge due to healing materia, but I'll get to this later... Wait he has heal too...
PreStar Allies? Standard Equipment or everything?
Ed suggested it so here I go
The End, an area where many players have visited. For Technoblade, it was simply just another time to defeat the Ender Dragon once more. With plenty of gear, his best gear, this was going to be just another walk in the park-
...Where are the Ender Crystals...
Oh that, yes, I forgot. I think that's only referring to their effects, not the actual force behind them. Milas should be able to disable his equipment, but he can't, same with Teseo's abilities which should be perfect for the job, but that the armor itself deflects attacks from the attacks that...
Durability Factor? I'm not voting for anything but, Valev has Kiri, which combined with Time Stop, clones, and her speed based abilities, can stack its effect to lower the durability exponentially. If I recall, it's the same for armor enchantments to, but it can also break weapons like whatever...
Okay, so this is what we have so far, its nothing new, but it's there for confirmation
Movement and Character Flow
Movementwise, Kirin plays exactly how Gunvolt would, with the continuous dash, etc. However, her swordplay is like Zero's, specifically like from X4, this means a triple slash...
I meant when we do get the info, also, it's technically today for us since it's on the other side of the planet, I've been looking forward to it, I'll give information when it's over
Also Mav, you missed a lot my man, a lot of lore will slip right past you if you just play the games, though...
I'm late but, didn't Kaiba make Duel Academy? I vaguely recall that being a thing.
If this is the case, then of course the order would be Obelisk (because he favors and likes it), Ra, and then Slifer (because he dislikes Yugi)
But if cards are modified, why would they give Obelisk infinite force and keep the whole Not Affected by Anything trait even though it's likely game breaking? And the same goes with the Divine Serpent and other legendary like cards
(I guess it doesn't break the game in today's meta, but back...
Like, hm, how do I say it
That means that ET has a reason for negating an attack, because its origins likely involve ET actually having that ability when it was a real thing. The cards are based on the real thing, so... yeah
Same should apply for like, Obelisk right? Why would they make...
But it's pretty likely that the cards are based off the real thing as explained in my thingie above. They aren't just making shit up, I think. The effect of the card would be something like
"Negate the Attack"
While the actual variant would be (as explained)
"Negate the attack via electrode...
Hm, most of the time from what I remember from the anime, there is correlation to the monsters having effects from their origin. At least there's an explaination correlating to what the monster is
For example, I recall Yugi vs Kaiba Battle City, when Yugi utilized Electromagnetic Turtle. The...
I do want these things to happen but like, wouldn't that be game mechanics?
Any child could just scratch out the ATK points on a card and replace it with infinity.
BBT Scaling seems good if it's really canon, but then again, them being equal to recent cards are just because attack points...
Should we make Human form Asimov one section when I get around to him?
I think that the human form Asimov should be able to do the same exact things as his Hologram counterpart, considering the weapons he uses.
We're not going through this again my g, that was settled in the CRT. The 9-A feats were effortless, and if you somehow manage to succeed in the current feat down, we can just pull an unknown like over here, since again, we have a featless verse save for feats that can't really be measured, just...
Also another note, Utashinai is 55.99 km, apparently the smallest city in Japan, so if we calc that for Tenjian's feet for the absolute minimum lowball, we'd know just how far it can go down.
Hm, seems like a good idea, go for it, should be easy
Should you need to change the verse page more with more additions to the terminology, go ahead, I made changes to that too, I was hoping we could add pictures of sumeragi and stuff but idk
Okay so the CRT is basically done, I'm just working on page quality now, and that seems like an appropriate thing for this thread as it has nothing to do with powers and stats. The type of quality changes I'm attempting to make can already be seen in Blade and Tenjian's files, as well as...
Hm, you do have a point...
EP is actually in canon, and it stands for Electro Psycho energy, or something. I do get that it probably still is walking on thin ice with the game mechanics thing
However I think I still holds its merit to being key to put in his profile, because of what it...
Alright cool, just so you know, I basically mean, help make gifs by recording footage. As for what we need, we'll focus on Gunvolt for now
For Gunvolt, we'd need mainly his support skills and what they do, with comparisons (I would prefer skills that debuted in GV1 to be done in GV1 but that's...
Does anyone have a capture card or some way of recording on your console? If so, we can do some more gifs with Gunvolt. (Such as comparing the damage values before and after Septimal Shield). If I recall, the Switch does have a recording function by pressing and holding the screenshot button, I...
Okay, I didn't fix the water marks yet but I'll get it done at some point, for now, I have everything on GV, except some things that I'll have to rely on Sleepy for.
I just want to move on to give everyone an update
Im going to start working on Blade's profile/gifs
The gifs are still going to have the imgflip watermarks, but as I said before, I rather have something rather than nothing until we get a better solution. When we do, I already put where I found each clip in the file's description, so we can...
Oh that.
That is a direct translation of the Dangeki magazine profile of Milas.
These magazines are made directly from the creators themselves, and every character has one
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704504191929942147/771531620762386432/NikeProfile1.png
This is Desna's for...
It can be used for basically any other AP feat or whatever if we need it, can't think of any examples right now. But knowing where the main city is would be pretty important in the setting.
Also, the maps are legit. Datastore and Data Stage Alpha are the same stage, and are indeed the same...
Bruh
Also I just noticed every game has a country map on it, we can determine where the frozen city is and possibly compare it to real life, like, the outline of the map to Japan or something. Idk.
What we have gets the point across, and it's already better than just text in my opinion, we could just continue like this until we find a better way around it
How did you get the gifs for Astrasphere, Luxcaliber, and Voltaic? Same site? If so, how did you crop it?
It indeed can be dodged, and thx I'll check the gif maker out... I'm just ridiculously lazy rn since I had to parse through like, a million damn videos to find those.
Smashor just go to the gif descriptions, that's where I found em on YouTube
I recall Azure Striker does indeed increase physical attributes, makes sense. Copen actually attacks with the gun itself, the bottom of the barrel to inflict tags
Also, why does Joule have Causality Manipulation again? Bad Ending thingie? Why isn't that Time Manipulation instead?
I'd say it'd at least make sense for Septimal Shield I guess, but this is really all non important stuff. (Also Septimal Shield is an actual lifesaver I tell you, Doppler Destroyer would still be kicking my ass to this day if not for it.
I'm going to be adding gifs soon to GV's page and start...
Also, this is sort of a stupid question, but, should certain characters be rated "Higher" with their Skills?
For example, Gunvolt's Luxcaliber does significantly more damage than the rest of his attacks. I'm pretty sure that's not justifiable for it however. But things such as Septimal Surge...
"It’s a 7th Wave (Sevens) that can instantly freeze anything.
When using it along the Copy “Sword”, this Ability only froze the ground that GV and Acura were standing at"
By "freeze anything", that means he has to be freezing something, he's not creating it. In that case, where do his blades...
Seems like the the calc already covered that. I traced through the steps and I don't think it's calculating the air freezing, just the floor. I think it should stand, because tbh, I don't think there's a better way to calc this as of yet
Well, I think the outlier talk is done, we're discussing about how to go about the freeze calc since we used Nitrogen, and we aren't sure if we did it right or not
Hm, that's true huh, but he froze a city, meaning that he'd be outside right? It certainly LOOKS like he's freezing the air in certain attacks, like for Frigid Blossom and Seven Slashes, plus, he makes giant ice constructs when doing those attacks too seemingly out of nowhere.
But the ground is...
Well, there definitely isn't any water in the stage so... probably freezing the air? But then he's freezing the city, and we don't know what the city is made of so idk
Yes, it's kind of weird, but it does indeed make sense at the same time
First off, we should go over the fact that Sumeragi's Weaponizing Grimores do indeed enhance a Septima... I think, and the one Tenjian used was simply not as good as the original.
If you didn't play LAiX, I'll fill you in...
I don't think his profile said that he can freeze cities without the shard:
"When using it along the Copy “Sword”, this Ability only froze the ground that GV and Acura were standing at (but it should also be noted it was also due to the lack of need to deploy it at a larger scale) but once it’s...