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Bobsican
Bobsican
Not really.
Fireld
Fireld
Is this the response for just the 2nd point or both?
Bobsican
Bobsican
The second point, feel free to mention what you think over the scaling
Fireld
Fireld
Ok.
Some evidence from the Hercules cartoon series(which the Disney profiles use a few feats from)
In Hercules and the Secret Weapon it was said that Zeus' lightning said to be the strongest weapon in Olympus(Hades and Ares have shown to fear it).
In Hercules and the River Styx, Hades used some chains to restrict Poseidon and Athena(keep in mind gods can teleport in the show)
In Hercules and the Owl of Athens simular chains were used on Athena & Ares and were said by Ares kids(who had intelligence boost at the time)that they were made to bind gods.
In Hercules and the Prometheus Affair, Hercules(despite depicted as weaker than the later throughout the episode) realesed him with his chains with just his brute force.
In Hercules and the All Nighter, it was said that gods are naturally stronger than demigods as Hercules couldn't even remove the besheet from a sleeping Morpheus.
(I will have to later double check as it has been some time since I haven't watched the episodes in awhile and haven't finished the series yet)
In Hercules and the Return of Typhon, Hercules accidently releases Typhon from Mt Etna. It was revealed in the end of the episode, Hera annoyed Typhon by shooting a lightning bolt at his nose, giving Zeus enough time to use all of his power to throw Mt Etna at him(He probably did some magical seal, seeing how moving a mountain is small feat compared to the other physical feats he has)
Some evidence from the Movie
Hercules releases the gods from their chains in a few sword slashes(Phif's equipment has been shown to be nowhere near as tough as Herc many times in the movie, including the sword).
Hades breaks Zeus lightning cage(despite being shown inferior to Zeus, be it the series where extinguish Hades' entire head with a casual breath or in the movie where even baby herc accidently broke Hades finger). Keep in mind the lightning coveres just enterance of the underwater cave their in. When the cage is broken they just make a bigger hole somewhere else with a puch each(minus the Cyclop)
My train of through
When the Ice and Magma form a rock formation around Zeus they could have used some type of sealing too. The previous examples show that its more powerful to the people they are trapping and more vournable from the outside, since they can be broken from weaker people.
Bobsican
Bobsican
I would avoid to use the original canon for purposes in KH, as that's extremely scrutinized.
Fireld
Fireld
Alright, it could still work for the Disney version. I think I heard you once confused about the movie too?
Bobsican
Bobsican
Yeah, as there's statements over how KH bases stuff on the respective movie they bring in.
But as there's stuff blatantly changed from the original, most notably with Wonderland being real and not just a "dream", it's better to rely on feats that happens only within KH itself.
Fireld
Fireld
Already agreed on that(not using the movies for scaling KH). Is it just me or was that world disappointing?
Bobsican
Bobsican
Which? Olympus has appeared in every single game for some reason, and while it didn't deviate much from the original movie, it still seemed quite fitting as a place for the cast to develop character-wise, rather than just slapping the cast in with a minor excuse, and the cast basically being left way too separate from the "movie plot" to relate the two (Cough, Arendelle, cough).

Wonderland is a pretty meh world, but there wasn't much to explore in that one anyways beyond the riddles of Chesire Cat, especially in 358/2 Days.
Fireld
Fireld
Ah, so you meant just not counting the tv series for Hercules. Explains why I liked the stories in that world. So, have you checked the japanese version(just curious if Hades' lines are that good in that version too). I'm confused on one thing: Doesn't the narrator in KH3 imply that Hades realesed the Titans pretty recently? And in previous games Herc sends the stone Titan flying(like a shooting star) and Aqua destroyed the Ice Titan.

A pity considering all the interesting places in that movie
Bobsican
Bobsican
Yeah, the TV series seems to only be going to be touched after KHIII with the whole "Pandora's Box" stuff being found by Pete and Maleficent, then just left there, and far more than the coliseum itself is explorable in BbS, KHII and (Especially) KHIII, so don't think just the coliseum was explored by the main cast this whole time.

Anyways, yeah, it seems that they were freed in an attemp to end Hercules back in the coliseum itself, but it didn't fare too well and all, it was a decent derailment from the original movie, even if it leaves some questions now that I think about it, and as for the japanese version of the statement, well, the japanese cutscenes are all up in YouTube, but I can't really just constantly ask someone that's not into the series to translate it, although support on that would be nice if possible.
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