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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

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Seems the Maul comics got got
That's strange, it's working for me. Try a VPN.

If it doesn't work, I'll send it on Discord.
 
Besides the comics I don't have access to, Maul should be easy. Shadow Lord only really has "Still superior to Jedi Masters, and lasts better against Vader than the Grand Inquisitor does" And then there's Rebels, where Maul's main scaling is that he's comparable to Old Ben and superior to inqusitors. Clone Wars is the problem child because that's an entire series of comics I gotta go through.
I'm going to make a gallery of both, I'll put it on Imgur because you can't just copy and paste an image using Chest, I have to download the image.
KK, I'll take what I need and do it to imgchest then.
 
Besides the comics I don't have access to, Maul should be easy. Shadow Lord only really has "Still superior to Jedi Masters, and lasts better against Vader than the Grand Inquisitor does" And then there's Rebels, where Maul's main scaling is that he's comparable to Old Ben and superior to inqusitors. Clone Wars is the problem child because that's an entire series of comics I gotta go through.

KK, I'll take what I need and do it to imgchest then.
Done.

Darth Maul scans

Savage scans

Note: Since there are dozens of books and thousands of pages, I focused on the parts that focused on each character + some extra information I remembered + interesting things I found along the way.

In the Maul scans you will see a part in Spanish (the book was first released in Spanish), just put the scans into an AI (GPT) and ask it to translate.
 
Done.

Darth Maul scans

Savage scans

Note: Since there are dozens of books and thousands of pages, I focused on the parts that focused on each character + some extra information I remembered + interesting things I found along the way.

In the Maul scans you will see a part in Spanish (the book was first released in Spanish), just put the scans into an AI (GPT) and ask it to translate.
Wow the only thing from Savage that goes beyond stating the obvious is that he can duel multiple jedi and is a master of lightsaber combat lmfao. Also can't use the GPT scans, so I'll probably ignore them.
 
Wow the only thing from Savage that goes beyond stating the obvious is that he can duel multiple jedi and is a master of lightsaber combat lmfao. Also can't use the GPT scans, so I'll probably ignore them.
Just drag and drop the images onto some AI and ask it to translate.

Are you having trouble copying them, or is there a problem with GPT?

I sent the comic link to your Discord DM.
 
Just drag and drop the images onto some AI and ask it to translate.

Are you having trouble copying them, or is there a problem with GPT?
I can't use machine translation on a profile. It be against the rules. As it stands, I'm finishing up the final touches on Savage, which will include a proper standard tactics section.
 
I can't use machine translation on a profile. It be against the rules.
Spanish isn't that complicated, just say you used AI for translation, and then say that the scans and the language are there for anyone to check for themselves.

I don't think anyone will mind.

If you still have problems, I can check the AI translation for you myself; Spanish is close enough to Portuguese for me to verify if it's correct.
 
Finished with him, now all I have to do before the CRT drops is Qui-Gon.
Regarding the nightsister magic, we don't know how much he learned, if he had standard training.

You can leave it like that.

Force sensitive
  • Magic (Explored the magical teachings of the Nightsisters and learned several Force techniques that he had not known as a Sith)
    • Illusion and Mind hax (One of these abilities involved drawing upon a Force connection that had been formed with Ezra Bridger when the two united the holocrons. Maul was able to appear before Ezra as though he were physically present in the same room and extracted information from the young Jedi's mind, including the location of the secret rebel base on Atollon, where the rebels were hiding)

I didn't understand why you portrayed him as weaker in Shadow Lord and stronger in Rebels.

In Shadow Lord, the only thing I remember is Witwer saying that Maul was weakened because of the damage to his leg.

And in Rebels, well, we have all these statements.
 
Regarding the nightsister magic, we don't know how much he learned, if he had standard training.

You can leave it like that.

Force sensitive
  • Magic (Explored the magical teachings of the Nightsisters and learned several Force techniques that he had not known as a Sith)
    • Illusion and Mind hax (One of these abilities involved drawing upon a Force connection that had been formed with Ezra Bridger when the two united the holocrons. Maul was able to appear before Ezra as though he were physically present in the same room and extracted information from the young Jedi's mind, including the location of the secret rebel base on Atollon, where the rebels were hiding)

I didn't understand why you portrayed him as weaker in Shadow Lord and stronger in Rebels.

In Shadow Lord, the only thing I remember is Witwer saying that Maul was weakened because of the damage to his leg.

And in Rebels, well, we have all these statements.
In Shadow Lord, he can fight two Inquisitors at once but has problems. In Rebels he can enter a 3v1 with a smile while casual and needs no aid.
 
In Shadow Lord, he can fight two Inquisitors at once but has problems. In Rebels he can enter a 3v1 with a smile while casual and needs no aid.
Not all Iquisitors have equal power. There is still a power scale among them.

Marrok, for example, is very strong.
 
Not all Iquisitors have equal power. There is still a power scale among them.

Marrok, for example, is very strong.
They're all relatively comparably dogshit compared to actual named characters who haven't been out of combat for like 5 years straight(Ventress)
 
They're all relatively comparably dogshit compared to actual named characters who haven't been out of combat for like 5 years straight(Ventress)
But do we have statements about that? It would be like saying that all Jedi are comparable to each other.

The fifth brother and seventh sister don't have a very good scale considering that Ezra can defend himself well against them.

To tell the truth, the fifth brother isn't very skilled with lightsabers.

The eighth brother is stated to not have advanced Force powers.

Marrok, for example, is evenly matched with Ahsoka in her series, and is a really strong guy.
 
But do we have statements about that? It would be like saying that all Jedi are comparable to each other.
There's a general level expected of an Inquisitor, since they're trained to be stronger and whatnot. Most of em tend to be former Jedi Knights, so they're like, around Padawan Obi-Wan tier.
The fifth brother and seventh sister don't have a very good scale considering that Ezra can defend himself well against them.

To tell the truth, the fifth brother isn't very skilled with lightsabers.
So he's just not very skilled, he can still be strong, just look at Savage.
The eighth brother is stated to not have advanced Force powers.
Savage also doesn't have advanced Force powers, and look how he turned out.
Marrok, for example, is evenly matched with Ahsoka in her series,
Which is directly via "Lightsaber prowess". How do you think Obi-Wan can fight Savage despite Savage being able to ragdoll him? Skill.
He can also fight a Jedi Master... Like most Inquisitors can fight Masters.
 
Also I love how my answer to most of the problems with Inquisitors is "Savage is like, a mid-tier lightsaber combatant and can only lift like one tenth of the shit Dooku can, yet can ragdoll ******* on that level."
 
Didn't Sam Witwer state that Marrok was stronger prior to being resurrected? I wonder if that will get expanded on later.
 
There's a general level expected of an Inquisitor, since they're trained to be stronger and whatnot. Most of em tend to be former Jedi Knights, so they're like, around Padawan Obi-Wan tier.

So he's just not very skilled, he can still be strong, just look at Savage.

Savage also doesn't have advanced Force powers, and look how he turned out.

Which is directly via "Lightsaber prowess". How do you think Obi-Wan can fight Savage despite Savage being able to ragdoll him? Skill.

He can also fight a Jedi Master... Like most Inquisitors can fight Masters.
And not all Jedi Knights are comparable to each other; some are strong, and others are at the Jedi Master level, which varies greatly.

Savage is a master of lightsaber combat. He is also always said to be powerful overall, as well as having a greater connection to the Force and being strong on the Dark Side. He is declared strong in both senses.

And? It's just Marrok showing how good he is at lightsaber combat, good enough to match Ahsoka. Meanwhile, on Malachor, one of the three Inquisitors is said to be not very skilled with a lightsaber, and the other to lack strong Force powers. Marrok is well above those 3.

The question for Sam is that he said Maul is better than the Inquisitors but loses to Marrok. The answer is that Marrok is much tougher. Which, along with other things, puts him on a higher level than most Inquisitors.
 
And not all Jedi Knights are comparable to each other; some are strong, and others are at the Jedi Master level, which varies greatly.

Savage is a master of lightsaber combat.
Which is why when faced with actual masters, he needs to rely on brute force? "Master of Lightsaber Combat" does not necessarily mean he's some high-tier god with his lightsaber. It just means he knows what he's doing and anyone who hasn't been trained properly/isn't a notable named character is getting bulldozed.
He is also always said to be powerful overall, as well as having a greater connection to the Force and being strong on the Dark Side. He is declared strong in both senses.
Except for when, in a shocking revelation, he's not shown to be very skilled in using the force. In fact, the direct opposite is shown, look at Dooku training Savage. I just watched every episode Savage appeared in yesterday, my memory is not so shitty that I suddenly forget things like that.
And? It's just Marrok showing how good he is at lightsaber combat, good enough to match Ahsoka. Meanwhile, on Malachor, one of the three Inquisitors is said to be not very skilled with a lightsaber, and the other to lack strong Force powers. Marrok is well above those 3.

The question for Sam is that he said Maul is better than the Inquisitors but loses to Marrok. The answer is that Marrok is much tougher. Which, along with other things, puts him on a higher level than most Inquisitors.
The 3 Inquisitors also clashed lightsabers with Ahsoka and fought her for awhile. Yeah Marrok is tougher, but Maul has been out of practice in lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat for years by the time of Shadow Lord. What's a few more years between that and Rebels?
 
I must say that I find it unfair that Qui-Gon is stuck below the fodder that Maul is.

Should I blame George Lucas or Disney?
 
Maul is very stupid; back in the Mandalore era, he could have found a way to coat his mechanical legs with Beskar.
 
I must say that I find it unfair that Qui-Gon is stuck below the fodder that Maul is.

Should I blame George Lucas or Disney?
George Lucas... but it's not a bad thing that Qui-Gon isn't the strongest, the guy never wanted to be seen as such.
 
For the record: Due to Ventress appearing in Bad batch and Tales of the Empire, I'm considering Dark Disciple too retconned to be used. So don't expect anything from the novel in Dooku's profile.
 
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