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Honkai: Star Rail - Reinhard van Astrea when 5 layers Acheron

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Alright. Time for random ass proposals

Aribter Generals like Jing Yuan and Feixiao should get 2-A via summoning Lan's Lux Arrow

Irontomb should get Energy Projection for being able to shoot out a beam of energy

Incomplete Irontomb's "At its peak" should be renamed to Nigh Self Coronation because that's how Irontomb utilizes Khaslana's powers


This is incorrect. Irontomb doesn't ever reach its complete form in the fight. Complete form is meant to be Irontomb being self-coronated as Nous. It was Incomplete Irontomb trying to perform self-coronation. Therefore, this ability should be moved its incomplete key as well as any justifications regarding this fight.


This is on every single Emanator's profile. Aeon physiology page should gain this ability because they literally granted them their powers.

Acheron should get 5 layers of timestop because she is capable of timestopping Welt Yang, the latter possessing 4 layers of resistance to timestop.

Star of Eden > Naught justification should be removed because it being more dangerous doesn't equate to it being stronger. Acheron also just said that to calm Welt down by downplaying her sword's strength and pretended it's nothing against a literal black hole he uses as a cane because he was uncomfortable with Acheron knowing everything about the express while they knew nothing about her. When Welt actually found out how strong her and her sword's strength is, he proceeds to call it terrifying.

Now time for Welt jobbing scaling.

So, the Astral Express including Welt is incapable of killing the Ebon Deer due to its regeneration from the Ambrosial Arbor. Welt has no idea how to put down the deer and bypass its regeneration. Logically, this includes him possibly using Quasi Black Hole on the deer.


Welt in character used Quasi Blackhole on the Doomsday Beast so there shouldn't be that much doubt against his own statement of not knowing how to bypass the deer's regeneration including his black hole. The black hole is capable of reducing matter down to electrons and disintegrate them. I propose that anyone who utilizes the Ambrosial Arbor for regeneration gets a Full or Possibly High Regeneration rating as well as Type 3 and 8 Immortality.

Star of Eden Zeroth Power should also get Macro Quantum Deconstruction due to the reason above.
 
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Personally, just calling it "Self-Coronation" is better without the "nigh" due to being less wordy.


Would the regen affect Blade and Hoolay? Blade has Shuhu's flesh, so he technically should be comparable if not above the Ebon Deer, and the Loufo cannot find ways to slay Hoolay for many years. Narratively they should scale to its regen.
 
Would the regen affect Blade and Hoolay? Blade has Shuhu's flesh, so he technically should be comparable if not above the Ebon Deer, and the Loufo cannot find ways to slay Hoolay for many years. Narratively they should scale to its regen.
Is their regeneration comparable to the Ambrosial's regen
 
Is their regeneration comparable to the Ambrosial's regen
Given that the Arbor is a gift from Yaoshi, and Blade got his regen from Shuhu, who is an Emanator, you could make a case for him scaling

Not sure about Hoolay, but narratively, he is very infamous in Xianzhou, due to being unkillable; you could argue his regen should be above some random abundance abomination.

At the very least, they should get a 'Possibly" for High regen
 
Welt in character used Quasi Blackhole on the Doomsday Beast so there should be that much doubt against his own statement of not knowing how to bypass the deer's regeneration including his black hole.
OFC it's arguable if what he used against the Doomsday Beast was just Welt's Authority of Reason (which he still has) because he makes a '10000g' black hole with his Authority of Reason.

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Mark me down as agree with all other than possibly high regen, neutral with that. If others have grievances with Acheron stuff they can combat that.
 
I agree on everything, I just think the high regen should be applied to other high level Abundance Pathstriders.
 
OFC it's arguable if what he used against the Doomsday Beast was just Welt's Authority of Reason (which he still has) because he makes a '10000g' black hole with his Authority of Reason.

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Mark me down as agree with all other than possibly high regen, neutral with that. If others have grievances with Acheron stuff they can combat that.
My counter for this is that Welt in HSR only ever uses Star of Eden to fight and is only ever shown using Star of Eden in fights. It hasn't ever been shown of him using his Authority to make a blackhole and is only ever shown when asked about making a 4K Ultra HD Anime and an uncut 2h movie special

Even in the same cutscene where Doomsday Beast got obliterated by a black hole, his SOE is already shown glowing in his hand.
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Mark me down as agree with all other than possibly high regen, neutral with that. If others have grievances with Acheron stuff they can combat that.
I was told by @Mbpoops that it still functions like a real black hole and in the pic broskie is completely obliterated. Why is this not a full rating for High Regeneration
 
My counter for this is that Welt in HSR only ever uses Star of Eden to fight and is only ever shown using Star of Eden in fights. It hasn't ever been shown of him using his Authority to make a blackhole and is only ever shown when asked about making a 4K Ultra HD Anime and an uncut 2h movie special

Even in the same cutscene where Doomsday Beast got obliterated by a black hole, his SOE is already shown glowing in his hand.
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Wasn't this from breaching the Stellaron energy barrier put up by the berserking trailblazer?
Anyway I just want it clear that he doesn't even have to use the Star of Eden's 0th power here. Even the 1st power of the Star of Eden manipulates gravity just like Welt does in the manga panels.
 
OFC it's arguable if what he used against the Doomsday Beast was just Welt's Authority of Reason (which he still has) because he makes a '10000g' black hole with his Authority of Reason.

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Mark me down as agree with all other than possibly high regen, neutral with that. If others have grievances with Acheron stuff they can combat that.
Light shouldn't be absorbed at 10,000g of a blackhole of that size right? Could he be referring the borders of the blackhole having 10,000g? I dont know much about this kind of stuff so take it with a huge grain of salt.
 
This thread is fine
But you should also include that Star of Eden Zeroth Power should get Macro Quantum Deconstruction with its black holes cause Otto’s SoE glaze essentially indicates the original matter ceases to exist
Light shouldn't be absorbed at 10,000g of a blackhole of that size right? Could he be referring the borders of the blackhole having 10,000g? I dont know much about this kind of stuff so take it with a huge grain of salt.
It’s a goofy ah line but that black hole only is indexed Black hole creation. It’s not star of Eden so that blue one being legit ain’t relevant
 
How did i not see this

Everything else is fine i mostly disagree with the regen bit

Everything in this imgur post suggests that the deer can only heal because of the ambrosial arbor’s branches and once the arbor’s branches were destroyed it could be killed.

Actually it even clarifies the deer was killed but revived by the arbor so this is just type 8 immortality

You also still need proof that welt used zeroth or a black hole at all on the deer because march and the tb are also fighting it and they have means of killing it aswell, even just doing a of damage kills abundance characters like the mara struck beings

This would also go to any other arbor merchants like phantylia and evanescia
 
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Though if it gets accepted as just regen idm i just think type 8 immo fits better
 
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